jmh_ottawa

Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and while i have had my
share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another hyundai.

The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for towing but i'm put
off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for the santa fe ?? It
certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.

Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
Horsepower 200@6,000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
Towing Rating 3500 lbs

Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
Horsepower 242@6000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs

Michael

"jmh_ottawa" <john@minasu.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and
> while i have had my
> share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another
> hyundai.
>
> The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for
> towing but i'm put
> off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for
> the santa fe ?? It
> certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.

Afaik the Santa Fe is built on a Sonata frame , the SF
will have a lesser Towing Rating than the Snotty because
it weighs more, for every pound on the same chassis the
LESS it can tow. towing 'guts' (HP, Torque ) have very
little to do with towing ,weight, chassis 'guts' ,
wheelbase, braking, rim and tire stats are what are
important to how it 'tows' .............

Personally if I were wanting to tow I would buy the 'tool'
that fits the job but then as far as I am concerned ALL
simply usless vehicles built on a CAR frame are
rediculous...............(if you put 4 adults and a lot of
luggage in them they are 'overloaded' ) ymmv.

Good luck

>
> Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
> Horsepower 200@6,000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
> Towing Rating 3500 lbs
>
> Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
> Horsepower 242@6000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
> Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs
>
>

Eric G.

"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in news:coAzi.4814$Wr3.1689@trndny03:

> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>
Well, I am on my 7th now, so I would have to say yes. I still have the two
newest, but another 3 are still running in the family. And, well, let's
just say that the first two were problematic but nothing too serious.

My 7th, an Entourage, just saved my family's life in a fight with a tractor
trailer.

P.S. - I just got the Entourage back from the repairs from that fight. It
came out great and I am very satisfied. I also got my $500 deductible back
(actually I got the check a few days before I even had to pay it), and the
truckers insurance paid for my car rental after all.

Eric

razz

No. Never again. Poor customer relations, crap product.
"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>

Oleg Lego

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:44:04 -0600, Oleg Lego posted:

>On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:43:52 GMT, desgnr posted:
>
>>Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>I would. This year we just bought our second one.

After reading some of the other responses, I remembered that my wife
had two previous models. I don't remember the model of the first one,
but the second was, I think, a Stellar. So, the Sonata we bought this
year makes it the fourth one.

jmh_ottawa

It's always a toss up between multiple uses.. commuting vrs towing. I know
a few people who tow with escapes, and other small to mid size suvs.
Granted they aren't going to pull 5000lbs but then if that was what was
being towed you're right a purpose built vehicle is required.

After seeing the specs of vehicles like the escape and dodge nitro.. both
with 3500lbs ratings i'd edge towards them as a next vehicle simple
because the santa fe isn't quite in the same playing field.

Thanks for your input though as it makes perfect sense.. even if for 90%
of my use towing isn't a requirement.

Edwin Pawlowski

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle. If
> they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
> amazing car.

Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more. One of us
has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint though.

Matt Whiting

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle. If
>> they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
>> amazing car.
>
> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more. One of us
> has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint though.

I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference
is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai
hasn't a clue.

Matt

Darby OGill

> NO !


YES!

James

On Aug 24, 5:43 am, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

2006 Tucson. Have not had to take it back to dealer for any service
except for a factory recall to replace the passenger airbag. The
little SUV has been perfect and trouble-free. Really good value for
the money so far.

Eric G.

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:6BMzi.95$q22.5774@news1.epix.net:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.
>>> If they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would
>>> be an amazing car.
>>
>> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more.
>> One of us has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint
>> though.
>
> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
> the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
> standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the
> difference is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right
> and Hyundai hasn't a clue.
>
> Matt

Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
for me. Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
when I am still stunned by it. I can't imagine how you engage the
clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
start.

And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
Matt.

Eric

Edwin Pawlowski

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with the
> two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with standard
> shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference is night
> and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai hasn't a
> clue.
>
> Matt

I have auto. I've either gotten used to it or it smoothed out over time.
It was a PITA the first month or so. Going from one car to another does not
seem to make much difference though. I may have mention it before, but the
wife of a guy at work got rid of her 06 LX after six months solely because
of the throttle.

No doubt the BMW is much better. I've not driven one for a while but
performance was better than the Sonata, but the price tag was much different
also.

Matt Whiting

Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:6BMzi.95$q22.5774@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>>>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>>>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.
>>>> If they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would
>>>> be an amazing car.
>>> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more.
>>> One of us has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint
>>> though.
>> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
>> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
>> the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
>> standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the
>> difference is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right
>> and Hyundai hasn't a clue.
>>
>> Matt
>
> Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
> for me. Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
> especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
> when I am still stunned by it. I can't imagine how you engage the
> clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
> start.

I've gotten fairly good at starting out, unless there is a lot of noise
around like a large truck or Harley sitting beside me. Neither the
clutch nor the throttle gives any tactile feedback, unlike every other
standard shift car or truck I've driven. So, without aural feedback, it
is easy to either stall the engine or race it to 2,000 RPM when starting
out.

Actually, the most troublesome area for me is still the 1-2 shift. I
rarely get that done smoothly. 2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 aren't bad now.


> And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
> the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
> Matt.

I've never driven a stick shift Honda so I have no basis for comparison.
Of all the cars I've driven, the BMW is the best. For trucks, my
current Chevy K1500 with the MT8 transmission is the best.

Matt

']['unez

Yes I would, I have 3 a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson love
them all

']['unez

--
" Never hold your farts in "
they go straight up your spine
and into your brain and that's
where shitty ideas come from "



"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

PMDR

On Aug 24, 8:43 am, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

I've had my Sonata for 14 months now and I have recommended it to
other people. It's a great deal for the money.

For an even better deal, look at used instead of new.