New Elantra First Oil Change
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Re: New Elantra First Oil Change
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Brian Nystrom wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I guess I must be better at math than you, as I don't find
>>> calculating 7500 mile intervals to be a challenge. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Not a math issue, but a memory issue. If you tell me that my odometer
>> has 67,000 miles on it, I can tell you within a second that I'm due
>> for a change in 3,000 miles. You can't do that with 7,500 mile
>> intervals. Since they alternate 2,500 and 7,500 multiples in between
>> the 15,000 mile multiples, you have to go back to the nearest 15,000
>> mile multiple (60,000 in this case) and then add 7,500 miles to get
>> 67,500 and then subtract to get that you are 500 miles from you next
>> change. It is just a lot easier to use 5,000 or 10,000. :-)
>
>
> Funny, I have no trouble remembering what my next change interval is. If
> I ever do have a question, I can always look in the maintenance log.
I didn't have a problem when I had just one vehicle, but now with 4, and
being well over 40, it isn't as easy. :-)
>>> Fine, but changing at 5K is still more frequently than necesary.
>
>
>> So is changing at 7,500. :-) It is just a matter of where you choose
>> to draw the line. There folks that do oil analysis that run routinely
>> past 10,000 miles on dino oil and much longer on synthetic.
>
>
> The 7500 mile interval is require under the warranty. If you don't care
> about the warranty, you can change it at whatever interval you like.
>
>>> As I've said above, the "severe service" is a bunch of nonsense that
>>> can be ignored if you drive like most people do. Virtually everyone
>>> falls into one or the other of the categories they list. I can tell
>>> you from experience that if you follow Hyundai's standard schedule,
>>> that's all they care about unless there is obvious evidence that your
>>> vehicle has been abused. No one is ever going to deny a warranty
>>> claim because you drive on dirt roads occasionally, drive in stop and
>>> go traffic at times or any of the other items listed in the severe
>>> service list of sins.
>
>
>> That is your opinion, but not the opinion of virtually every car maker
>> in the world.
>
>
> Please show me the survey of "virtually every car maker in the world"
> that shows that they ever actually deny claims based on the their
> "severe service" requirements. The reality is that it simply doesn't
> happen except in the more egregious, obvious cases of abuse. As I said
> above, there is no way for a company to know how you drive your car
> unless there are obvious signs of abuse. Additionally, under warranty
> law, it's up to the company to prove that you violated the warranty
> provisions, not up to you to prove that you didn't.
I didn't say they deny warranty repairs, I said that this is their
opinion as evidenced by the fact that nearly every owner's and service
manual that I own has two maintenance schedules.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Brian Nystrom wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I guess I must be better at math than you, as I don't find
>>> calculating 7500 mile intervals to be a challenge. ;-)
>>
>>
>> Not a math issue, but a memory issue. If you tell me that my odometer
>> has 67,000 miles on it, I can tell you within a second that I'm due
>> for a change in 3,000 miles. You can't do that with 7,500 mile
>> intervals. Since they alternate 2,500 and 7,500 multiples in between
>> the 15,000 mile multiples, you have to go back to the nearest 15,000
>> mile multiple (60,000 in this case) and then add 7,500 miles to get
>> 67,500 and then subtract to get that you are 500 miles from you next
>> change. It is just a lot easier to use 5,000 or 10,000. :-)
>
>
> Funny, I have no trouble remembering what my next change interval is. If
> I ever do have a question, I can always look in the maintenance log.
I didn't have a problem when I had just one vehicle, but now with 4, and
being well over 40, it isn't as easy. :-)
>>> Fine, but changing at 5K is still more frequently than necesary.
>
>
>> So is changing at 7,500. :-) It is just a matter of where you choose
>> to draw the line. There folks that do oil analysis that run routinely
>> past 10,000 miles on dino oil and much longer on synthetic.
>
>
> The 7500 mile interval is require under the warranty. If you don't care
> about the warranty, you can change it at whatever interval you like.
>
>>> As I've said above, the "severe service" is a bunch of nonsense that
>>> can be ignored if you drive like most people do. Virtually everyone
>>> falls into one or the other of the categories they list. I can tell
>>> you from experience that if you follow Hyundai's standard schedule,
>>> that's all they care about unless there is obvious evidence that your
>>> vehicle has been abused. No one is ever going to deny a warranty
>>> claim because you drive on dirt roads occasionally, drive in stop and
>>> go traffic at times or any of the other items listed in the severe
>>> service list of sins.
>
>
>> That is your opinion, but not the opinion of virtually every car maker
>> in the world.
>
>
> Please show me the survey of "virtually every car maker in the world"
> that shows that they ever actually deny claims based on the their
> "severe service" requirements. The reality is that it simply doesn't
> happen except in the more egregious, obvious cases of abuse. As I said
> above, there is no way for a company to know how you drive your car
> unless there are obvious signs of abuse. Additionally, under warranty
> law, it's up to the company to prove that you violated the warranty
> provisions, not up to you to prove that you didn't.
I didn't say they deny warranty repairs, I said that this is their
opinion as evidenced by the fact that nearly every owner's and service
manual that I own has two maintenance schedules.
Matt
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