I saw back in June someone talking about engine oil change intervals and
everything was discussed EXCEPT..I usually put about 2-3000 miles per oil
change on my 03 Elantra, but it sometimes sits in the garage for 2 months
at a time while I am out of town. Here's what bugs me. the 6 months
interval comes around before the mileage increment shows up. it really
gripes me to have to change oil at 2000 jiles, when the 6 months is up and
car hasn't been driven for a third of the time. I can't see that sitting in
the garage causes the oil to have to be changed!!

 

"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>I saw back in June someone talking about engine oil change intervals and
> everything was discussed EXCEPT..I usually put about 2-3000 miles per oil
> change on my 03 Elantra, but it sometimes sits in the garage for 2 months
> at a time while I am out of town. Here's what bugs me. the 6 months
> interval comes around before the mileage increment shows up. it really
> gripes me to have to change oil at 2000 jiles, when the 6 months is up and
> car hasn't been driven for a third of the time. I can't see that sitting
> in
> the garage causes the oil to have to be changed!!
>

Do you know in advance that the car will sit for two months? If so, plan
ahead and change the oil just before it goes into the garage. With fresh,
contaminant free oils, you can extend the time period. Sitting with
contaminated oil there is the possibility of some internal corrosion, or
with older oils sludging. Newer oils are far superior in that respect. .

 

On Thu, 05 Jul 2007 18:33:09 -0400, "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote:

Or do what I do and change to full synthetic and don't worry about
time, just mileage.

I run full synthetic and change the oil every 5000 miles, less than
twice a year.

>I saw back in June someone talking about engine oil change intervals and
>everything was discussed EXCEPT..I usually put about 2-3000 miles per oil
>change on my 03 Elantra, but it sometimes sits in the garage for 2 months
>at a time while I am out of town. Here's what bugs me. the 6 months
>interval comes around before the mileage increment shows up. it really
>gripes me to have to change oil at 2000 jiles, when the 6 months is up and
>car hasn't been driven for a third of the time. I can't see that sitting in
>the garage causes the oil to have to be changed!!

 

I run synthetic too but still change every 2000 or twice a year. More
often than not The time limit gets me first sometimes changing before 2000
miles. When you can't do yuour own work on engines any longer, I've always
figured that oil at 5 bucks a quart and a filter at 10 bucks is a lot
cheaper than paying some dealer 75 dollars an hour or more for an engine
overhaul. The B/S I can't stand is changing a timing belt at 50,000 miles
or sooner if old age sets in on the car first. Wish they had let timing
chains in cars like they had years ago. I guess they were to expensive.
BNetter to have the customer pay 750-1000 dollars to replace a cheap assed
belt that probably costs no more than 10-15 dollars to make, right? If the
belt was of good quality, it should last 150,000 miles with no stretching
or shrinking. I know, I made belts for various applications for almost 40
years before retirement.

Anyway, oil is cheap.

 

What wrote:
> I run synthetic too but still change every 2000 or twice a year. More
> often than not The time limit gets me first sometimes changing before 2000
> miles. When you can't do yuour own work on engines any longer, I've always
> figured that oil at 5 bucks a quart and a filter at 10 bucks is a lot
> cheaper than paying some dealer 75 dollars an hour or more for an engine
> overhaul.

Are you talking in American dollars? If so, the prices are awfully high.
Regardless of the price, there is no point in unnecessarily wasting a
finite resource, driving up the price in the process.

> The B/S I can't stand is changing a timing belt at 50,000 miles
> or sooner if old age sets in on the car first. Wish they had let timing
> chains in cars like they had years ago. I guess they were to expensive.
> BNetter to have the customer pay 750-1000 dollars to replace a cheap assed
> belt that probably costs no more than 10-15 dollars to make, right?

Who does your work??? You should be able to get a timing belt replaced
for ~$300. Do it yourself and the belt is ~$50 for the OEM part (at
least at my dealer).

> If the
> belt was of good quality, it should last 150,000 miles with no stretching
> or shrinking. I know, I made belts for various applications for almost 40
> years before retirement.

I won't argue with that, but if you want to maintain your warranty, you
have to comply with the requirements.

> Anyway, oil is cheap.

Perhaps, but waste is still waste and it ultimately costs us all money.

 

What is Synthetic oil made of? I thought it was NOT real oil. Maybe I am
wrong. If we want a green lifestyle (And I Do) We should pressure our
governments to spend money on Fuel Cell research and plan the ultimate
(retirement of fossil fuel engines and power generating all together.) As
long as idioys in my country run around in 500 hp SUVs and pick-up trucks
it is not going to get any better, only worse.

I live in the United States. My elected and (appointed) one's too,leaders
believe it is better to wage war in oil producing nations than it is to
spend 10 dollars on any change in energy policy. At upwards toward a
trillion dollars on an unwinnable civil war for cheap oil, that money could
have been spent on development of new better and more earth frienly energy
source and opening up the USA to being the world's inventor of technology
instead of the world's biggest users,wasters, and polluters.

My Hyundai dealer is perhaps the highest priced in the area for
maintainance.

Like I said in my earler post, I can't work on them any longer. I wish that
I could. Arthur has gotten the best of me. (Arthur-itis that is.) When I
was a young kid, we used to use re-refined oil in our old cars. What
happened to that?

I don't know but to me that was a good idea, along with glass, milk , beer,
and soft drink bottles too. Ethanol is a good idea but not corn ethanol.
All that is going to do is drive up food prices. The South Americans are
making their ethanol from sugar cane and getting twice the bang for the
buck. All corn ethanol does is make oil barons corn barons. Either way the
public is the victim.

With two former oil men running our government (I use that word loosley)
and a bunch of politicos that are controlled by big oil and corn farming
conglomerates, you and I don't stand a chance my friend.

Thanks for the comments. I did not want you to think though that I was just
a polluter and waster.

 

a little politics goes a long way! I always use synthetic and I'm not mad
at anyone, Bush, Chaney, Clinton, Carter. All the same

 

I second that motion!

Steve, AZ



"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>a little politics goes a long way! I always use synthetic and I'm not mad
> at anyone, Bush, Chaney, Clinton, Carter. All the same
>
>

 

buy a new sonata both the V-6 and the four cyl. have timing chains, so does
the 3.3L santa fe and the 3.8L entourage and Azera!!!

What wrote:
>I run synthetic too but still change every 2000 or twice a year. More
>often than not The time limit gets me first sometimes changing before 2000
>miles. When you can't do yuour own work on engines any longer, I've always
>figured that oil at 5 bucks a quart and a filter at 10 bucks is a lot
>cheaper than paying some dealer 75 dollars an hour or more for an engine
>overhaul. The B/S I can't stand is changing a timing belt at 50,000 miles
>or sooner if old age sets in on the car first. Wish they had let timing
>chains in cars like they had years ago. I guess they were to expensive.
>BNetter to have the customer pay 750-1000 dollars to replace a cheap assed
>belt that probably costs no more than 10-15 dollars to make, right? If the
>belt was of good quality, it should last 150,000 miles with no stretching
>or shrinking. I know, I made belts for various applications for almost 40
>years before retirement.
>
>Anyway, oil is cheap.

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Somebody finally woke up. Those chains will be on the vehicle when the rest
of the car is towed off completely worn out.

 

Was it Cheryl Crow who suggested we only use one sheet of toilet paper to
stop global warming? Have you tried that?

"What" <that@twit.com> wrote in message
news:Hksji.20769$RX.16673@newssvr11.news.prodigy.n et...
What is Synthetic oil made of? I thought it was NOT real oil. Maybe I am
wrong. If we want a green lifestyle (And I Do) We should pressure our
governments to spend money on Fuel Cell research and plan the ultimate
(retirement of fossil fuel engines and power generating all together.) As
long as idioys in my country run around in 500 hp SUVs and pick-up trucks it
is not going to get any better, only worse.

I live in the United States. My elected and (appointed) one's too,leaders
believe it is better to wage war in oil producing nations than it is to
spend 10 dollars on any change in energy policy. At upwards toward a
trillion dollars on an unwinnable civil war for cheap oil, that money could
have been spent on development of new better and more earth frienly energy
source and opening up the USA to being the world's inventor of technology
instead of the world's biggest users,wasters, and polluters.

My Hyundai dealer is perhaps the highest priced in the area for
maintainance.

Like I said in my earler post, I can't work on them any longer. I wish that
I could. Arthur has gotten the best of me. (Arthur-itis that is.) When I was
a young kid, we used to use re-refined oil in our old cars. What happened to
that?

I don't know but to me that was a good idea, along with glass, milk , beer,
and soft drink bottles too. Ethanol is a good idea but not corn ethanol.
All that is going to do is drive up food prices. The South Americans are
making their ethanol from sugar cane and getting twice the bang for the
buck. All corn ethanol does is make oil barons corn barons. Either way the
public is the victim.

With two former oil men running our government (I use that word loosley) and
a bunch of politicos that are controlled by big oil and corn farming
conglomerates, you and I don't stand a chance my friend.

Thanks for the comments. I did not want you to think though that I was just
a polluter and waster.

 

Ick I am facing a $800 bill soon to get the timing belt done on my '03 Tib 6
cyl. it sucks and there is no room to work in the engine compartment...