How to up MILEAGE ON HYUNDAI???
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Re: How to up MILEAGE ON HYUNDAI???
news group <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> computer updates?? Help !!!
Accelerate slower, and use your momentum effectively (e.g., don't
accelerate into a stop light).
My boss increased the size of his air intake on his jeep and got much
better mileage at no cost. I don't know if the same can be done on an
Elantra. I'll leave the technical stuff to the gearheads here.
Moshe
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> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> computer updates?? Help !!!
Accelerate slower, and use your momentum effectively (e.g., don't
accelerate into a stop light).
My boss increased the size of his air intake on his jeep and got much
better mileage at no cost. I don't know if the same can be done on an
Elantra. I'll leave the technical stuff to the gearheads here.
Moshe
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Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to fly
out of it within 2 years anyway.
"news group" <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> computer updates?? Help !!!
>
>
out of it within 2 years anyway.
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> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> computer updates?? Help !!!
>
>
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That transmission happens to have a 100K warranty, so don't look for
it to do any flying for a few years.
"Terry & Patricia Swinamer" <tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to
fly
> out of it within 2 years anyway.
> "news group" <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2gkcq4F3rdugU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> > computer updates?? Help !!!
> >
> >
>
>
it to do any flying for a few years.
"Terry & Patricia Swinamer" <tpswinamer@bwr.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
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> Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to
fly
> out of it within 2 years anyway.
> "news group" <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2gkcq4F3rdugU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
> > computer updates?? Help !!!
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: How to up MILEAGE ON HYUNDAI???
On 14 May 2004 13:24:26 -0400, Moshe Jacobson <bramoshe@runslinux.net>
wrote:
>news group <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
>> computer updates?? Help !!!
>
>Accelerate slower, and use your momentum effectively (e.g., don't
>accelerate into a stop light).
>
>My boss increased the size of his air intake on his jeep and got much
>better mileage at no cost. I don't know if the same can be done on an
>Elantra. I'll leave the technical stuff to the gearheads here.
>
>Moshe
Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
more power as well.
wrote:
>news group <jmucha@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Any sugg on getting better mileage. 2003 ELANTRA . Spec . tuning ??
>> computer updates?? Help !!!
>
>Accelerate slower, and use your momentum effectively (e.g., don't
>accelerate into a stop light).
>
>My boss increased the size of his air intake on his jeep and got much
>better mileage at no cost. I don't know if the same can be done on an
>Elantra. I'll leave the technical stuff to the gearheads here.
>
>Moshe
Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
more power as well.
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Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
> Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
> Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
> more power as well.
Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
I'm curious.
Moshe
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> Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
> Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
> more power as well.
Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
I'm curious.
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On 17 May 2004 08:50:47 -0400, Moshe Jacobson <bramoshe@runslinux.net>
wrote:
>Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>> Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
>> Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
>> more power as well.
>>=================
>
>Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
>I'm curious.
>
>Moshe
>==================
Perhaps it is something to do with pollution certification?
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>Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>> Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
>> Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
>> more power as well.
>>=================
>
>Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
>I'm curious.
>
>Moshe
>==================
Perhaps it is something to do with pollution certification?
S25
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Re: How to up mileage on Hyundai???
Moshe Jacobson wrote:
> Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>
>>Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
>>Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
>>more power as well.
>
>
> Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
> I'm curious.
Less restrictive intake and exhaust systems are noisier, though not
necessarily to an objectionable level. If you go to
www.elantragtclub.com, there are DIY instructions for intake and exhaust
modifications and numerous discussions on these subjects in their
forums. Another good site is www.elantraxd.com.
I've removed the intake resonator on my car (easy, no cost, no added
noise that I notice) and will probably replace the stock intake with a
cold air intake system (aka, a "CAI") eventually, once I decide which
system to go with.
The rear muffler is known for being restrictive, so that will soon be
replaced with a Magnaflow. Again, you can do this without adding a lot
of noise if you select a muffler of similar size and configuration.
Magnaflow has information on this in the FAQ section of their web site
(www.magnaflow.com).
A change to synthetic oil in the engine (0W-30 or 5W-30) and
transmission (if you have a manual trans) should help some. I'll be
doing both once my engine is broken in a bit more (at ~6000 miles).
Still, as another poster mentioned, driving style makes the most
difference. If your car has a trip computer, use the MPG readout to help
you learn the effects of various driving techniques.
Despite the fact that my car is still new and breaking in, I'm getting
32+ mpg on the highway and ~27 in the city, with an average of 29-31
combined.
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Terry & Patricia Swinamer wrote:
> Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to fly
> out of it within 2 years anyway.
What kind of BS answer is that? FYI, Hyundai is now rated the SAME as
Toyota in initial quality by JD Power and they're both just one point
behind Honda. Hyundai is a company that takes quality, customer service
and customer satisfaction extremely seriously.
Besides, why would anyone want to pay thousands more for a comparable
Toyota or Honda? A good car is a good car, regardless of the name on it.
> Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to fly
> out of it within 2 years anyway.
What kind of BS answer is that? FYI, Hyundai is now rated the SAME as
Toyota in initial quality by JD Power and they're both just one point
behind Honda. Hyundai is a company that takes quality, customer service
and customer satisfaction extremely seriously.
Besides, why would anyone want to pay thousands more for a comparable
Toyota or Honda? A good car is a good car, regardless of the name on it.
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"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
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> Terry & Patricia Swinamer wrote:
>
> > Trade it for a Honda or Toyota.Chances are the transmission is going to
fly
> > out of it within 2 years anyway.
>
> What kind of BS answer is that? FYI, Hyundai is now rated the SAME as
> Toyota in initial quality by JD Power and they're both just one point
> behind Honda. Hyundai is a company that takes quality, customer service
> and customer satisfaction extremely seriously.
>
> Besides, why would anyone want to pay thousands more for a comparable
> Toyota or Honda? A good car is a good car, regardless of the name on it.
>
Here is a another BS.
Wow, there must be two Hyundai company's.
My Hyundai company is not responding to ridiculous full consumption of
1 to 8 -10 liters/km, from my Getz, gives no answer's regarding to the lies
published in there brochures. Unfortunately the name on my POS is Hyundai,
my first and for sure my last, next time I by a Car.
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Pinokkio wrote:
> Here is a another BS.
> Wow, there must be two Hyundai company's.
> My Hyundai company is not responding to ridiculous full consumption of
> 1 to 8 -10 liters/km, from my Getz, gives no answer's regarding to the lies
> published in there brochures. Unfortunately the name on my POS is Hyundai,
> my first and for sure my last, next time I by a Car.
Gee, do you think your nasty attitude might have something to do with
it. I'd like to hear the story from their side.
> Here is a another BS.
> Wow, there must be two Hyundai company's.
> My Hyundai company is not responding to ridiculous full consumption of
> 1 to 8 -10 liters/km, from my Getz, gives no answer's regarding to the lies
> published in there brochures. Unfortunately the name on my POS is Hyundai,
> my first and for sure my last, next time I by a Car.
Gee, do you think your nasty attitude might have something to do with
it. I'd like to hear the story from their side.
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Re: How to up mileage on Hyundai???
Not trying to start a war here. All Im going on is the experience Ive had
with my 2002 Elantra. Its been bad from the get go. Hyundai Canada is not
taking me seriously, or the cars quality, I can assure you that. Maybe I got
a bad one, but its been in the shop more than out. When I hear about them
fudging the gas milage ratings and ignoring problems like the 2-3 upshift
flare, it makes me angry. The car is beautiful, and Hyundais reputation has
improved greatly, but until they FIX actual problems rather than explaining
them as normal operation, they wont move ahead. Its an excellent warranty
also. I needed mine. Over and over again. Now that its expired, Im living in
fear of the next big problem.This is whats been replaced on my 2002 Elantra
so far:
Both ball joints
transmission, engine seal, window tapes, seat, power window motors (4)
rotors, tires(twice) a defective air bag went on its own.tie rod ends
alternator and a oxygen sensor. All under 100,000K. Can you blame me? Canada
has no lemon laws.
Terry
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> Moshe Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
> >>Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
> >>more power as well.
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
> > I'm curious.
>
> Less restrictive intake and exhaust systems are noisier, though not
> necessarily to an objectionable level. If you go to
> www.elantragtclub.com, there are DIY instructions for intake and exhaust
> modifications and numerous discussions on these subjects in their
> forums. Another good site is www.elantraxd.com.
>
> I've removed the intake resonator on my car (easy, no cost, no added
> noise that I notice) and will probably replace the stock intake with a
> cold air intake system (aka, a "CAI") eventually, once I decide which
> system to go with.
>
> The rear muffler is known for being restrictive, so that will soon be
> replaced with a Magnaflow. Again, you can do this without adding a lot
> of noise if you select a muffler of similar size and configuration.
> Magnaflow has information on this in the FAQ section of their web site
> (www.magnaflow.com).
>
> A change to synthetic oil in the engine (0W-30 or 5W-30) and
> transmission (if you have a manual trans) should help some. I'll be
> doing both once my engine is broken in a bit more (at ~6000 miles).
>
> Still, as another poster mentioned, driving style makes the most
> difference. If your car has a trip computer, use the MPG readout to help
> you learn the effects of various driving techniques.
>
> Despite the fact that my car is still new and breaking in, I'm getting
> 32+ mpg on the highway and ~27 in the city, with an average of 29-31
> combined.
>
with my 2002 Elantra. Its been bad from the get go. Hyundai Canada is not
taking me seriously, or the cars quality, I can assure you that. Maybe I got
a bad one, but its been in the shop more than out. When I hear about them
fudging the gas milage ratings and ignoring problems like the 2-3 upshift
flare, it makes me angry. The car is beautiful, and Hyundais reputation has
improved greatly, but until they FIX actual problems rather than explaining
them as normal operation, they wont move ahead. Its an excellent warranty
also. I needed mine. Over and over again. Now that its expired, Im living in
fear of the next big problem.This is whats been replaced on my 2002 Elantra
so far:
Both ball joints
transmission, engine seal, window tapes, seat, power window motors (4)
rotors, tires(twice) a defective air bag went on its own.tie rod ends
alternator and a oxygen sensor. All under 100,000K. Can you blame me? Canada
has no lemon laws.
Terry
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
news:UY4qc.15769$hH.389068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>
> Moshe Jacobson wrote:
>
> > Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
> >>Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
> >>more power as well.
> >
> >
> > Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
> > I'm curious.
>
> Less restrictive intake and exhaust systems are noisier, though not
> necessarily to an objectionable level. If you go to
> www.elantragtclub.com, there are DIY instructions for intake and exhaust
> modifications and numerous discussions on these subjects in their
> forums. Another good site is www.elantraxd.com.
>
> I've removed the intake resonator on my car (easy, no cost, no added
> noise that I notice) and will probably replace the stock intake with a
> cold air intake system (aka, a "CAI") eventually, once I decide which
> system to go with.
>
> The rear muffler is known for being restrictive, so that will soon be
> replaced with a Magnaflow. Again, you can do this without adding a lot
> of noise if you select a muffler of similar size and configuration.
> Magnaflow has information on this in the FAQ section of their web site
> (www.magnaflow.com).
>
> A change to synthetic oil in the engine (0W-30 or 5W-30) and
> transmission (if you have a manual trans) should help some. I'll be
> doing both once my engine is broken in a bit more (at ~6000 miles).
>
> Still, as another poster mentioned, driving style makes the most
> difference. If your car has a trip computer, use the MPG readout to help
> you learn the effects of various driving techniques.
>
> Despite the fact that my car is still new and breaking in, I'm getting
> 32+ mpg on the highway and ~27 in the city, with an average of 29-31
> combined.
>
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Re: How to up MILEAGE ON HYUNDAI???
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Pinokkio wrote:
>
>> Here is a another BS.
>> Wow, there must be two Hyundai company's.
>> My Hyundai company is not responding to ridiculous full consumption of
>> 1 to 8 -10 liters/km, from my Getz, gives no answer's regarding to the
>> lies
>> published in there brochures. Unfortunately the name on my POS is
>> Hyundai,
>> my first and for sure my last, next time I by a Car.
>
>
> Gee, do you think your nasty attitude might have something to do with
> it. I'd like to hear the story from their side.
>
====
Pinokkio must mean 8-10 liters/100Km -- I don't believe that an engine
with that displacement could pump 8 liters of gas through in one km --
it would flood out almost immediately.
Harry
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Terry,
That's just unbelievable -- no, really...
Tires replaced twice under warranty??? No way... My U.S dealer just
laughed at me when I asked for a tire replacement!
Harry
============
Terry & Patricia Swinamer wrote:
> Not trying to start a war here. All Im going on is the experience Ive had
> with my 2002 Elantra. Its been bad from the get go. Hyundai Canada is not
> taking me seriously, or the cars quality, I can assure you that. Maybe I got
> a bad one, but its been in the shop more than out. When I hear about them
> fudging the gas milage ratings and ignoring problems like the 2-3 upshift
> flare, it makes me angry. The car is beautiful, and Hyundais reputation has
> improved greatly, but until they FIX actual problems rather than explaining
> them as normal operation, they wont move ahead. Its an excellent warranty
> also. I needed mine. Over and over again. Now that its expired, Im living in
> fear of the next big problem.This is whats been replaced on my 2002 Elantra
> so far:
> Both ball joints
> transmission, engine seal, window tapes, seat, power window motors (4)
> rotors, tires(twice) a defective air bag went on its own.tie rod ends
> alternator and a oxygen sensor. All under 100,000K. Can you blame me? Canada
> has no lemon laws.
>
> Terry
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
> news:UY4qc.15769$hH.389068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>
>>Moshe Jacobson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
>>>>Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
>>>>more power as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
>>>I'm curious.
>>
>>Less restrictive intake and exhaust systems are noisier, though not
>>necessarily to an objectionable level. If you go to
>>www.elantragtclub.com, there are DIY instructions for intake and exhaust
>>modifications and numerous discussions on these subjects in their
>>forums. Another good site is www.elantraxd.com.
>>
>>I've removed the intake resonator on my car (easy, no cost, no added
>>noise that I notice) and will probably replace the stock intake with a
>>cold air intake system (aka, a "CAI") eventually, once I decide which
>>system to go with.
>>
>>The rear muffler is known for being restrictive, so that will soon be
>>replaced with a Magnaflow. Again, you can do this without adding a lot
>>of noise if you select a muffler of similar size and configuration.
>>Magnaflow has information on this in the FAQ section of their web site
>>(www.magnaflow.com).
>>
>>A change to synthetic oil in the engine (0W-30 or 5W-30) and
>>transmission (if you have a manual trans) should help some. I'll be
>>doing both once my engine is broken in a bit more (at ~6000 miles).
>>
>>Still, as another poster mentioned, driving style makes the most
>>difference. If your car has a trip computer, use the MPG readout to help
>>you learn the effects of various driving techniques.
>>
>>Despite the fact that my car is still new and breaking in, I'm getting
>>32+ mpg on the highway and ~27 in the city, with an average of 29-31
>>combined.
>>
>
>
>
That's just unbelievable -- no, really...
Tires replaced twice under warranty??? No way... My U.S dealer just
laughed at me when I asked for a tire replacement!
Harry
============
Terry & Patricia Swinamer wrote:
> Not trying to start a war here. All Im going on is the experience Ive had
> with my 2002 Elantra. Its been bad from the get go. Hyundai Canada is not
> taking me seriously, or the cars quality, I can assure you that. Maybe I got
> a bad one, but its been in the shop more than out. When I hear about them
> fudging the gas milage ratings and ignoring problems like the 2-3 upshift
> flare, it makes me angry. The car is beautiful, and Hyundais reputation has
> improved greatly, but until they FIX actual problems rather than explaining
> them as normal operation, they wont move ahead. Its an excellent warranty
> also. I needed mine. Over and over again. Now that its expired, Im living in
> fear of the next big problem.This is whats been replaced on my 2002 Elantra
> so far:
> Both ball joints
> transmission, engine seal, window tapes, seat, power window motors (4)
> rotors, tires(twice) a defective air bag went on its own.tie rod ends
> alternator and a oxygen sensor. All under 100,000K. Can you blame me? Canada
> has no lemon laws.
>
> Terry
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
> news:UY4qc.15769$hH.389068@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>>
>>Moshe Jacobson wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Jason <none.of.your.business@see.left.of.at.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hyundai vehicles have very restrictive intake and exhaust systems.
>>>>Open either up wider and you'll not only see better gas mileage but
>>>>more power as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>Interesting. Makes you wonder why they don't do that to begin with.
>>>I'm curious.
>>
>>Less restrictive intake and exhaust systems are noisier, though not
>>necessarily to an objectionable level. If you go to
>>www.elantragtclub.com, there are DIY instructions for intake and exhaust
>>modifications and numerous discussions on these subjects in their
>>forums. Another good site is www.elantraxd.com.
>>
>>I've removed the intake resonator on my car (easy, no cost, no added
>>noise that I notice) and will probably replace the stock intake with a
>>cold air intake system (aka, a "CAI") eventually, once I decide which
>>system to go with.
>>
>>The rear muffler is known for being restrictive, so that will soon be
>>replaced with a Magnaflow. Again, you can do this without adding a lot
>>of noise if you select a muffler of similar size and configuration.
>>Magnaflow has information on this in the FAQ section of their web site
>>(www.magnaflow.com).
>>
>>A change to synthetic oil in the engine (0W-30 or 5W-30) and
>>transmission (if you have a manual trans) should help some. I'll be
>>doing both once my engine is broken in a bit more (at ~6000 miles).
>>
>>Still, as another poster mentioned, driving style makes the most
>>difference. If your car has a trip computer, use the MPG readout to help
>>you learn the effects of various driving techniques.
>>
>>Despite the fact that my car is still new and breaking in, I'm getting
>>32+ mpg on the highway and ~27 in the city, with an average of 29-31
>>combined.
>>
>
>
>
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"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
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> Pinokkio wrote:
>
> > Here is a another BS.
> > Wow, there must be two Hyundai company's.
> > My Hyundai company is not responding to ridiculous full consumption of
> > 1 to 8 -10 liters/km, from my Getz, gives no answer's regarding to the
lies
> > published in there brochures. Unfortunately the name on my POS is
Hyundai,
> > my first and for sure my last, next time I by a Car.
>
> Gee, do you think your nasty attitude might have something to do with
> it. I'd like to hear the story from their side.
Oh I'm sorry Your a so right. When you by a car from Hyundai, you base your
dissission on the 1 to 16.4 average fuel consumption from there brochure,
but in fact it's not 1 to 16.4, but 1 to 8 or 1 to 10 if your very lucky,
course's you do nothing about it,dont even talk about it. If you do, your
nasty!
But your even more right in your second sense, I do like to here the story
from there side.
Till now I been waiting from novembre last year on.
Just for your information Petrol over here cost about 1 dollar 35 per litre
or about 3,60 dollar per gallon.