improper stop at a red light
#1
improper stop at a red light
hey guys i need some help with this improper stop ticket well this happened around April or march and i got the court date set for the 7th of Dec.
anyways what happened was i wasn't speeding and i thought i cud make it through a yellow instead i jammed my brakes and my moms sienna doesnt really have the best brakes in the world. so i slid about 2 ft away from the thick white line and after light turned green, i get pulled. anyways its noted as contrary to HTA 144(5)
i dont think i would need a lawyer for this small case right or can i just make up an excuse, anyways whatever it may be i need a loophole or something that can get me out of this. can anyone help me out on this please
anyways what happened was i wasn't speeding and i thought i cud make it through a yellow instead i jammed my brakes and my moms sienna doesnt really have the best brakes in the world. so i slid about 2 ft away from the thick white line and after light turned green, i get pulled. anyways its noted as contrary to HTA 144(5)
i dont think i would need a lawyer for this small case right or can i just make up an excuse, anyways whatever it may be i need a loophole or something that can get me out of this. can anyone help me out on this please
#4
Ontario HTA, Section 144
Where to stop – intersection
(5) A driver who is directed by a traffic control signal erected at an intersection to stop his or her vehicle shall stop,
(a) at the sign or roadway marking indicating where the stop is to be made;
Where to stop – intersection
(5) A driver who is directed by a traffic control signal erected at an intersection to stop his or her vehicle shall stop,
(a) at the sign or roadway marking indicating where the stop is to be made;
But there are no loopholes. Any claim you make about the condition of the vehicles brakes will only show that you were traveling too fast to be able to safely stop the vehicle when required. The crown will be very quick to point that out, if you bring it up.
Did you get disclosure? What's in the officers notes? Does he have all the facts correct?
#5
There's not much room for interpretation here. If you take this to trial, it comes down to your word vs. the officer. It's possible that, at trial, the officer or crown attorney will make mistakes surrounding the circumstances, which will call their credibility into question.
But there are no loopholes. Any claim you make about the condition of the vehicles brakes will only show that you were traveling too fast to be able to safely stop the vehicle when required. The crown will be very quick to point that out, if you bring it up.
Did you get disclosure? What's in the officers notes? Does he have all the facts correct?
But there are no loopholes. Any claim you make about the condition of the vehicles brakes will only show that you were traveling too fast to be able to safely stop the vehicle when required. The crown will be very quick to point that out, if you bring it up.
Did you get disclosure? What's in the officers notes? Does he have all the facts correct?
#6
Full disclosure is the notes of what the officer wrote down at the time of the incident. They are the notes that the prosecutor will rely on to argue against you. You just have to go to the court and request it for your case. As for your excuse... what??? Assuming you have time go to the court today and request full disclosure they will photo copy it for you, then come back on here and post what the notes say then someone can tell you how to argue your case. I cant really think of any excuse to use cause the HTA rule is pretty clear... you were over the line.
#7
if it really happened the way that you said it happened then there is no point in fighting it... if your over the line then in their eyes you made a bad judgement and didnt stop in time... had the same problem a few years back and talked to my buddy who is a driving instructor... cant do much....
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