Hi,
Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
Tony

Brian Smith wrote:

> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com...
>
>> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
>>major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
>>control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
>>removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
>>rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
>>install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
>>blade at the dealer.
>
>
> Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I
> was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches.
>

 

Hi,
Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
Tony

Brian Smith wrote:

> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F566F49.FCE7B5F9@hotmail.com...
>
>> Brand name and retail suppliers? Have yet to find a single
>>major aftermarket blade that was anything but a result of cost
>>control management. Most Hondas have had the good wiper arms
>>removed by a gas station, etc who only sell their inferior
>>rubber. Also some are so frustrated by bad blades as to
>>install two wipers on one arm - rather than get the better
>>blade at the dealer.
>
>
> Believe it or not, Motomaster available (obviously) at Canadian Tire. And, I
> was mistaken about the measurements, they are only marked in inches.
>

 

Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob

Tony Hwang wrote:>
> Hi,
> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
> Tony
> y

 

Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob

Tony Hwang wrote:>
> Hi,
> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
> Tony
> y

 

Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
sized - that were too large for the car.

"N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote:
> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
>
> Tony Hwang wrote:>
>> Hi,
>> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
>> Tony
>> y

 

Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
sized - that were too large for the car.

"N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote:
> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
>
> Tony Hwang wrote:>
>> Hi,
>> Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
>> Tony
>> y

 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com...
> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
> sized - that were too large for the car.

The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with quality,
period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. Pardon me for being
blunt, but, that is what you come across as being.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com...
> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
> sized - that were too large for the car.

The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with quality,
period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool. Pardon me for being
blunt, but, that is what you come across as being.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means
being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also
quite appropriate.

Although centimeters verses inches should have no
relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are
made with inferior rubber, that dispose of those better Honda
wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes
don't quite fit. How dare they. After all, all cars are
manufactured in centimeters; not inches. But wiper blades
sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars.
Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that
is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper
blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a
more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that
car - not approximate for every car.

Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they
do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of
about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make
more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should
not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong
relationship between higher performance and reliability.

It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and
52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to
eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first
tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and
often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower
performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway;
periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe
three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to
performance? It tends to.

There should be no relationship between wipers sold in
inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches
more often don't quite fit. There should be no relationship
between engine performance and tire wear. But there is.

In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally
irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda.

Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response.

Brian Smith wrote:
> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com...
>> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
>> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
>> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
>> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
>> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
>> sized - that were too large for the car.
>
> The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with
> quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool.
> Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as
> being.
>
> --
> Brian
> www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means
being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also
quite appropriate.

Although centimeters verses inches should have no
relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are
made with inferior rubber, that dispose of those better Honda
wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes
don't quite fit. How dare they. After all, all cars are
manufactured in centimeters; not inches. But wiper blades
sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars.
Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that
is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper
blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a
more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that
car - not approximate for every car.

Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they
do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of
about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make
more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should
not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong
relationship between higher performance and reliability.

It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and
52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to
eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first
tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and
often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower
performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway;
periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe
three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to
performance? It tends to.

There should be no relationship between wipers sold in
inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches
more often don't quite fit. There should be no relationship
between engine performance and tire wear. But there is.

In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally
irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda.

Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response.

Brian Smith wrote:
> "w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3F588F75.3B592D7A@hotmail.com...
>> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
>> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
>> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
>> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
>> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
>> sized - that were too large for the car.
>
> The units of measurement of the wiper blade has nothing to do with
> quality, period! To think otherwise is to be considered a fool.
> Pardon me for being blunt, but, that is what you come across as
> being.
>
> --
> Brian
> www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F5922E9.A9B06AB9@hotmail.com...
> Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
> honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means
> being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also
> quite appropriate.

Thank you.

> Although centimeters verses inches should have no
> relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are
> made with inferior rubber,

What fact do you have to prove this point?

>that dispose of those better Honda
> wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes
> don't quite fit.

I thought you were talking about the blades, but, here you mention the arms.

>How dare they. After all, all cars are
> manufactured in centimeters; not inches.

They might be sold in parts of a rod, too <g>.

>But wiper blades
> sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars.
> Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that
> is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper
> blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a
> more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that
> car - not approximate for every car.

I truly don't see a problem with the unit of measure. I have had many
vehicles through my life, and have never (to my knowledge) purchased a pair
of wiper blades, that were packaged as being measured in the metric unit.

> Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they
> do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of
> about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make
> more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should
> not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong
> relationship between higher performance and reliability.

Okay, a larger engine doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller engine, to
maintain the same speed.

> It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and
> 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to
> eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first
> tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and
> often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower
> performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway;
> periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe
> three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to
> performance? It tends to.

In this case I would have to say that (in my opinion), the quality of the
tires is the reason that some tires out perform/last longer than others. The
same can be said of the steering components.

> There should be no relationship between wipers sold in
> inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches
> more often don't quite fit.

As I stated above, I have never experienced this.

>There should be no relationship
> between engine performance and tire wear. But there is.

The main relationship could be said to be; how hard the driver of the
vehicle, stands on the go pedal.

> In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally
> irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda.

To a certain point, yes. But, you (I believe it was you) sounded as if,
Honda made the blades themselves.

> Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response.

That's it for me tonight, work in the morning.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

"w_tom" <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3F5922E9.A9B06AB9@hotmail.com...
> Politically correct is polite lying. Blunt is being
> honest. You have not insulted me. You were blunt which means
> being honest. An honorable way to post. Question is also
> quite appropriate.

Thank you.

> Although centimeters verses inches should have no
> relationship, instead many wiper blades sold in inches are
> made with inferior rubber,

What fact do you have to prove this point?

>that dispose of those better Honda
> wiper arms, that last only three months, and that sometimes
> don't quite fit.

I thought you were talking about the blades, but, here you mention the arms.

>How dare they. After all, all cars are
> manufactured in centimeters; not inches.

They might be sold in parts of a rod, too <g>.

>But wiper blades
> sold in inches can then use fewer blades to fit more cars.
> Just because they don't quite fit does not matter. And that
> is the original poster's problem. Sounds like he got wiper
> blades sold in inches. Wiper blades sold in centimeters meet a
> more exacting length. Therefore they will be sold to fit that
> car - not approximate for every car.

I truly don't see a problem with the unit of measure. I have had many
vehicles through my life, and have never (to my knowledge) purchased a pair
of wiper blades, that were packaged as being measured in the metric unit.

> Other numbers should also not mean reliability. But they
> do. For example, cars with higher quality have engines of
> about 70 Hp per liter. Higher failure engines (that also make
> more noise) typically do 52 Hp per liter. Performance should
> not be a measure of reliability. However there is a strong
> relationship between higher performance and reliability.

Okay, a larger engine doesn't have to work as hard as a smaller engine, to
maintain the same speed.

> It even gets more interesting. The low performance 48 and
> 52 Hp per liter engines also are attached to cars that tend to
> eat tires faster. Better cars average 70,000 miles per first
> tire set. Lower performance do more like 40,000 miles - and
> often require periodic wheel alignment. Also those lower
> performance vehicles tend to wander more on the highway;
> periodic steering wheel adjustments necessary after maybe
> three expansion joints. Why would steering be related to
> performance? It tends to.

In this case I would have to say that (in my opinion), the quality of the
tires is the reason that some tires out perform/last longer than others. The
same can be said of the steering components.

> There should be no relationship between wipers sold in
> inches and those in centimeters. But those sold in inches
> more often don't quite fit.

As I stated above, I have never experienced this.

>There should be no relationship
> between engine performance and tire wear. But there is.

The main relationship could be said to be; how hard the driver of the
vehicle, stands on the go pedal.

> In the meantime, Tony Hwang's comment still remain totally
> irrelevant to how wiper blades fit a Honda.

To a certain point, yes. But, you (I believe it was you) sounded as if,
Honda made the blades themselves.

> Looking forward to an honest (blunt) response.

That's it for me tonight, work in the morning.

--
Brian
www.accesswave.ca/~orion

 

Hi,
On any car, only major component is designed and manufactured by
manufacturer. (NGK) spark plug, (Nippon Denso) alternator, starter,
glass, rims, seats, suspension, do you think Honda makes them all?
Parts makers make them per Honda spec. like any other manufacturers.
Then they put Honda stamp. Heard of Exedy clutch? Major Japanese
OEM cluth maker.
Tony


N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:

> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
>
> Tony Hwang wrote:>
>
>>Hi,
>>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
>>Tony
>>y

 

Hi,
On any car, only major component is designed and manufactured by
manufacturer. (NGK) spark plug, (Nippon Denso) alternator, starter,
glass, rims, seats, suspension, do you think Honda makes them all?
Parts makers make them per Honda spec. like any other manufacturers.
Then they put Honda stamp. Heard of Exedy clutch? Major Japanese
OEM cluth maker.
Tony


N.E.Ohio Bob wrote:

> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
>
> Tony Hwang wrote:>
>
>>Hi,
>>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
>>Tony
>>y

 

Hi,
Exactly, when I go buy a set of blades, I take old ones off and
get the same dimension ones. Like anything else, you get what you
pay for. I got an impresson, "Honda blade or else sentiment"
If after market, third party parts are all inferior, how can they
stay in busisness? Again, you get what you pay for.
Tony


w_tom wrote:

> Tony Hwang's comments are totally irrelevant to this
> discussion. Properly sized wiper blades, that also last
> longer, are sold in the Honda dealer. Defined is how to
> identify Honda blades (sold in centimeters) verses inferior
> third party blades (sold in inches) that would not be properly
> sized - that were too large for the car.
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" wrote:
>
>> Just how much of the total car do you think the Honda 'makes' ? bob
>>
>>Tony Hwang wrote:>
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>Gimme a break, do you think Honda is makeing their own blades?
>>>Tony
>>>y