"E. Meyer" <e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BC3D8FBD.4246D%e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 1/28/04 3:17 PM, in article 401826a2.8302061@news.txol.net, "Rex B"
> <NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:52:00 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org>
wrote:
> >
> > |On 1/28/04 9:18 AM, in article bv8jrs$q0h$1@dns3.cae.ca, "Paul Bielec"
> > |<me@no.spam> wrote:
> > |
> > |>
> > |>> The AC comes on because it de-humidifies the air blowing on the
glass.
> > |> This
> > |>> is a good thing. But if you don't want the AC running, try using
the
> > |>> setting for "windshield and feet". It does not automatically turn
on the
> > |>> AC. Also, as others have mentioned, turn off re-circulate. You
have to
> > |> use
> > |>> fresh air to get rid of the fog.
> > |>>
> > |>
> > |> In both the 2001 Civic I used to own and the 2002 CR-V I own now, the
> > |> "windshield and feet" position turns on the AC.
> > |>
> > |>
> > |It doesn't on my 2000 Acura TL or my '96 Odyssey. Must be a new for
'01
> > |thing.
> >
> > Almost all cars since the 1980s at least, run the A/C to dehumidify the
air
> > before warming it. Makes the defroster more efficient.
> >
> > Rex in Fort Worth
>
> Yes - in the defrost position. Not in the one that directs air to both
the
> feet and the windshield.
>

The newer Honda's do turn on the AC for the windshield and feet setting. My
2000 Civic didn't but my 2003 Accord does.

 

"E. Meyer" <e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org> wrote in message
news:BC3D8FBD.4246D%e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org...
> On 1/28/04 3:17 PM, in article 401826a2.8302061@news.txol.net, "Rex B"
> <NOSPAMrex@REMOVEtxol.net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 20:52:00 GMT, "E. Meyer" <e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org>
wrote:
> >
> > |On 1/28/04 9:18 AM, in article bv8jrs$q0h$1@dns3.cae.ca, "Paul Bielec"
> > |<me@no.spam> wrote:
> > |
> > |>
> > |>> The AC comes on because it de-humidifies the air blowing on the
glass.
> > |> This
> > |>> is a good thing. But if you don't want the AC running, try using
the
> > |>> setting for "windshield and feet". It does not automatically turn
on the
> > |>> AC. Also, as others have mentioned, turn off re-circulate. You
have to
> > |> use
> > |>> fresh air to get rid of the fog.
> > |>>
> > |>
> > |> In both the 2001 Civic I used to own and the 2002 CR-V I own now, the
> > |> "windshield and feet" position turns on the AC.
> > |>
> > |>
> > |It doesn't on my 2000 Acura TL or my '96 Odyssey. Must be a new for
'01
> > |thing.
> >
> > Almost all cars since the 1980s at least, run the A/C to dehumidify the
air
> > before warming it. Makes the defroster more efficient.
> >
> > Rex in Fort Worth
>
> Yes - in the defrost position. Not in the one that directs air to both
the
> feet and the windshield.
>

The newer Honda's do turn on the AC for the windshield and feet setting. My
2000 Civic didn't but my 2003 Accord does.

 

"Brian Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote in message
news:BC3C9023.252A%abcs@cmc.net...
> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
windows
> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster, it's
> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas mileage
> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
well.
> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.

I use these window deflectors
http://www.autoanything.com/deflecto...uct.asp?prID=7 I keep the rear
windows cracked 1/4 inch seems to help with circulation.

 

"Brian Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote in message
news:BC3C9023.252A%abcs@cmc.net...
> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
windows
> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster, it's
> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas mileage
> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
well.
> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.

I use these window deflectors
http://www.autoanything.com/deflecto...uct.asp?prID=7 I keep the rear
windows cracked 1/4 inch seems to help with circulation.

 

"Brian Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote in message
news:BC3C9023.252A%abcs@cmc.net...
> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
windows
> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster, it's
> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas mileage
> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
well.
> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.

I use these window deflectors
http://www.autoanything.com/deflecto...uct.asp?prID=7 I keep the rear
windows cracked 1/4 inch seems to help with circulation.

 

"Brian Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote in message
news:BC3C9023.252A%abcs@cmc.net...
> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
windows
> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster, it's
> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas mileage
> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
well.
> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.

I use these window deflectors
http://www.autoanything.com/deflecto...uct.asp?prID=7 I keep the rear
windows cracked 1/4 inch seems to help with circulation.

 

in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:

> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>> outside air.
>>
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
> windows
>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
> it's
>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
> mileage
>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
> well.
>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>
>
Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
The third button, economy, also goes off.

 

in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:

> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>> outside air.
>>
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
> windows
>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
> it's
>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
> mileage
>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
> well.
>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>
>
Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
The third button, economy, also goes off.

 

in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:

> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>> outside air.
>>
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
> windows
>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
> it's
>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
> mileage
>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
> well.
>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>
>
Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
The third button, economy, also goes off.

 

in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:

> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>
>
> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>> outside air.
>>
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>>
>>
>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
> windows
>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
> it's
>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
> mileage
>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
> well.
>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>
>
Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
The third button, economy, also goes off.

 

On 2/1/04 3:28 PM, in article BC42B04D.2B97%abcs@cmc.net, "Brian
Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote:

> in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:
>
>> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
>> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
>> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>>
>>
>> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>>> outside air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
>> windows
>>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
>> it's
>>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
>> mileage
>>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
>> well.
>>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>>
>>
> Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
> recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
> The third button, economy, also goes off.
>

I don't know if this applies to your cars, but .... The manual with my 2002
Pathfinder recommends changing the cabin air filter if the defroster loses
effectiveness in defogging the windows. If your cars are new enough to have
cabin air filters, when was the last time they were changed?

 

On 2/1/04 3:28 PM, in article BC42B04D.2B97%abcs@cmc.net, "Brian
Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote:

> in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:
>
>> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
>> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
>> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>>
>>
>> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>>> outside air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
>> windows
>>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
>> it's
>>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
>> mileage
>>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
>> well.
>>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>>
>>
> Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
> recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
> The third button, economy, also goes off.
>

I don't know if this applies to your cars, but .... The manual with my 2002
Pathfinder recommends changing the cabin air filter if the defroster loses
effectiveness in defogging the windows. If your cars are new enough to have
cabin air filters, when was the last time they were changed?

 

On 2/1/04 3:28 PM, in article BC42B04D.2B97%abcs@cmc.net, "Brian
Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote:

> in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:
>
>> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
>> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
>> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>>
>>
>> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>>> outside air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
>> windows
>>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
>> it's
>>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
>> mileage
>>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
>> well.
>>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>>
>>
> Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
> recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
> The third button, economy, also goes off.
>

I don't know if this applies to your cars, but .... The manual with my 2002
Pathfinder recommends changing the cabin air filter if the defroster loses
effectiveness in defogging the windows. If your cars are new enough to have
cabin air filters, when was the last time they were changed?

 

On 2/1/04 3:28 PM, in article BC42B04D.2B97%abcs@cmc.net, "Brian
Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote:

> in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:
>
>> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
>> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
>> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>>
>>
>> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>>> outside air.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
>> windows
>>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
>> it's
>>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
>> mileage
>>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
>> well.
>>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>>
>>
> Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
> recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
> The third button, economy, also goes off.
>

I don't know if this applies to your cars, but .... The manual with my 2002
Pathfinder recommends changing the cabin air filter if the defroster loses
effectiveness in defogging the windows. If your cars are new enough to have
cabin air filters, when was the last time they were changed?

 

in article BC4519B7.44F3C%e.meyer0SPAM@ieee.org, wrote on 2/3/04 7:26 AM:

> On 2/1/04 3:28 PM, in article BC42B04D.2B97%abcs@cmc.net, "Brian
> Doennebrink" <abcs@cmc.net> wrote:
>
>> in article pV%Rb.10223$Ja2.65824@nnrp1.uunet.ca, wrote on 1/28/04 8:23 PM:
>>
>>> on my 2000 civic SiR the AC comes on automaticaly when i switch it to
>>> feet/window or just window but i can turn it off by pressing the AC button
>>> and it stays off till i switch to the floor/window or vica verca
>>>
>>>
>>> <MikeHunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4017F98C.A0DDCA22@mailcity.com...
>>>> Do your vehicles have a manual recirc mode? If so perhaps
>>>> you are operating in recirc mode, when you should be on
>>>> outside air.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> mike hunt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian Doennebrink wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 2 Hondas with the same problem (an Odyssey and a Civic): the
>>> windows
>>>>> regularly fog up in the fall/winter. When one puts on the defroster,
>>> it's
>>>>> "AC On." If it's like regular air conditioning, this means the gas
>>> mileage
>>>>> drops. I've even tried the "anti-fog" solution, but that doesn't work
>>> well.
>>>>> Any ideas? Please feel free to email me directly.
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, they have recirc. However, when I press the front defroster button, the
>> recirc turns off; I could manually turn it back on if I wanted/needed to.
>> The third button, economy, also goes off.
>>
>
> I don't know if this applies to your cars, but .... The manual with my 2002
> Pathfinder recommends changing the cabin air filter if the defroster loses
> effectiveness in defogging the windows. If your cars are new enough to have
> cabin air filters, when was the last time they were changed?
>
>
Thanks for the idea. I've never changed them. One of the vehicles is old
enough for its filter to probably need changing. Someone else in one of the
groups suggested those items one puts on the top angled part of the front
windows, which allows one to slightly open the window without the rain
getting in (and I've always wondered what those were for...)