timing belt or timing chain?
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> Don wrote: "And then there is my Fort Taurus SHO. Timing belt placement is
> such that one the case is opened it is better to replace water pump, front
> seal, Crank sensor and a host of other stuff as the labor charge is
> monumental. Lucky it's a non-interference engine."......
>
> Actually, that is true with many vehicles, particularly the water pump.
> That is often used as the tensioner for the belt, making it something
> replaceable when you replace the belt with virtually no additional labor.
>
> But those who said timing belts are cheap need to price out some of them.
> The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper than $110 (that I can find).
> That is just the part - with labor, I have one quote for $450, and I have a
> hunch it won't get much cheaper. That is not chump change to me.
>
> Green Valley Giant
I was quoted $225 Canadian at the Oakville Hyundai dealership?
Chris
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> Don wrote: "And then there is my Fort Taurus SHO. Timing belt placement is
> such that one the case is opened it is better to replace water pump, front
> seal, Crank sensor and a host of other stuff as the labor charge is
> monumental. Lucky it's a non-interference engine."......
>
> Actually, that is true with many vehicles, particularly the water pump.
> That is often used as the tensioner for the belt, making it something
> replaceable when you replace the belt with virtually no additional labor.
>
> But those who said timing belts are cheap need to price out some of them.
> The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper than $110 (that I can find).
> That is just the part - with labor, I have one quote for $450, and I have a
> hunch it won't get much cheaper. That is not chump change to me.
>
> Green Valley Giant
I was quoted $225 Canadian at the Oakville Hyundai dealership?
Chris
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
>
True, but timing chains seldom require replacement.
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
>
True, but timing chains seldom require replacement.
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Don wrote:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.
Matt
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.
Matt
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Don wrote:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.
Matt
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.
Matt
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
hyundaitech wrote:
> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>
I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!
Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.
Matt
> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>
I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!
Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.
Matt
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
hyundaitech wrote:
> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>
I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!
Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.
Matt
> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>
I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!
Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.
Matt
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
I have an '03 Santa Fe. I must say I love the car and have had no trouble
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.
I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
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Paul
"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.
I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
--
Paul
"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>
#43
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Re: timing belt or timing chain?
I have an '03 Santa Fe. I must say I love the car and have had no trouble
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.
I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
--
Paul
"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.
I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
--
Paul
"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
newsJhyf.13$Tc.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>
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