Re: XG350 hesitation
I agree with the previous post 100%. I've had my 2002 XG350 into the
dealer so many times for this problem that they have given up. It seems that either the Mass Airfow Sensor, or the Traction Control System, or even the Power Control Module is to blame. I get the impression that this is a design flaw that is not fixable. Hyundai denies that this problem even exists. Unless a large group of XG350 owners take on Hyundai with some sort of class action suit, this will never be resolved. There are not enough XG350's out there for Hyundai to spend the resources needed to solve the problem. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
I agree with the previous post 100%. I've had my 2002 XG350 into the
dealer so many times for this problem that they have given up. It seems that either the Mass Airfow Sensor, or the Traction Control System, or even the Power Control Module is to blame. I get the impression that this is a design flaw that is not fixable. Hyundai denies that this problem even exists. Unless a large group of XG350 owners take on Hyundai with some sort of class action suit, this will never be resolved. There are not enough XG350's out there for Hyundai to spend the resources needed to solve the problem. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
I agree with the previous post 100%. I've had my 2002 XG350 into the
dealer so many times for this problem that they have given up. It seems that either the Mass Airfow Sensor, or the Traction Control System, or even the Power Control Module is to blame. I get the impression that this is a design flaw that is not fixable. Hyundai denies that this problem even exists. Unless a large group of XG350 owners take on Hyundai with some sort of class action suit, this will never be resolved. There are not enough XG350's out there for Hyundai to spend the resources needed to solve the problem. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law)
for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side regarding this Hyundai defect. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law)
for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side regarding this Hyundai defect. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law)
for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side regarding this Hyundai defect. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law) > for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side > regarding this Hyundai defect. Yep, that's always a good solution. Makes the lawyers richer, you poorer and Hyundai could care less. Matt |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law) > for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side > regarding this Hyundai defect. Yep, that's always a good solution. Makes the lawyers richer, you poorer and Hyundai could care less. Matt |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> The only thing to do is sue. I have had a lawsuit going (lemon law) > for years now. Even if I lose I have been a thorn in Hyundais side > regarding this Hyundai defect. Yep, that's always a good solution. Makes the lawyers richer, you poorer and Hyundai could care less. Matt |
Re: XG350 hesitation
And what would you suggest I do Matt?
After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into discussion directly with Hyundai. Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. After months of patience I contacted an attorney. Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your immeasurable wisdom. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
And what would you suggest I do Matt?
After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into discussion directly with Hyundai. Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. After months of patience I contacted an attorney. Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your immeasurable wisdom. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
And what would you suggest I do Matt?
After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into discussion directly with Hyundai. Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. After months of patience I contacted an attorney. Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your immeasurable wisdom. |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> And what would you suggest I do Matt? > > After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into > discussion directly with Hyundai. > > Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They > said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do > so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many > attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They > refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite > repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. > > After months of patience I contacted an attorney. > > Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your > immeasurable wisdom. Well, having been involved with one lawsuit in my life (and it'll be my last), I can tell you that you will be better off trading the vehicle back to the dealer for one that you like better. Or trade for a different brand. Sure, you'll lose a little on the trade, but I'll bet you'll lose a lot less than what you'll spend on legal fees. I sued, in small claims court, a repair shop who botched a ring and pinion swap on my 4x4. I sued them for about $1500. They came to court with a lawyer and I didn't (not supposed to need one in small claims court, right?). I still won a small judgement of $300, basically, what it cost to get it fixed correctly by a Chevy dealer, but I didn't get back anything that I'd paid the original shop (They quoted me $1000 for the job and then charged me $2000). However, what happened next shows you how the legal system and lawyers work. The repair shop owner and his lawyer were livid that they lost against a lowly citizen. So, they went to the Chevy garage and talked to their mechanic. I'd written in my statement that in addition to making loads of noise and running very hot, the rear differential had a slight oil leak (which it did). When they asked the Chevy mechanic about the leak, he said he didn't remember seeing a leak and by then the vehicle had been repaired, including a new pinion seal, so there was no evidence of a leak. This was totally unrelated to the essence of the claim, but the lawyer went back to the small claims justice, said I'd lied in my statement, and convined the justive to file perjury charges against me! This is a fairly serious offense which can bring jail time. The lawyer knew full well I hadn't lied, but she also knew that I'd now HAVE to hire a lawyer to defend myself in county court against this charge. I ended up spending $3000 to get the perjury charge dismissed. You do the math. Tell me who won... Don't believe me though, forge ahead with your lawsuit, but let us know at the end what the final accounting is. :-) In my opinion, the best thing to do in a case like this is what I did when Honda screwed me over on an Accord 22 years ago. Never buy another product from the company, and tell everyone you come across about your experience. If Honda had treated me right, I'd have purchased at least four more new Honda's in the intervening two decades. And I know that I've personally convince at least two other people to not buy a Honda. That has cost Honda more than any suit I could have filed and has cost me virtually nothing. Matt |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> And what would you suggest I do Matt? > > After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into > discussion directly with Hyundai. > > Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They > said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do > so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many > attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They > refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite > repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. > > After months of patience I contacted an attorney. > > Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your > immeasurable wisdom. Well, having been involved with one lawsuit in my life (and it'll be my last), I can tell you that you will be better off trading the vehicle back to the dealer for one that you like better. Or trade for a different brand. Sure, you'll lose a little on the trade, but I'll bet you'll lose a lot less than what you'll spend on legal fees. I sued, in small claims court, a repair shop who botched a ring and pinion swap on my 4x4. I sued them for about $1500. They came to court with a lawyer and I didn't (not supposed to need one in small claims court, right?). I still won a small judgement of $300, basically, what it cost to get it fixed correctly by a Chevy dealer, but I didn't get back anything that I'd paid the original shop (They quoted me $1000 for the job and then charged me $2000). However, what happened next shows you how the legal system and lawyers work. The repair shop owner and his lawyer were livid that they lost against a lowly citizen. So, they went to the Chevy garage and talked to their mechanic. I'd written in my statement that in addition to making loads of noise and running very hot, the rear differential had a slight oil leak (which it did). When they asked the Chevy mechanic about the leak, he said he didn't remember seeing a leak and by then the vehicle had been repaired, including a new pinion seal, so there was no evidence of a leak. This was totally unrelated to the essence of the claim, but the lawyer went back to the small claims justice, said I'd lied in my statement, and convined the justive to file perjury charges against me! This is a fairly serious offense which can bring jail time. The lawyer knew full well I hadn't lied, but she also knew that I'd now HAVE to hire a lawyer to defend myself in county court against this charge. I ended up spending $3000 to get the perjury charge dismissed. You do the math. Tell me who won... Don't believe me though, forge ahead with your lawsuit, but let us know at the end what the final accounting is. :-) In my opinion, the best thing to do in a case like this is what I did when Honda screwed me over on an Accord 22 years ago. Never buy another product from the company, and tell everyone you come across about your experience. If Honda had treated me right, I'd have purchased at least four more new Honda's in the intervening two decades. And I know that I've personally convince at least two other people to not buy a Honda. That has cost Honda more than any suit I could have filed and has cost me virtually nothing. Matt |
Re: XG350 hesitation
kr wrote:
> And what would you suggest I do Matt? > > After repeated attempts by Hyundai to fix my car I entered into > discussion directly with Hyundai. > > Hyundai asked what I wanted. I told them I wanted my car fixed. They > said they would continue to try to fix it for as long as it took to do > so. I asked how long was acceptable? Weeks? Months? Years? How many > attempts? 3? 5? 10? 100? They would not make any promises. They > refused to replace the car with another or return my money despite > repeated repair attempts with no results and the problem still there. > > After months of patience I contacted an attorney. > > Tell me oh wise one what you would do so that I may gain from your > immeasurable wisdom. Well, having been involved with one lawsuit in my life (and it'll be my last), I can tell you that you will be better off trading the vehicle back to the dealer for one that you like better. Or trade for a different brand. Sure, you'll lose a little on the trade, but I'll bet you'll lose a lot less than what you'll spend on legal fees. I sued, in small claims court, a repair shop who botched a ring and pinion swap on my 4x4. I sued them for about $1500. They came to court with a lawyer and I didn't (not supposed to need one in small claims court, right?). I still won a small judgement of $300, basically, what it cost to get it fixed correctly by a Chevy dealer, but I didn't get back anything that I'd paid the original shop (They quoted me $1000 for the job and then charged me $2000). However, what happened next shows you how the legal system and lawyers work. The repair shop owner and his lawyer were livid that they lost against a lowly citizen. So, they went to the Chevy garage and talked to their mechanic. I'd written in my statement that in addition to making loads of noise and running very hot, the rear differential had a slight oil leak (which it did). When they asked the Chevy mechanic about the leak, he said he didn't remember seeing a leak and by then the vehicle had been repaired, including a new pinion seal, so there was no evidence of a leak. This was totally unrelated to the essence of the claim, but the lawyer went back to the small claims justice, said I'd lied in my statement, and convined the justive to file perjury charges against me! This is a fairly serious offense which can bring jail time. The lawyer knew full well I hadn't lied, but she also knew that I'd now HAVE to hire a lawyer to defend myself in county court against this charge. I ended up spending $3000 to get the perjury charge dismissed. You do the math. Tell me who won... Don't believe me though, forge ahead with your lawsuit, but let us know at the end what the final accounting is. :-) In my opinion, the best thing to do in a case like this is what I did when Honda screwed me over on an Accord 22 years ago. Never buy another product from the company, and tell everyone you come across about your experience. If Honda had treated me right, I'd have purchased at least four more new Honda's in the intervening two decades. And I know that I've personally convince at least two other people to not buy a Honda. That has cost Honda more than any suit I could have filed and has cost me virtually nothing. Matt |
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