E85 fuel in Hyundai's
06-07-2006 | 10:16 PM
#2
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
Cars have to be built specially to handle E-85. They are typically called
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
06-07-2006 | 10:16 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
Cars have to be built specially to handle E-85. They are typically called
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
06-07-2006 | 10:16 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
Cars have to be built specially to handle E-85. They are typically called
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
"flex-fuel" vehicles.
More and more of these are being built all the time by more and more
manufacturers. As I understand it, the number and availability of tax
incentives to buy these are also growing by leaps and bounds. Hyundai and
Kia will apparently join the "flex-fuel vehicle" rush in 2007.
As for modifying a current vehicle, I won't say it's impossible, but so much
would have to be modified, I doubt any kits will be made available, unless
there are some very committed people out there.
I would also ask people to think carefully before buying a vehicle that runs
on E-85, unless it is a true "flex-fuel" vehicle, meaning it can also run on
regular unleaded. For now, the availability of E-85 is limited, meaning
unless your driving is totally local, you may have some problems finding a
station that supplies it out of your area. As I understand it, that is
changing rapidly also.
Ethanol plants are being built and proposed left and right. I think you
will find that this is a phenomenon that will become a very real part of our
fuel future in the years to come.
But for now, sorry but I don't think this will help your Elantra and Santa
Fe.
Hope this helps.
Tom Wenndt
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
06-09-2006 | 01:41 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
06-09-2006 | 01:41 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
06-09-2006 | 01:41 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
06-09-2006 | 10:37 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com> wrote in message
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> "Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
> >I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> > selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> > Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> > conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
> No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
> vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on
gasoline
> they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
> like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its
just
> something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
> alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
> mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
>
its only around 10-20% loss of fuel economy, E85 doesnt have as much bang as
regular petrol.
06-09-2006 | 10:37 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com> wrote in message
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> "Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
> >I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> > selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> > Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> > conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
> No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
> vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on
gasoline
> they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
> like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its
just
> something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
> alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
> mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
>
its only around 10-20% loss of fuel economy, E85 doesnt have as much bang as
regular petrol.
06-09-2006 | 10:37 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
"Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com> wrote in message
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> "Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com...
> >I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
> > selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
> > Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
> > conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
> No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
> vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on
gasoline
> they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
> like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its
just
> something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
> alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
> mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
>
its only around 10-20% loss of fuel economy, E85 doesnt have as much bang as
regular petrol.
06-12-2006 | 10:27 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
06-12-2006 | 10:27 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
06-12-2006 | 10:27 PM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
wrote:
>
>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com.. .
>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>
>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>
I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
06-13-2006 | 05:12 AM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:27:51 GMT, Veritas
<noneofyourbusiness@hall.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com. ..
>>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>>
>>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>>
>I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
>approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
>is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
>any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
Not to mention the amount of oil it takes to grow and process the corn
used to make the ethanol. The chosen claim a net 20% gain over just
using the oil to make gasoline. That requires a level of recycling
energy that far exceeds current practice. The real net result is much
more likly a net loss in efficiency but a net gain in ADM's bank
account.
<noneofyourbusiness@hall.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com. ..
>>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>>
>>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>>
>I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
>approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
>is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
>any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
Not to mention the amount of oil it takes to grow and process the corn
used to make the ethanol. The chosen claim a net 20% gain over just
using the oil to make gasoline. That requires a level of recycling
energy that far exceeds current practice. The real net result is much
more likly a net loss in efficiency but a net gain in ADM's bank
account.
06-13-2006 | 05:12 AM
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Re: E85 fuel in Hyundai's
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 02:27:51 GMT, Veritas
<noneofyourbusiness@hall.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com. ..
>>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>>
>>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>>
>I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
>approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
>is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
>any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
Not to mention the amount of oil it takes to grow and process the corn
used to make the ethanol. The chosen claim a net 20% gain over just
using the oil to make gasoline. That requires a level of recycling
energy that far exceeds current practice. The real net result is much
more likly a net loss in efficiency but a net gain in ADM's bank
account.
<noneofyourbusiness@hall.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 12:41:45 -0500, "Dan K" <danielgkNOSPAM@visi.com>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Buckeyered" <SPAMPREVENTIONbuckeye_red@spamex.com> wrote in message
>>news:edle82p3uikcsn0ooaj97m76tchoh344qd@4ax.com. ..
>>>I have a 99 Elantra and a 02 Santa Fe and a local fuel center is
>>> selling E85 at .40 less a gallon than regular fuel.
>>> Can I burn this without any alterations or will I have to get a
>>> conversion kit or am I just out of luck?
>>
>>No E85 for you (or me with a 2002 XG350) but I have heard that flex fuel
>>vehicles get really bad mileage on E85, like if they get 20 mpg on gasoline
>>they get 10 mpg on E85. This makes that 40 cent a gallon cheaper E85 look
>>like not so good a deal anymore. I'm not at all sure this is true, its just
>>something I heard. Anyone out there know for sure? They keep saying that
>>alcohol burns hotter and faster so I'm not sure it makes sense that the
>>mileage would be that different, maybe E85 should even be better???
>>
>I'll vouch for that. I recently drove a GM car, a rental, rated at
>approximately 400 miles on a tank of gas, 300 on a tank of E85. There
>is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gasoline, so
>any price benefit would be lost to the lowre mileage.
Not to mention the amount of oil it takes to grow and process the corn
used to make the ethanol. The chosen claim a net 20% gain over just
using the oil to make gasoline. That requires a level of recycling
energy that far exceeds current practice. The real net result is much
more likly a net loss in efficiency but a net gain in ADM's bank
account.