Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Rob wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message > news:z_cQf.7107$lb.618739@news1.epix.net... > >>Darby OGill wrote: >> >> >>>Dave, Dave,Dave....If you read my post, would would understand that after >>>OWNING and DRIVING the car for 8000 miles (not rumor or net chatter) >>>that my experience has been trouble free regarding defects and impressive >>>in terms of performance. As far as heater/ac that Matt finds lacking in >>>his car, I find mine works great-excellent controls and functionality. >>>(Yes, its winter here in New England too.) Bilevel has always been part >>>dash vent, part floor vent to my knowledge, and I, for one don't mind a >>>bit of air on the WS in that config.....As far as suspension noise, I >>>don't have that problem, nor the sloshing problem. ..As far as the curt >>>comment on the Sprint....I don't understand where you are going with >>>that. The Sprint was damn good at it's intended purpose-maximizing MPG.(I >>>drove mine 150k miles) ...The intended purpose of the sonata is somewhat >>>different, don't you think? >> >>Yes, in bi-level the flow should be directed to both the dash and floor >>vents. My beef is that in the Hyundai, the FLOOR setting directs air to >>all three vents (floor, dash and defrost)!!! I'd rather the controls do >>what they say and have the floor send air to the floor, bi-level to both >>floor and dash, and defrost to defrost only. >> >>If you haven't heard the sloshing in the tank, then you must have poor >>hearing as EVERY Sonata does this as NONE have baffles in the tank. > > > I must be hard of hearing also. I have never heard the slosh or the thump > and my a/c works great. Nno complaints at all. My LX waas well worth the > 20,000 I paid. I'd guess as with no baffles the fuel will slosh, it is simply physics. Whether one hears it or not will depend on one's hearing and how loud an area you drive in. In a noisy city, you might not hear it. I live in a very rural and very quiet area and it is easy to hear, especially when the tank is 1/2 full or better. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:39:03 GMT, Dave Thompson <nospam@nospam.net> wrote: > > >>On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60 >>>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it >>>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of >>>variables that the driver could affect. >>> >>> >>>>-- >>>>Bob >>> >> >>Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by >>buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of >>these 'problems' get worked out. >> >>Thanks again. Now back to shopping.... > > > Your loss Dave! > > Do your self a favor. Go drive the car, then go drive the other similarly > equipped Mom Cars. Not 1 of them are totally free from such problems. And > for the price, the Sonata can't be touched. Yes, you should always drive before buying. I set out to buy a Toyota Corolla, but after driving 3 different samples, I just couldn't tolerate the relative position of the pedals, seat and steering wheel. The wheel was too close to the plane of the pedals. If I set the seat where my legs were comfortable, my arms were stretched like a banjo string. Conversely, with the seat in a comfortable position for my arms, my knees were crunched against the bolster. Toyota really got the wheel too close to the dash on the current Corolla and a scan of the newsgroup shows that I'm far from alone in this assessment. So, I took the $16,000 that a Corolla would have cost and bought a Sonata instead. I'm fairly happy with the decision overall, but some of the little annoyances really are pretty annoying. I guess I was too used to the comfort of my Grand Voyager minivan which had fewer of these issues. Then again, a new minivan would have cost $10,000 more so you don't get something for nothing. > Am I happy about the niggling little flaws? Of course not! However, even if > I traded it for another car, there would most likely be just as many little > flaws to live with. For another car in the same price range, I agree. > Note: I only experienced 1 of the flaws from the laundry list. I think some > may have possibly been fixed in production, because mine has an assembly > date of 2006-01-29. Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which ones may have been corrected. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:39:03 GMT, Dave Thompson <nospam@nospam.net> wrote: > > >>On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60 >>>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it >>>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of >>>variables that the driver could affect. >>> >>> >>>>-- >>>>Bob >>> >> >>Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by >>buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of >>these 'problems' get worked out. >> >>Thanks again. Now back to shopping.... > > > Your loss Dave! > > Do your self a favor. Go drive the car, then go drive the other similarly > equipped Mom Cars. Not 1 of them are totally free from such problems. And > for the price, the Sonata can't be touched. Yes, you should always drive before buying. I set out to buy a Toyota Corolla, but after driving 3 different samples, I just couldn't tolerate the relative position of the pedals, seat and steering wheel. The wheel was too close to the plane of the pedals. If I set the seat where my legs were comfortable, my arms were stretched like a banjo string. Conversely, with the seat in a comfortable position for my arms, my knees were crunched against the bolster. Toyota really got the wheel too close to the dash on the current Corolla and a scan of the newsgroup shows that I'm far from alone in this assessment. So, I took the $16,000 that a Corolla would have cost and bought a Sonata instead. I'm fairly happy with the decision overall, but some of the little annoyances really are pretty annoying. I guess I was too used to the comfort of my Grand Voyager minivan which had fewer of these issues. Then again, a new minivan would have cost $10,000 more so you don't get something for nothing. > Am I happy about the niggling little flaws? Of course not! However, even if > I traded it for another car, there would most likely be just as many little > flaws to live with. For another car in the same price range, I agree. > Note: I only experienced 1 of the flaws from the laundry list. I think some > may have possibly been fixed in production, because mine has an assembly > date of 2006-01-29. Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which ones may have been corrected. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 04:39:03 GMT, Dave Thompson <nospam@nospam.net> wrote: > > >>On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:50:34 -0500, "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>>Mine does about 25 on a nice flat highway for 40 miles each direction at 60 >>>MPH with the cruise control on, and the air conditioner off. Sticker says it >>>should get about 30. Those driving conditions leave little in the way of >>>variables that the driver could affect. >>> >>> >>>>-- >>>>Bob >>> >> >>Thanks...you all have just about convinced me that I should NOT by >>buying a Sonata...at least this year. Maybe next year if some of >>these 'problems' get worked out. >> >>Thanks again. Now back to shopping.... > > > Your loss Dave! > > Do your self a favor. Go drive the car, then go drive the other similarly > equipped Mom Cars. Not 1 of them are totally free from such problems. And > for the price, the Sonata can't be touched. Yes, you should always drive before buying. I set out to buy a Toyota Corolla, but after driving 3 different samples, I just couldn't tolerate the relative position of the pedals, seat and steering wheel. The wheel was too close to the plane of the pedals. If I set the seat where my legs were comfortable, my arms were stretched like a banjo string. Conversely, with the seat in a comfortable position for my arms, my knees were crunched against the bolster. Toyota really got the wheel too close to the dash on the current Corolla and a scan of the newsgroup shows that I'm far from alone in this assessment. So, I took the $16,000 that a Corolla would have cost and bought a Sonata instead. I'm fairly happy with the decision overall, but some of the little annoyances really are pretty annoying. I guess I was too used to the comfort of my Grand Voyager minivan which had fewer of these issues. Then again, a new minivan would have cost $10,000 more so you don't get something for nothing. > Am I happy about the niggling little flaws? Of course not! However, even if > I traded it for another car, there would most likely be just as many little > flaws to live with. For another car in the same price range, I agree. > Note: I only experienced 1 of the flaws from the laundry list. I think some > may have possibly been fixed in production, because mine has an assembly > date of 2006-01-29. Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which ones may have been corrected. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:50 -0600, marcnew@execpc.com wrote: > > > >>This portion was for 234 miles. An additional 104 miles was commuting >>over a 2 day period. Stop and go driving with numerous stop lights >>and signs and average speed of about 25 MPH (26 miles each way and it >>takes me about 55 minutes on a good day. Mileage was at 27.1 >>combined. I consider this a pretty good mix. > > > Marc, > > I'm getting 26.1 on 80% highway 20% city. (39mph average speed), and I'm > delighted. I'm also delighted that my trip computer is balls on accurate, > and also reports exactly 26.1mpg. > > I feel like I'm stealing gasoline. 26mpg on a car that size and weight, only > 800 miles on the clock, and with an engine that strong is almost too good to > be true. And,,, it may even improve 1-2mpg! You are easy to please! I rented a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country minivan for vacation this past June and it returned 25 MPG in similar driving and it weighs much more than the Sonata and was carrying 5 people and loads of baggage. I expect at least 30 from a car this size in the driving regime you mention above. The full-size Buicks get 28-30 in such driving so there is no reason for the Sonata to get less than that. My 4 cylinder is returning only 27.5 or so in similar driving (I'd say maybe 70% highway rather than 80%) and I consider this abysmal mileage given the 24/34 EPA rating. I expected at least 30 MPG in 70-80% highway driving. Maybe in warmer weather and with more miles (I have 3600 now). I'm hoping at least! Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:50 -0600, marcnew@execpc.com wrote: > > > >>This portion was for 234 miles. An additional 104 miles was commuting >>over a 2 day period. Stop and go driving with numerous stop lights >>and signs and average speed of about 25 MPH (26 miles each way and it >>takes me about 55 minutes on a good day. Mileage was at 27.1 >>combined. I consider this a pretty good mix. > > > Marc, > > I'm getting 26.1 on 80% highway 20% city. (39mph average speed), and I'm > delighted. I'm also delighted that my trip computer is balls on accurate, > and also reports exactly 26.1mpg. > > I feel like I'm stealing gasoline. 26mpg on a car that size and weight, only > 800 miles on the clock, and with an engine that strong is almost too good to > be true. And,,, it may even improve 1-2mpg! You are easy to please! I rented a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country minivan for vacation this past June and it returned 25 MPG in similar driving and it weighs much more than the Sonata and was carrying 5 people and loads of baggage. I expect at least 30 from a car this size in the driving regime you mention above. The full-size Buicks get 28-30 in such driving so there is no reason for the Sonata to get less than that. My 4 cylinder is returning only 27.5 or so in similar driving (I'd say maybe 70% highway rather than 80%) and I consider this abysmal mileage given the 24/34 EPA rating. I expected at least 30 MPG in 70-80% highway driving. Maybe in warmer weather and with more miles (I have 3600 now). I'm hoping at least! Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Mar 2006 07:39:50 -0600, marcnew@execpc.com wrote: > > > >>This portion was for 234 miles. An additional 104 miles was commuting >>over a 2 day period. Stop and go driving with numerous stop lights >>and signs and average speed of about 25 MPH (26 miles each way and it >>takes me about 55 minutes on a good day. Mileage was at 27.1 >>combined. I consider this a pretty good mix. > > > Marc, > > I'm getting 26.1 on 80% highway 20% city. (39mph average speed), and I'm > delighted. I'm also delighted that my trip computer is balls on accurate, > and also reports exactly 26.1mpg. > > I feel like I'm stealing gasoline. 26mpg on a car that size and weight, only > 800 miles on the clock, and with an engine that strong is almost too good to > be true. And,,, it may even improve 1-2mpg! You are easy to please! I rented a 2005 Chrysler Town & Country minivan for vacation this past June and it returned 25 MPG in similar driving and it weighs much more than the Sonata and was carrying 5 people and loads of baggage. I expect at least 30 from a car this size in the driving regime you mention above. The full-size Buicks get 28-30 in such driving so there is no reason for the Sonata to get less than that. My 4 cylinder is returning only 27.5 or so in similar driving (I'd say maybe 70% highway rather than 80%) and I consider this abysmal mileage given the 24/34 EPA rating. I expected at least 30 MPG in 70-80% highway driving. Maybe in warmer weather and with more miles (I have 3600 now). I'm hoping at least! Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
"ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. I > now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 mpg, > but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on the highway though. As predictable as taxes. New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after break in. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
"ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. I > now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 mpg, > but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on the highway though. As predictable as taxes. New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after break in. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
"ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. I > now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 mpg, > but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on the highway though. As predictable as taxes. New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after break in. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message > news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > >>I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. > > I > >>now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 > > mpg, > >>but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. >> > > > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, > plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 > engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM > V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, > 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 > or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy > foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke > out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little > under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on > the highway though. As predictable as taxes. My in-laws have owned two Centuries and I've driven a couple of larger Buick rental cars, and this has been my experience as well. However, Chryslers, Fords and other makes seldom seem to match GM in this regard. The Camry and Accord will yield similar mileage, but only with both a smaller car and small engine. The Buicks are really impressive in highway mileage. I'm not sure how GM does it, but I've seen in many times in Buicks. My experience, however, with Chevy's isn't quite as good. > New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common > for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when > new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after > break in. Me also! I'd even more like to see 30 in my daily ~18 mile commute to work that is mainly on level two and four lane highways. So far, 27.5 is my average, but I check every tank so I'll report back as the mileage increases (3,600 miles so far) and the weather warms as spring approaches. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message > news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > >>I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. > > I > >>now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 > > mpg, > >>but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. >> > > > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, > plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 > engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM > V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, > 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 > or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy > foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke > out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little > under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on > the highway though. As predictable as taxes. My in-laws have owned two Centuries and I've driven a couple of larger Buick rental cars, and this has been my experience as well. However, Chryslers, Fords and other makes seldom seem to match GM in this regard. The Camry and Accord will yield similar mileage, but only with both a smaller car and small engine. The Buicks are really impressive in highway mileage. I'm not sure how GM does it, but I've seen in many times in Buicks. My experience, however, with Chevy's isn't quite as good. > New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common > for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when > new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after > break in. Me also! I'd even more like to see 30 in my daily ~18 mile commute to work that is mainly on level two and four lane highways. So far, 27.5 is my average, but I check every tank so I'll report back as the mileage increases (3,600 miles so far) and the weather warms as spring approaches. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "ptchristensen @att.net" <news> wrote in message > news:Q_iQf.7437$8w2.4686@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > >>I'm commuting about 40 miles a day, from West Los Angeles to downtown LA. > > I > >>now have 3000 miles on my V6, and I have not yet been able to reach 20 > > mpg, > >>but that's ok compared to other V6 cars. >> > > > I like our '04 Sonata and it's pretty much every bit of what we expected, > plus maybe a little. I did want to address your comment above though. V6 > engines should be well able to achieve 24-26mpg around town. I've had GM > V6's for a long time. I've had supercharged 3.8L, non-supercharged 3.8L, > 3.1L. 3.4L and they all achieved this kind of mileage. All of them got 30 > or over on the highway with cruise set at 72mph. I've got a pretty heavy > foot and I like to feel a car accelerate, so my driving style does not eeke > out the last possible mpg. The supercharged 3.8L might have been a little > under 24 - maybe hovering around 21-22 around town. Rock steady 31mpg on > the highway though. As predictable as taxes. My in-laws have owned two Centuries and I've driven a couple of larger Buick rental cars, and this has been my experience as well. However, Chryslers, Fords and other makes seldom seem to match GM in this regard. The Camry and Accord will yield similar mileage, but only with both a smaller car and small engine. The Buicks are really impressive in highway mileage. I'm not sure how GM does it, but I've seen in many times in Buicks. My experience, however, with Chevy's isn't quite as good. > New engine break in time does have an effect on most motors and it's common > for them not to develop their proper power or their proper fuel mileage when > new. I'd sure hope to see 24 around town out of the new Hyundai motor after > break in. Me also! I'd even more like to see 30 in my daily ~18 mile commute to work that is mainly on level two and four lane highways. So far, 27.5 is my average, but I check every tank so I'll report back as the mileage increases (3,600 miles so far) and the weather warms as spring approaches. Matt |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:22:16 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which >ones may have been corrected. Matt, The only problem I have experienced is the thunking sound from the trunk area. The sound reminds me of a loose exhaust pipe rebounding against the undercarriage. The noise does not happen when the rear wheels suddenly go up, but when they go back down. (Should that tell us something about the cause?) I have never heard the fuel sloshing, but I suspect it is there. Why do I suspect that? I was vigorously waxing the trunk lid last weekend, and the car was bouncing up and down. I could easily hear the fuel sloshing. :) Maybe it's my hearing. Its generally good, but admittedly not perfect. There is no perceptible "flat spot" or hesitation in the throttle response at any speed. Gas mileage is great at 26.1, and trip computer MPG accuracy is spot on. There is no tire or driveline noise or vibration at any speed. It's absolutely jet-smooth from 0-80mph. What did I miss? -- Bob |
Re: 2006 Sonata GLS v6 Initial Quality Feedback
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 19:22:16 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>Which have you and have you not experienced? I'm curious as to which >ones may have been corrected. Matt, The only problem I have experienced is the thunking sound from the trunk area. The sound reminds me of a loose exhaust pipe rebounding against the undercarriage. The noise does not happen when the rear wheels suddenly go up, but when they go back down. (Should that tell us something about the cause?) I have never heard the fuel sloshing, but I suspect it is there. Why do I suspect that? I was vigorously waxing the trunk lid last weekend, and the car was bouncing up and down. I could easily hear the fuel sloshing. :) Maybe it's my hearing. Its generally good, but admittedly not perfect. There is no perceptible "flat spot" or hesitation in the throttle response at any speed. Gas mileage is great at 26.1, and trip computer MPG accuracy is spot on. There is no tire or driveline noise or vibration at any speed. It's absolutely jet-smooth from 0-80mph. What did I miss? -- Bob |
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