Class Action Suit
01-06-2006, 05:47 PM
#1
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Class Action Suit
I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
says.
I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
there.
If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
General.
The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Norm
purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
says.
I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
there.
If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
General.
The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Norm
01-06-2006, 08:48 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Its probably like the AWD in the Chevy Equinox, if it detects torque
slippage from the front wheels, it delievers more power to the rear.
Stop whining and wanting to sue everyone, thats what causes prices to go up.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sCvf.4905$lb.424738@news1.epix.net...
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for
my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is
"all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have
filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect
much
> there.
>
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
>
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
>
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this
situation.
>
> Norm
>
>
slippage from the front wheels, it delievers more power to the rear.
Stop whining and wanting to sue everyone, thats what causes prices to go up.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sCvf.4905$lb.424738@news1.epix.net...
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for
my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is
"all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have
filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect
much
> there.
>
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
>
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
>
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this
situation.
>
> Norm
>
>
01-06-2006, 08:48 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Its probably like the AWD in the Chevy Equinox, if it detects torque
slippage from the front wheels, it delievers more power to the rear.
Stop whining and wanting to sue everyone, thats what causes prices to go up.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sCvf.4905$lb.424738@news1.epix.net...
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for
my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is
"all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have
filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect
much
> there.
>
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
>
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
>
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this
situation.
>
> Norm
>
>
slippage from the front wheels, it delievers more power to the rear.
Stop whining and wanting to sue everyone, thats what causes prices to go up.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:8sCvf.4905$lb.424738@news1.epix.net...
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for
my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is
"all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have
filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect
much
> there.
>
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
>
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
>
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this
situation.
>
> Norm
>
>
01-06-2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:47:32 GMT, "Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
>purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
>I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
>time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
>says.
>
>I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
>complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
>initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
>there.
Bait and Switch? or Fraud?
>I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
>purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
>I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
>time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
>says.
>
>I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
>complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
>initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
>there.
Bait and Switch? or Fraud?
01-06-2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 22:47:32 GMT, "Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
>purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
>I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
>time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
>says.
>
>I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
>complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
>initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
>there.
Bait and Switch? or Fraud?
>I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
>purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
>I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
>time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
>says.
>
>I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
>complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
>initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
>there.
Bait and Switch? or Fraud?
01-06-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
Why was part-time 4WD a major reason?
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
The web site has the 2006 model now, but it clearly suggests that the
4WD is either "mechanical full-time" or "electronic automatic."
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
I'd consider it an error in the brochure. What evidence of malice do
you have?
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Victimized? Grow up.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Again, what evidence do you have of either fraud or conspiracy? Do you
know what these words even mean?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
And what remedy do you want? It seems you got an even better system
than what you thought you were getting so where are the damages to you?
When I bought my Jeep Comanche many moons ago, Jeep offered, as I
recall, three different 4WD/AWD systems. The offered a completely
manual system (other than not having manual hubs to lock), which I
bought. A full-time system and a full-time system with a torque sensing
center differential. The manual/part-time system was the least capable
and least expense of them all. It seems to me that you got more rather
than less.
Matt
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
Why was part-time 4WD a major reason?
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
The web site has the 2006 model now, but it clearly suggests that the
4WD is either "mechanical full-time" or "electronic automatic."
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
I'd consider it an error in the brochure. What evidence of malice do
you have?
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Victimized? Grow up.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Again, what evidence do you have of either fraud or conspiracy? Do you
know what these words even mean?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
And what remedy do you want? It seems you got an even better system
than what you thought you were getting so where are the damages to you?
When I bought my Jeep Comanche many moons ago, Jeep offered, as I
recall, three different 4WD/AWD systems. The offered a completely
manual system (other than not having manual hubs to lock), which I
bought. A full-time system and a full-time system with a torque sensing
center differential. The manual/part-time system was the least capable
and least expense of them all. It seems to me that you got more rather
than less.
Matt
01-06-2006, 09:06 PM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
Why was part-time 4WD a major reason?
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
The web site has the 2006 model now, but it clearly suggests that the
4WD is either "mechanical full-time" or "electronic automatic."
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
I'd consider it an error in the brochure. What evidence of malice do
you have?
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Victimized? Grow up.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Again, what evidence do you have of either fraud or conspiracy? Do you
know what these words even mean?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
And what remedy do you want? It seems you got an even better system
than what you thought you were getting so where are the damages to you?
When I bought my Jeep Comanche many moons ago, Jeep offered, as I
recall, three different 4WD/AWD systems. The offered a completely
manual system (other than not having manual hubs to lock), which I
bought. A full-time system and a full-time system with a torque sensing
center differential. The manual/part-time system was the least capable
and least expense of them all. It seems to me that you got more rather
than less.
Matt
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
Why was part-time 4WD a major reason?
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
The web site has the 2006 model now, but it clearly suggests that the
4WD is either "mechanical full-time" or "electronic automatic."
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
I'd consider it an error in the brochure. What evidence of malice do
you have?
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Victimized? Grow up.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Again, what evidence do you have of either fraud or conspiracy? Do you
know what these words even mean?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
And what remedy do you want? It seems you got an even better system
than what you thought you were getting so where are the damages to you?
When I bought my Jeep Comanche many moons ago, Jeep offered, as I
recall, three different 4WD/AWD systems. The offered a completely
manual system (other than not having manual hubs to lock), which I
bought. A full-time system and a full-time system with a torque sensing
center differential. The manual/part-time system was the least capable
and least expense of them all. It seems to me that you got more rather
than less.
Matt
01-07-2006, 07:02 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
What are you so wound up about? Part-time 4WD systems are just plain
stupid anyway. You drag the extra hardware around 99.9% of the time and
get no benefit from it other than during the .1% of the time that you
actually use it. In the meantime, you waste fuel hauling the extra
weight. At least with an AWD system you get some minimal benefit all of
the time.
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Exactly HOW have you been "victimized"? What damages have you incurred?
It sounds to me like you got a better system than you thought you had.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Oh, brother! Haven't you got anything better to do than cook up bogus
conspiracy theories?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump all over this evil plot...
Get a life!
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
What are you so wound up about? Part-time 4WD systems are just plain
stupid anyway. You drag the extra hardware around 99.9% of the time and
get no benefit from it other than during the .1% of the time that you
actually use it. In the meantime, you waste fuel hauling the extra
weight. At least with an AWD system you get some minimal benefit all of
the time.
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Exactly HOW have you been "victimized"? What damages have you incurred?
It sounds to me like you got a better system than you thought you had.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Oh, brother! Haven't you got anything better to do than cook up bogus
conspiracy theories?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump all over this evil plot...
Get a life!
01-07-2006, 07:02 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
What are you so wound up about? Part-time 4WD systems are just plain
stupid anyway. You drag the extra hardware around 99.9% of the time and
get no benefit from it other than during the .1% of the time that you
actually use it. In the meantime, you waste fuel hauling the extra
weight. At least with an AWD system you get some minimal benefit all of
the time.
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Exactly HOW have you been "victimized"? What damages have you incurred?
It sounds to me like you got a better system than you thought you had.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Oh, brother! Haven't you got anything better to do than cook up bogus
conspiracy theories?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump all over this evil plot...
Get a life!
> I purchased a new 05 Santa Fe LX last year. One of the major reasons for my
> purchase was the electronic part time 4WD.
>
> I am now told by my dealer as well as Hyundai USA that this vehicle is "all
> time 4WD" despite what the brochure, all web sites, and the window sticker
> says.
>
> I consider this to be a pretty serious case of bait and switch. I have filed
> complaints with the PA Attorney General and the US Attorney requesting
> initiation of a class action law suit. Also the FTC but I don't expect much
> there.
What are you so wound up about? Part-time 4WD systems are just plain
stupid anyway. You drag the extra hardware around 99.9% of the time and
get no benefit from it other than during the .1% of the time that you
actually use it. In the meantime, you waste fuel hauling the extra
weight. At least with an AWD system you get some minimal benefit all of
the time.
> If you have been similarly victimized, please contact your state Attorney
> General.
Exactly HOW have you been "victimized"? What damages have you incurred?
It sounds to me like you got a better system than you thought you had.
> The window stickers are applied at the port of entry so this fraud
> conspiracy goes far beyond my local Hyndai dealer.
Oh, brother! Haven't you got anything better to do than cook up bogus
conspiracy theories?
> If enough people bring this matter to the attention of the proper
> authorities, Hyundai will be forced to take action to remedy this situation.
Yeah, I'm sure they'll jump all over this evil plot...
Get a life!
01-07-2006, 08:41 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
they are reading in those groups.
Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel confident
that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
Norm
Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
they are reading in those groups.
Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel confident
that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
Norm
01-07-2006, 08:41 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
they are reading in those groups.
Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel confident
that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
Norm
Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
they are reading in those groups.
Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel confident
that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
Norm
01-07-2006, 09:31 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
You may want to take your own advice and visit your library, find a
dictionary and look up "fraud" before you embarrass yourself further in
public. Making a mistake doesn't constitute fraud. And proving that
this simply wasn't a mistake on Hyundai's part will be very difficult.
Matt
> I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
You may want to take your own advice and visit your library, find a
dictionary and look up "fraud" before you embarrass yourself further in
public. Making a mistake doesn't constitute fraud. And proving that
this simply wasn't a mistake on Hyundai's part will be very difficult.
Matt
01-07-2006, 09:31 AM
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Re: Class Action Suit
Norm wrote:
> I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
You may want to take your own advice and visit your library, find a
dictionary and look up "fraud" before you embarrass yourself further in
public. Making a mistake doesn't constitute fraud. And proving that
this simply wasn't a mistake on Hyundai's part will be very difficult.
Matt
> I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
You may want to take your own advice and visit your library, find a
dictionary and look up "fraud" before you embarrass yourself further in
public. Making a mistake doesn't constitute fraud. And proving that
this simply wasn't a mistake on Hyundai's part will be very difficult.
Matt
01-07-2006, 11:33 AM
#14
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Class Action Suit
Wow, stupidity of people like you cause lawyers to get rich and everyone
else to pay more. Seems people like you cause most of the problems. Not
mistakes in brochures.
This is not a serious enough offense to make anyone really see it your way
except your lawyer who will get a pretty penny either way.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FyPvf.4921$lb.426718@news1.epix.net...
>I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
>
> I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
>
> There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
> local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
>
> I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel
> confident
> that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
>
else to pay more. Seems people like you cause most of the problems. Not
mistakes in brochures.
This is not a serious enough offense to make anyone really see it your way
except your lawyer who will get a pretty penny either way.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FyPvf.4921$lb.426718@news1.epix.net...
>I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
>
> I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
>
> There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
> local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
>
> I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel
> confident
> that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
>
01-07-2006, 11:33 AM
#15
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Class Action Suit
Wow, stupidity of people like you cause lawyers to get rich and everyone
else to pay more. Seems people like you cause most of the problems. Not
mistakes in brochures.
This is not a serious enough offense to make anyone really see it your way
except your lawyer who will get a pretty penny either way.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FyPvf.4921$lb.426718@news1.epix.net...
>I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
>
> I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
>
> There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
> local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
>
> I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel
> confident
> that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
>
else to pay more. Seems people like you cause most of the problems. Not
mistakes in brochures.
This is not a serious enough offense to make anyone really see it your way
except your lawyer who will get a pretty penny either way.
"Norm" <norm@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:FyPvf.4921$lb.426718@news1.epix.net...
>I am continually amazed that people are somehow smart enough to access
> Usenet Newsgroups yet they lack the native intelligence to understand what
> they are reading in those groups.
>
> Federal Law, specifically 15 U.S.C. 1231 et seq., requires the so called
> window sticker to be affixed to automobiles at the port of entry. This
> sticker lists the standard and optional features of the vehicle.
>
> When the ACTUAL features differ from what is listed that is FRAUD.
>
> I'm sorry if you are too stupid to understand this simple concept.
>
> There is not much more I can do to explain it to you. Please go to your
> local library and ask the librarian for assistance.
>
> I have retained private counsel and fully intend to sue, but feel
> confident
> that at least one of the 50 States' AGs will bring a cause of action.
>
> Norm
>
>
>
>