Mike Marlow

"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
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> We own an Acura, a Toyota and a Hyundai. The dealers in my area either
> charge the same or less than several independants.

Maybe custom shops, but it's extremely difficult to believe a dealer with
all of his overhead is cheaper than a standard independent garage. What are
the rates for your Acura, Toyota and Hyundai dealers? What part of the
country are you in?

At most dealerships, the body shop rate is nearly equal to the shop rate of
a good independent garage. The service floor is typically twice the body
shop rate.
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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>Montreal,
>>
>>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
>
>
> I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> garages.
>

In my area they are also nearly identical.

Matt

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>Montreal,
>>
>>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
>
>
> I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> garages.
>

In my area they are also nearly identical.

Matt

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
>
>>Montreal,
>>
>>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
>
>
> I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> garages.
>

In my area they are also nearly identical.

Matt

Ghislain

All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or whenever
your car is ready.

I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in news:
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>
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:A5udnayzvK9VPx3ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
>> We own an Acura, a Toyota and a Hyundai. The dealers in my area either
>> charge the same or less than several independants.
>
> Maybe custom shops, but it's extremely difficult to believe a dealer with
> all of his overhead is cheaper than a standard independent garage. What
> are
> the rates for your Acura, Toyota and Hyundai dealers? What part of the
> country are you in?
>
> At most dealerships, the body shop rate is nearly equal to the shop rate
> of
> a good independent garage. The service floor is typically twice the body
> shop rate.
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Ghislain

All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or whenever
your car is ready.

I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in news:
bff1a$4480b4e7$45289739$18595@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:A5udnayzvK9VPx3ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
>> We own an Acura, a Toyota and a Hyundai. The dealers in my area either
>> charge the same or less than several independants.
>
> Maybe custom shops, but it's extremely difficult to believe a dealer with
> all of his overhead is cheaper than a standard independent garage. What
> are
> the rates for your Acura, Toyota and Hyundai dealers? What part of the
> country are you in?
>
> At most dealerships, the body shop rate is nearly equal to the shop rate
> of
> a good independent garage. The service floor is typically twice the body
> shop rate.
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Ghislain

All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or whenever
your car is ready.

I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in news:
bff1a$4480b4e7$45289739$18595@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
> news:A5udnayzvK9VPx3ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
>> We own an Acura, a Toyota and a Hyundai. The dealers in my area either
>> charge the same or less than several independants.
>
> Maybe custom shops, but it's extremely difficult to believe a dealer with
> all of his overhead is cheaper than a standard independent garage. What
> are
> the rates for your Acura, Toyota and Hyundai dealers? What part of the
> country are you in?
>
> At most dealerships, the body shop rate is nearly equal to the shop rate
> of
> a good independent garage. The service floor is typically twice the body
> shop rate.
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> > news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> >
> >>Montreal,
> >>
> >>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
> >
> >
> > I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> > garages.
> >
>
> In my area they are also nearly identical.
>

Wow. I'm quickly becoming very surprised by the replies I'm seeing. In my
area most dealerships are up around $60 - 90 per hour for the service bays.
Independents are hovering around $40.

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-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> > news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> >
> >>Montreal,
> >>
> >>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
> >
> >
> > I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> > garages.
> >
>
> In my area they are also nearly identical.
>

Wow. I'm quickly becoming very surprised by the replies I'm seeing. In my
area most dealerships are up around $60 - 90 per hour for the service bays.
Independents are hovering around $40.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
> > news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> >
> >>Montreal,
> >>
> >>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
> >
> >
> > I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
> > garages.
> >
>
> In my area they are also nearly identical.
>

Wow. I'm quickly becoming very surprised by the replies I'm seeing. In my
area most dealerships are up around $60 - 90 per hour for the service bays.
Independents are hovering around $40.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
news:EamdnZezZol7mRzZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
> All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
> more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
> charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
> serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
> serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
> service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or
whenever
> your car is ready.
>
> I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.
>

Well for those kinds of rates, I'd be using the dealer as well! That's a
great way to build a relationship as long as you're not going to do the work
yourself. I'm really surprised at the replies indicating the independents
in different areas that are getting what the dealers get. Near me the
dealers get between $60 - $90 for the service bays and the independents get
around $40. If you're not doing your own work, a good independent is a much
better choice around here.

Thanks for the informed reply.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
news:EamdnZezZol7mRzZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
> All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
> more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
> charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
> serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
> serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
> service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or
whenever
> your car is ready.
>
> I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.
>

Well for those kinds of rates, I'd be using the dealer as well! That's a
great way to build a relationship as long as you're not going to do the work
yourself. I'm really surprised at the replies indicating the independents
in different areas that are getting what the dealers get. Near me the
dealers get between $60 - $90 for the service bays and the independents get
around $40. If you're not doing your own work, a good independent is a much
better choice around here.

Thanks for the informed reply.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in message
news:EamdnZezZol7mRzZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@teksavvy.com ...
> All dealers charge between $74 and $79/hour (and the Acura dealer is not
> more expensive that the Hyundai dealer). The independant shops in my area
> charge $79/hour or more. In the long run, I find that having my cars
> serviced by the dealer isn't necessarily more expensive than having them
> serviced by independants. In addition, all three dealerships offer shuttle
> service, but Hyundai does not pick you up at the end of the day or
whenever
> your car is ready.
>
> I live in Gatineau, near Ottawa.
>

Well for those kinds of rates, I'd be using the dealer as well! That's a
great way to build a relationship as long as you're not going to do the work
yourself. I'm really surprised at the replies indicating the independents
in different areas that are getting what the dealers get. Near me the
dealers get between $60 - $90 for the service bays and the independents get
around $40. If you're not doing your own work, a good independent is a much
better choice around here.

Thanks for the informed reply.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:T47gg.9226$lb.836184@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
>>>news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Montreal,
>>>>
>>>>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
>>>garages.
>>>
>>
>>In my area they are also nearly identical.
>>
>
>
> Wow. I'm quickly becoming very surprised by the replies I'm seeing. In my
> area most dealerships are up around $60 - 90 per hour for the service bays.
> Independents are hovering around $40.

I don't know what the Hyundai dealer is as I haven't paid for any work
there yet, but the local Chrysler dealer was something like $55/hour and
the one independent that I used a year ago was $50 and the work wasn't
all that impressive. I've actually had better luck with the dealers
than with the independents for the most part. I almost never use
independents anymore. I tried one last year that was well recommended,
but I felt they charged more hours for the same job as compared to the
dealer so the lower rate was offset by more time.

I know lots of folks rag on dealers, but I've actually had good luck
with the local Chrysler and Chevy dealerships and, so far, with Hyundai.
Although, as I said, what little work I've had at Hyundai so far was
all warranty recall tidbits. I did get an estimate from them when my
Sonata was rear-ended by a drunk driver recently, and they came in much
less than what the insurance adjuster estimated for the repair, which I
thought was surprising.


Matt

Matt Whiting

Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:T47gg.9226$lb.836184@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Finn" <Someone@somewhereoutthere.com> wrote in message
>>>news:SL0gg.3647$EF1.263929@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Montreal,
>>>>
>>>>Going for an oil change next week will get the exact $/Hour
>>>
>>>
>>>I'm certain you will find the flat rate to be much higher than local
>>>garages.
>>>
>>
>>In my area they are also nearly identical.
>>
>
>
> Wow. I'm quickly becoming very surprised by the replies I'm seeing. In my
> area most dealerships are up around $60 - 90 per hour for the service bays.
> Independents are hovering around $40.

I don't know what the Hyundai dealer is as I haven't paid for any work
there yet, but the local Chrysler dealer was something like $55/hour and
the one independent that I used a year ago was $50 and the work wasn't
all that impressive. I've actually had better luck with the dealers
than with the independents for the most part. I almost never use
independents anymore. I tried one last year that was well recommended,
but I felt they charged more hours for the same job as compared to the
dealer so the lower rate was offset by more time.

I know lots of folks rag on dealers, but I've actually had good luck
with the local Chrysler and Chevy dealerships and, so far, with Hyundai.
Although, as I said, what little work I've had at Hyundai so far was
all warranty recall tidbits. I did get an estimate from them when my
Sonata was rear-ended by a drunk driver recently, and they came in much
less than what the insurance adjuster estimated for the repair, which I
thought was surprising.


Matt