"Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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> I'm going to have to take the morning off from work to drive to the
> dealership, wait for them to fix it, then drive home to drop the car off
> since I don't have a parking space at work and THEN go to work. In rush
> hour traffic, the drive to the dealership will take me a minimum of 40
> minutes each way. Whether it was the fault of the salesman or the shop
> that prepped the car incorrectly, the dealer should compensate me for my
> time and the inconvenience. Whatever happened to customer satisfaction?

Actually, you don't HAVE to do it that way, you CHOSE to do so.

The alarm chirp is not a critical part of the operations of the vehicle. It
can be fixed at any time you choose while still under warranty. You can
schedule it for a holiday from work and plan a shopping trip or lunch around
it. Or whatever you'd rather do. Your choice, your decision.

I've never read a warranty that will compensate you for your time. Most
specifically state they will not. I'd wait until there was some other
reason to go back to the dealer, but that is me, you can make your own
priorities.

Locking doors is silly anyway. It invites damage when the would be thief
breaks windows and pries things open. The real pro is going to get your car
no matter what you do.

I cannot imagine what you'd do if you bought a car back in the 1950's. It
was common to have a list of 10 to 15 items for the dealer to correct.
Fortunately, they don't build 'em the way they used to.

 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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>>I just tried to set off the alarm by opening the door with the key, and
>>nothing happened, so it does sound as if the alarm isn't setting. Looks
>>like the car is going in on Monday morning. What a disappointment -- the
>>car will be in the shop before my check has even cleared. I'll be
>>mentioning that to the salesman and reminding him that I haven't done his
>>evaluation yet.
>
> Opening the car with a key should not set off an alarm. That would be
> dumb. Leave a window open, then reach in and open the door with no key and
> see if that sets the alarm off.

I double-checked this morning and confirmed that the alarm does indeed sound
when I open the door after locking with the remote and then unlocking with
the key. I agree that it doesn't make sense, but since other posters
observe the same behavior on their Elantra's it seems to be either a design
choice or a wide bug.

 

"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> I agree that it doesn't make sense, but since other posters observe the
> same behavior on their Elantra's it seems to be either a design choice or
> a wide bug.

Thinking about it, as a security setup it may make a little sense. If
someone gets a key made or otherwise pops the lock, the alarm is still
active. I don't know if that is better than the present setup. In my case,
I don't recall using the key to enter the door or the truck on either of my
cars since I've owned ones with keyless entry, about 10 years.

 

A missing contact pad under the hood was the problem; they replaced it this
morning. The dealership was very nice and special-ordered a set of floor
mats for me to make up for the inconvenience. Well done for them.

"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
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> "Fantine" <fantine@att.net> wrote in message
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>> What is supposed to happen on the 07 Elantra SE when the lock button is
>> pressed twice on the remote key fob? The doors do lock, but there's
>> neither a "chirp" (which the quick guide says there should be) nor do the
>> hazard lights flash (which the owners manual says should happen). It's a
>> bit frustrating when you get told two different things, and neither
>> happens. The hazards do flash twice when the unlock button is pressed,
>> it's the lock button that's messed up. I'm going to bring it back to the
>> dealer next Saturday, but I want to know what I should expect. Thanks.
> I have a 2003 Elantra GLS and when I lock it using the remote the
> parking/hazard lights flash once, but there is no sound. If you lock the
> car with the remote and then unlock it with the key it should set off the
> alarm - you could try that to see if the alarm is being set. In any case
> you should be a getting a flash from the hazard lights as a visual
> confirmation - sounds like you need some "warranty service". Hope this
> helps.
>

 

Reply to message from "Partner" <Murphy23@comcast.net> (Sun, 12 Nov 2006
19:21:49) about "Re: 2007 Hyndai Elantra SE":

P> It may be dumb, but that's the way it works. My wife locks the car with
P> her remote, I open it with a key--- alarms big time.

What was even dumber was the time I locked it with the fob and I opened it
with the key!

Speaking of alarms - I never heard the alarm on my Tib. I just assumed it
had one. Must check it if I remember this evening.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:36:44 -0600

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Reply to message from Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> (Mon, 13 Nov 2006
18:11:31) about "7Re: 2007 Hyndai Elantra SE":

WM> Speaking of alarms - I never heard the alarm on my Tib. I just assumed
WM> it had one. Must check it if I remember this evening.

Well I checked and it works just fine. However I learned something that may
be of interest to the O/P.

When I locked / armed the car using the remote and then used the key to
unlock the door, the alarm did not go off when I, opened the door. It would
have gone off with my 2002 Elantra GT.

So I wound down the window and rearmed the alarm using the fob. I then
reached in unlocked the door and opened the door. The alarm went off.

I guess they changed the logic since my Elantra, figuring if the car was
opened with a key it is probably the owner. Reaching in simulated a smashed
window. Makes sense.

I can't remember what the O/P wrote but maybe that is the behaviour with
his new Elantra also.

Now I think I will replace the alarm horn. The 'squeaking' noise it makes
is ridiculous. I already have twin Fiamm horns that sound perfect and loud.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:40 -0600

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What about replacing the whole alarm? Hard? Expensive?

The alarm in my 06 Sonata is totally reliant on the thief opening a
door or maybe the hood. If they bust the window and reach in or climb
in, the alarm is just going to sit there doing nothing.

The trunk doesn't seem to be alarmed at all.


Wayne Moses wrote:
> Reply to message from Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> (Mon, 13 Nov 2006
> 18:11:31) about "7Re: 2007 Hyndai Elantra SE":
> >
> Now I think I will replace the alarm horn. The 'squeaking' noise it makes
> is ridiculous. I already have twin Fiamm horns that sound perfect and loud.
>
> Best Regards
> Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Mon, 13 Nov 2006 18:26:40 -0600
>
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"PMDR" <kikaiju@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> What about replacing the whole alarm? Hard? Expensive?
>
> The alarm in my 06 Sonata is totally reliant on the thief opening a
> door or maybe the hood. If they bust the window and reach in or climb
> in, the alarm is just going to sit there doing nothing.
>
> The trunk doesn't seem to be alarmed at all.


This points out why car alarms are pretty much useless. The pro knows how
to get past them easily. The amateur is going to do more damage than if you
just left the door open so they can browse around.

 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
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>
> "PMDR" <kikaiju@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1163492965.410042.169760@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> > What about replacing the whole alarm? Hard? Expensive?
> >
> > The alarm in my 06 Sonata is totally reliant on the thief opening a
> > door or maybe the hood. If they bust the window and reach in or climb
> > in, the alarm is just going to sit there doing nothing.
> >
> > The trunk doesn't seem to be alarmed at all.
>
>
> This points out why car alarms are pretty much useless. The pro knows how
> to get past them easily. The amateur is going to do more damage than if
you
> just left the door open so they can browse around.
>

Very true, but in a lot of areas it's not pro's who steal cars, or who break
into them. Around here it's more kids or younger adults who are far from
that level of pro. More damage? Agreed.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
> Very true, but in a lot of areas it's not pro's who steal cars, or who
> break
> into them. Around here it's more kids or younger adults who are far from
> that level of pro. More damage? Agreed.
>

I've had my cars broken into twice. Both times unlocked. The first time,
they got a quart can of oil that was on the floor on the back seat. Other
cars parked near me had broken windows, scratched paint. My loss was $1.00
The second time the glove box was opened and I had to put the junk back into
it. Total loss $0.

My brother had his convertible top slashed so someone could steal a pair of
$5 sunglasses. Another friend lost her Bonneville that was parked about 50
feet from her office. Yes, it had an alarm. She got the remains back about
6 months later.

Alarmed or not, it is dumb to leave anything of value visible in a car. Too
tempting.

Some years ago the new on some TV station did a test. They had two cars
parked on a busy New York street. One was legitimate, the other was to be
"stolen" by a pro to show how easily it could be done. Both were locked.
The reformed thief drove away at the same time as the guy with a key and no
one every saw anything amiss. .

 

> I've had my cars broken into twice. Both times unlocked. The first time,
> they got a quart can of oil that was on the floor on the back seat. Other
> cars parked near me had broken windows, scratched paint. My loss was $1.00
> The second time the glove box was opened and I had to put the junk back
> into it. Total loss $0.
>
> My brother had his convertible top slashed so someone could steal a pair
> of $5 sunglasses. Another friend lost her Bonneville that was parked
> about 50 feet from her office. Yes, it had an alarm. She got the remains
> back about 6 months later.
>
> Alarmed or not, it is dumb to leave anything of value visible in a car.
> Too tempting.
>
> Some years ago the new on some TV station did a test. They had two cars
> parked on a busy New York street. One was legitimate, the other was to be
> "stolen" by a pro to show how easily it could be done. Both were locked.
> The reformed thief drove away at the same time as the guy with a key and
> no one every saw anything amiss. .

Perhaps the only real benefit of installing an alarm system in a car is it
reduces insurance premiums <g>.

 

Thanks for posting the solution. I looked at one today with the same
issue. Hopefully, it's not a large trend.

 

Reply to message from "PMDR" <kikaiju@gmail.com> (Tue, 14 Nov 2006 02:29:
25) about "Re: 2007 Hyndai Elantra SE":

P> What about replacing the whole alarm? Hard? Expensive?

Not that important for me now. I live in a decent neighbourhood (knock on
wood) drive to work and back and park in a garage both at work and at home.

I just want a less insipid sound when the factory alarm arms.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Tue, 14 Nov 2006 18:53:43 -0600

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Reply to message from "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> (Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:43:02)
about "Re: 2007 Hyndai Elantra SE":

V> Perhaps the only real benefit of installing an alarm system in a car is
V> it reduces insurance premiums <g>.

And the discount is the same factory or after-market.

Best Regards
Wayne Moses <wmoses@houston.rr.com> Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:00:36 -0600

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