Hello,

does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
(pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.



What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
extend the date.



The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
war are the alternative.



If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
country.



Regards.


You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/

 

peakoil wrote:
> Hello,
>
> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> Campbell)


Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?

 

News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
news:TY6dncUxxuWwarLXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> peakoil wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>> Campbell)
>
>
> Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?
>


You're thinking of CLARENCE Campbell, and he was NHL President, not
Commissioner.

But when he was President, many players oiled their hair, sometimes into
peaks, so maybe there's a connection there...somewhere...

Here's a photo of the famous "Rocket" Richard, a player from Campbell's
time.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maurice_richard_profile.jpg>
Try and tell me there's no oil in that hair...


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

Tegger wrote:
> News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
> news:TY6dncUxxuWwarLXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>
>> peakoil wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>>> Campbell)
>>
>> Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?
>>
>
>
> You're thinking of CLARENCE Campbell, and he was NHL President, not
> Commissioner.
>
> But when he was President, many players oiled their hair, sometimes into
> peaks, so maybe there's a connection there...somewhere...
>
> Here's a photo of the famous "Rocket" Richard, a player from Campbell's
> time.
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maurice_richard_profile.jpg>
> Try and tell me there's no oil in that hair...
>
>


Yep. The bad old days.

Colin Campbell is currently NHL Senior Executive Vice President (WTF?
Title inflation?) and Director of Hockey Operations

 

News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
news:jaWdnRoDbLbwYrLXnZ2dnUVZ_uGdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> Tegger wrote:
>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>> news:TY6dncUxxuWwarLXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> peakoil wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g.
>>>> Colin Campbell)
>>>
>>> Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're thinking of CLARENCE Campbell, and he was NHL President, not
>> Commissioner.
>>
>> But when he was President, many players oiled their hair, sometimes
>> into peaks, so maybe there's a connection there...somewhere...
>>
>> Here's a photo of the famous "Rocket" Richard, a player from
>> Campbell's time.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maurice_richard_profile.jpg>
>> Try and tell me there's no oil in that hair...
>>
>>
>
>
> Yep. The bad old days.
>
> Colin Campbell is currently NHL Senior Executive Vice President (WTF?
> Title inflation?) and Director of Hockey Operations
>



And he doesn't even seem to be related to Clarence. Or maybe he's hiding
that relationship because he doesn't like oiled hair. It's a conspiracy...


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

"peakoil" <peakoil25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:150b1963-f6fd-4dac-b7c8-c750ea5f43bb@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
>
> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
> most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
> peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
> people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
> Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
> increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
> more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
> a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
> (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
> fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>
>
>
> What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
> where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
> each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
> near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
> affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
> water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
> your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
> instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
> plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
> heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
> things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
> to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
> to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
> using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
> converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
> possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
> extend the date.
>
>
>
> The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
> economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
> rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
> world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
> very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
> war are the alternative.
>
>
>
> If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
> country.
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/


Don't believe a word of it.

There is more oil underground that they know what to do with.

Tens of thousands of years worth of oil.

There's more oil in the shale in Colorado and Montana than all the oil that
has been pumped since the beginning of the oil age. And it can be
economically extracted even if oil were selling for only $30.00/barrel.

They are hiding oil fields in Prudho Bay. They are pumping natural gas back
underground just to keep the price where they want it.

We have been programmed to think of oil as a "fossil fuel". And we have
been told that we're using it up faster than it is being made. Also not
true. A recent discovery of oil was carbon dated and found to be only 200
years old. Oil is being made constantly underground. We will never run out.

That.s not to say we shouldn't find alternate energy sources. We must.
It's the only way we will ever be free of the oil and money barons
controlling our lives.

 

"peakoil" <peakoil25@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:150b1963-f6fd-4dac-b7c8-c750ea5f43bb@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> Hello,
>
> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
> most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
> peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
> people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
> Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
> increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
> more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
> a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
> (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
> fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>
>
>
> What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
> where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
> each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
> near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
> affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
> water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
> your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
> instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
> plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
> heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
> things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
> to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
> to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
> using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
> converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
> possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
> extend the date.
>
>
>
> The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
> economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
> rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
> world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
> very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
> war are the alternative.
>
>
>
> If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
> country.
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
> You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/


The sooner we use up all the oil, the sooner we get alternative energy...

John-put the petal to the metal!

 

On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:21:45 -0700, "asadi"
<j-s-baker@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote:

>
>"peakoil" <peakoil25@gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:150b1963-f6fd-4dac-b7c8-c750ea5f43bb@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
>> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
>> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
>> most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
>> peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
>> people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
>> Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
>> increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
>> more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
>> a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
>> (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
>> fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
>> where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
>> each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
>> near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
>> affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
>> water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
>> your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
>> instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
>> plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
>> heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
>> things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
>> to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
>> to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
>> using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
>> converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
>> possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
>> extend the date.
>>
>>
>>
>> The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
>> economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
>> rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
>> world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
>> very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
>> war are the alternative.
>>
>>
>>
>> If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
>> country.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>>
>> You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/
>
>
>The sooner we use up all the oil, the sooner we get alternative energy...
>
>John-put the petal to the metal!
>
I once read somewhere that people in the future will hate us for
burning all the oil rather than saving some for other (many other)
uses.

 

dgk wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:21:45 -0700, "asadi"
> <j-s-baker@sbcglobal.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> "peakoil" <peakoil25@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:150b1963-f6fd-4dac-b7c8-c750ea5f43bb@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>>> Campbell) in 2013 the world oil output is going to peak ? Are you
>>> aware what this does mean for all of us ? We have 4 years from now,
>>> until there will not be enough energy for travelling, heating and the
>>> most important for food for everybody of us. Oil prices will begin to
>>> peak, not 150 USD/barrel, much much higger prices are expected. Many
>>> people will loose their jobs and many of us will begin to starve.
>>> Alternatives will also be more expensive since the demand will
>>> increase astronomically. Alternative energy will also be much much
>>> more expensive, due to the demand and due to much higher costs. Making
>>> a wind turbine cost a lot of energy. Making ethanol cost a lot of oil
>>> (pesticides, insecticides, transportation, production, harvesting,
>>> fertilizers etc.). Making insulations cost also a lot of oil.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the solution ? The only way is to act now, individually. Now,
>>> where the oil prices are still cheap, although there is an increase,
>>> each individual can begin to prepare himself for these hard times in
>>> near future. Insulation of houses, solar cells, which are now more
>>> affordable (in ebay 1 W solar cells cost 1 USD or even less), solar
>>> water heating, solar heating with mirrors reflecting the sunlight to
>>> your home in winter, making your own wind turbine (a lot of
>>> instruction of cheap design can be found in the internet), buying a
>>> plug-in car or a hybrid vehicle, using energy efficient lightning,
>>> heating with heat pumps, making a winter garden etc. are some of the
>>> things each of us can do to prepare himself/herself for hard times and
>>> to save money and energy. There are also ways to save energy and try
>>> to extend the date a little bit by using the car only when necessary,
>>> using the bike instead of your car, using public transportation,
>>> converting the car to methane fueling, saving energy where ever it is
>>> possible, not only in your home also in your work, etc. will help to
>>> extend the date.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The other alternative is to wait until this date, actually the
>>> economical crisis is in its ending phase and the oil prices will again
>>> rise to record highs. But this is nothing compared to the prices when
>>> world oil supplies will deminish 4% yearly. And after this date (2013)
>>> very very hard times may come. Starvation and even worse things like
>>> war are the alternative.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you act now, you will also help to produce new jobs in your
>>> country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>>
>>>
>>> You can find much more on: http://www.peakoil.net/
>>
>> The sooner we use up all the oil, the sooner we get alternative energy...
>>
>> John-put the petal to the metal!
>>
> I once read somewhere that people in the future will hate us for
> burning all the oil rather than saving some for other (many other)
> uses.


They said the same thing about whale oil.

....and mastodon oil, before that.

 

dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in news:ef0235hncpjl5jqqb7vq6jsj3kiedro9lk@
4ax.com:


> I once read somewhere that people in the future will hate us for
> burning all the oil rather than saving some for other (many other)
> uses.



People were using almost none of that oil until the internal combustion
engine came along. Farmers had for countless generations regarded "rock
oil" as a simple nuisance.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

 

He had said peak was in early 1990s at one time.

The US and several Oil Majors suggest around 2030-ish.

 

rick++ wrote:
> He had said peak was in early 1990s at one time.
>
> The US and several Oil Majors suggest around 2030-ish.

What was his call on peak whale oil?

 

Thus spake News <News@Group.Name> :

>Tegger wrote:
>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>> news:TY6dncUxxuWwarLXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>
>>> peakoil wrote:
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>>>> Campbell)
>>>
>>> Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?
>>>
>>
>>
>> You're thinking of CLARENCE Campbell, and he was NHL President, not
>> Commissioner.
>>
>> But when he was President, many players oiled their hair, sometimes into
>> peaks, so maybe there's a connection there...somewhere...
>>
>> Here's a photo of the famous "Rocket" Richard, a player from Campbell's
>> time.
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maurice_richard_profile.jpg>
>> Try and tell me there's no oil in that hair...
>>
>>
>
>
>Yep. The bad old days.
>
>Colin Campbell is currently NHL Senior Executive Vice President (WTF?
>Title inflation?) and Director of Hockey Operations

"Director of Hockey Operations"? As opposed to, say, baseball
operations? Or cocaine trafficing operations?

Title inflation? Nah, ego inflation.

"Hey mister, that's a pretty big title. Can you use it?"
--

- dillon I am not invalid

"Gee, Jimmy,I'm sorry to hear that your girlfriend
turned out to be a Cylon."
-Special Agent Tim McGee, "NCIS"

 

Dillon Pyron wrote:
> Thus spake News <News@Group.Name> :
>
>> Tegger wrote:
>>> News <News@Group.Name> wrote in
>>> news:TY6dncUxxuWwarLXnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:
>>>
>>>> peakoil wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> does everybody know that according to some Oil Geologists (e.g. Colin
>>>>> Campbell)
>>>> Uh, the former NHL Commissioner?
>>>>
>>>
>>> You're thinking of CLARENCE Campbell, and he was NHL President, not
>>> Commissioner.
>>>
>>> But when he was President, many players oiled their hair, sometimes into
>>> peaks, so maybe there's a connection there...somewhere...
>>>
>>> Here's a photo of the famous "Rocket" Richard, a player from Campbell's
>>> time.
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Maurice_richard_profile.jpg>
>>> Try and tell me there's no oil in that hair...
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Yep. The bad old days.
>>
>> Colin Campbell is currently NHL Senior Executive Vice President (WTF?
>> Title inflation?) and Director of Hockey Operations
>
> "Director of Hockey Operations"?

"Senior Executive Vice President"

 

Tegger wrote:
> dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote in news:ef0235hncpjl5jqqb7vq6jsj3kiedro9lk@
> 4ax.com:
>
>
>
>>I once read somewhere that people in the future will hate us for
>>burning all the oil rather than saving some for other (many other)
>>uses.
>
>
>
>
> People were using almost none of that oil until the internal combustion
> engine came along. Farmers had for countless generations regarded "rock
> oil" as a simple nuisance.




Bingo!

It's high time for us to resume a leadership role in alternative
technology NOT because fossil fuels are getting scarcer but because it's
the right thing to do in view of being held hostage by numerous third
rate fiefdoms around the world.

And I'm not talkin' about wind, solar etc. as they currently stand but
for revolutionary technology to equal that of fossil fuels played at the
turn of the 20th century.

But all this requires leadership and there ain't none of that showin' up...

JT