Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
vrooom, ......................Doc

 

Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
opposite of what MOST people want these days.


<Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
> vrooom, ......................Doc

 

Yeah you're right. Scrap a project that's almost finished. I'm sure they
took your well written, smooth language letter and posted it right in
front of the marketing group.
Mean while Lexus, BMW, and Infinity are getting ready to go out of business.

Clay


631grant wrote:
> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
> from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
> flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
> stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
> them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
> department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
> letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
> as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
> want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
> opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>
>
> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>
>

 

I understand your frustration. But in Hyundai's defense, this "appeared" to
be exactly what America wanted just a couple of years ago.

I was wondering when there would be "enough" horsepower, etc. And while
indeed what one drives is nobody elses business, technological incremental
improvements through the years have been focused either towards more safety
or more power, and not towards better gas mileage. That changed literally
at the snap of a finger, and the auto makers are scrambling big time to
catch up, because few apparently saw this coming.

Indeed, just a few months ago, I picked up a "new" year old small car
(actually a Kia Spectra) that had just been sitting on the dealer's lot. I
got an incredibly good deal on it to "get it off their lot." Now just a few
short months later, they are able to command pretty close to full price for
every small car they have, they are in such demand.

But my point is that demand only materialized rather recently and made both
cars like this and huge SUV's (at least for people who don't need them for
towing, etc.) rather obsolete.


"631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
> from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
> flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
> stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
> them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
> department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
> letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
> as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
> want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
> opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>
>
> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>
>

 

If I follow the logic correctly, then we should be able to steal the Genesis
and get took for the 4 cyls?

I agree, it was what America wanted awhile ago. With the fuel prices where
they are now, you can't touch a 3-4 banger. My Sonata sits in the garage and
we use the missus' Jeep for now. Hank- sound familiar???

Where's my Yugo?

--
Steve (quietly hoping to trade up to a Genesis, if the price is right!)

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers

http://www.realtor.com/realestate/go...413-1089865380
"Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in message
news:g411ev07oa@enews5.newsguy.com...
>I understand your frustration. But in Hyundai's defense, this "appeared"
>to be exactly what America wanted just a couple of years ago.
>
> I was wondering when there would be "enough" horsepower, etc. And while
> indeed what one drives is nobody elses business, technological incremental
> improvements through the years have been focused either towards more
> safety or more power, and not towards better gas mileage. That changed
> literally at the snap of a finger, and the auto makers are scrambling big
> time to catch up, because few apparently saw this coming.
>
> Indeed, just a few months ago, I picked up a "new" year old small car
> (actually a Kia Spectra) that had just been sitting on the dealer's lot.
> I got an incredibly good deal on it to "get it off their lot." Now just a
> few short months later, they are able to command pretty close to full
> price for every small car they have, they are in such demand.
>
> But my point is that demand only materialized rather recently and made
> both cars like this and huge SUV's (at least for people who don't need
> them for towing, etc.) rather obsolete.
>
>
> "631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
>> from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
>> flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
>> stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
>> them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
>> department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
>> letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say
>> that as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive
>> anything you want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly
>> introduce exactly the opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>>
>>
>> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>>
>>
>
>
>

 

"631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
> from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
> flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
> stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
> them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
> department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
> letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
> as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
> want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
> opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>
>
> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>
>


Yea but you know, even the V8 version is producing 27mpg... not bad eh?

Just saw it on the cover of Car & Driver.

*****

 

"*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:zsY8k.8202$89.3081@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
> "631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
>> from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
>> flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
>> stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
>> them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
>> department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
>> letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say
>> that as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive
>> anything you want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly
>> introduce exactly the opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>>
>>
>> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>>
>>
>
>
> Yea but you know, even the V8 version is producing 27mpg... not bad eh?
>
> Just saw it on the cover of Car & Driver.
>
> *****



Allow me to correct myself. It's 25mpg for the big 8cyl... still a notable
accomplishment for that much horsepower, and better than I get on my 6cyl
Chevy Equinox.

*****

 

I can live with 25 mpg. I get 27 on my 08 Sonata SE!



--
Steve

2008 Sonata SE- His
2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers

http://www.realtor.com/realestate/go...413-1089865380
"*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:lG79k.81$cn7.5@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
> "*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:zsY8k.8202$89.3081@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> "631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>>> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can
>>> go from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives
>>> a flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations,
>>> not stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and
>>> told them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing
>>> research department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent
>>> the same letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary)
>>> will say that as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll
>>> drive anything you want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly
>>> introduce exactly the opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>>>
>>>
>>> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>>>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>>>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yea but you know, even the V8 version is producing 27mpg... not bad eh?
>>
>> Just saw it on the cover of Car & Driver.
>>
>> *****
>
>
>
> Allow me to correct myself. It's 25mpg for the big 8cyl... still a
> notable accomplishment for that much horsepower, and better than I get on
> my 6cyl Chevy Equinox.
>
> *****
>

 

"Steve R." <fixmypc01@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ss99k.6933$5y2.6553@fe113.usenetserver.com...
>I can live with 25 mpg. I get 27 on my 08 Sonata SE!
>
>
>
> --
> Steve
>
> 2008 Sonata SE- His
> 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo- Hers
>
> http://www.realtor.com/realestate/go...413-1089865380
> "*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> news:lG79k.81$cn7.5@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>> "*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>> news:zsY8k.8202$89.3081@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...
>>> "631grant" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>>> news:x7M8k.15362$s77.13824@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>>>> Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can
>>>> go from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives
>>>> a flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations,
>>>> not stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them
>>>> and told them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing
>>>> research department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent
>>>> the same letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary)
>>>> will say that as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll
>>>> drive anything you want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly
>>>> introduce exactly the opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <Dr.Colon.Oscopy@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:16e098e8-3e02-4c6b-a72f-daca215b12e9@a1g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Just recieved a Hyundai email touting the new Genesis. Guess like
>>>>> SUV's they've built them, now they have to try to sell them, vroom
>>>>> vrooom, ......................Doc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yea but you know, even the V8 version is producing 27mpg... not bad eh?
>>>
>>> Just saw it on the cover of Car & Driver.
>>>
>>> *****
>>
>>
>>
>> Allow me to correct myself. It's 25mpg for the big 8cyl... still a
>> notable accomplishment for that much horsepower, and better than I get on
>> my 6cyl Chevy Equinox.
>>
>> *****
>>
>
>
>


Believe it or not, my 04 Impala (which is a full size car) delivers 30 MPG
almost all the time (on highway driving, which is about 90% of my
driving)... and has NEVER delivered less than 26 in all town driving.

I'm not that crazy about the car, but I keep hanging on because it's large
with a big trunk (I'm a salesmen) hasn't caused me any mechanical headaches,
and has mileage as good as anything available, especially for the size.

*****

 

On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:42:20 -0400, "631grant"
<tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
>from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
>flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
>stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
>them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
>department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
>letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
>as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
>want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
>opposite of what MOST people want these days.

You must keep in mind the Genesis is not for everyone. It's for the
few that can afford the high $35-$45 initial price, and those who are
willing to trade off 25mpg for high level comfort and performance.
Obviously the Genesis is not for you.
-

Bob

 

On Jun 29, 2:28 pm, Bob Adkins <bob.adk...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:42:20 -0400, "631grant"
>
> <tjwit...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
> >from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
> >flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
> >stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
> >them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
> >department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
> >letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
> >as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
> >want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
> >opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>
> You must keep in mind the Genesis is not for everyone. It's for the
> few that can afford the high $35-$45 initial price, and those who are
> willing to trade off 25mpg for high level comfort and performance.
> Obviously the Genesis is not for you.
> -
>
> Bob

Becoming a bit less subltle then that a these days wouldn't you
say?.....................Doc

 

"Bob Adkins" <bob.adkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:vrkf64hu8jbvpjq621l9rhukc30bnv8gh3@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:42:20 -0400, "631grant"
> <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>>Yea, I just got a similar email from them touting that the Genesis can go
>>from 0 to 60 in the time it takes to read this sentence. Who gives a
>>flying crap? I want to sloooowly accelerate past a few gas stations, not
>>stop at every one!!! 375 HP. Come on Hyundai. I wrote to them and told
>>them that they are crazy and should line up their marketing research
>>department and either fire them all or shoot them all. I sent the same
>>letter to Kia. Now I know a few of you (no names necessary) will say that
>>as long as you have the money to afford the gas you'll drive anything you
>>want but you have to admit that it's nuts to boldly introduce exactly the
>>opposite of what MOST people want these days.
>
> You must keep in mind the Genesis is not for everyone. It's for the
> few that can afford the high $35-$45 initial price, and those who are
> willing to trade off 25mpg for high level comfort and performance.
> Obviously the Genesis is not for you.
> -
>
> Bob


Actually it could have easily been for me until the recent spike in gasoline
prices.

With that now appearing to be a permanent change, I'm seriously thinking
about a VW Jetta Diesel, which when driven right in great conditions can
actually produce 47 MPG and there's no batteries to worry about.

*****

 

"*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
> With that now appearing to be a permanent change, I'm seriously thinking
> about a VW Jetta Diesel, which when driven right in great conditions can
> actually produce 47 MPG and there's no batteries to worry about.
>
> *****

Or, for the same cost per mile, a 37 mpg gas powered car. That additional
buck a gallon more for diesel really sucks.

 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
news:tpX9k.9409$cW3.5402@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com...
>
> "*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>> With that now appearing to be a permanent change, I'm seriously thinking
>> about a VW Jetta Diesel, which when driven right in great conditions can
>> actually produce 47 MPG and there's no batteries to worry about.
>>
>> *****
>
> Or, for the same cost per mile, a 37 mpg gas powered car. That additional
> buck a gallon more for diesel really sucks.
>



Diesel is only 50 cents a gallon higher in my neck of the woods, at the most
75. Even with the increase in cost, the longevity of a diesel and with many
owners reporting 50 mpg makes it second only to the Prius (based on an
article I just read at an automotive site).

*****

 

"*****" <wesk@prodigy.net> wrote in message
>
>
> Diesel is only 50 cents a gallon higher in my neck of the woods, at the
> most 75. Even with the increase in cost, the longevity of a diesel and
> with many owners reporting 50 mpg makes it second only to the Prius (based
> on an article I just read at an automotive site).
>
> *****

Here in CT we get hosed on taxes. Diesel was a buck higher but is now 90¢

As for longevity, many do last much longer than gas engines, but some have
proven to be less reliable over time. I don't know about the TDI. VW does
have a lot of experience with them though. Remember the Rabbit? You could
always tell the diesel from the black soot up the back end.

I'm wondering if the Prius owners will be a happy bunch in five years as the
batteries start to fail. Or what the resale value of one at that age will
be even if otherwise in good condition.