Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
08-27-2006 | 02:13 PM
#571
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Re: Car motors will disappear - into the wheels
On 27 Aug 2006 00:41:11 -0700, "Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.siemensvdo.com/press/rele...0608-001-e.htm
>
>" integrate the drivetrain, steering, shock absorbers and brakes
>directly into the wheels of future cars"
Red Bull gives you wings.
>http://www.siemensvdo.com/press/rele...0608-001-e.htm
>
>" integrate the drivetrain, steering, shock absorbers and brakes
>directly into the wheels of future cars"
Red Bull gives you wings.
08-27-2006 | 02:13 PM
#572
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Re: Car motors will disappear - into the wheels
On 27 Aug 2006 00:41:11 -0700, "Gosi" <gosinn@gmail.com> wrote:
>http://www.siemensvdo.com/press/rele...0608-001-e.htm
>
>" integrate the drivetrain, steering, shock absorbers and brakes
>directly into the wheels of future cars"
Red Bull gives you wings.
>http://www.siemensvdo.com/press/rele...0608-001-e.htm
>
>" integrate the drivetrain, steering, shock absorbers and brakes
>directly into the wheels of future cars"
Red Bull gives you wings.
08-28-2006 | 04:44 PM
#573
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
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news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
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08-28-2006 | 04:44 PM
#574
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
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08-28-2006 | 04:44 PM
#575
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
> only 23K on the clock.
>
> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
> Jap car, curious.
>
> mike hunt
>
> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>> John
>>
>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>> than their Japanese competitors.
Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
the entire continent. Now... no more...
Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that it
was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody who
owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not just
because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the first
Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize he
Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77 Chevelle
wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars and
convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting junk -
and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends to get,
well, junked.
I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned its
sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things built in
'79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the US that
year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
--
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08-28-2006 | 07:24 PM
#576
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would know
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
08-28-2006 | 07:24 PM
#577
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would know
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
08-28-2006 | 07:24 PM
#578
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would know
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
mike hunt
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>> only 23K on the clock.
>>
>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>> Jap car, curious.
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>
>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>> John
>>>
>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>
> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>
> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays of
> the entire continent. Now... no more...
>
> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>
> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
> to get, well, junked.
>
> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>
08-29-2006 | 04:08 PM
#579
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
In article <12epiurcqem6cf5@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
08-29-2006 | 04:08 PM
#580
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
In article <12epiurcqem6cf5@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
08-29-2006 | 04:08 PM
#581
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Posts: n/a
Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
In article <12epiurcqem6cf5@corp.supernews.com>,
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
"The Bonesman" <Bones@server3.net> wrote:
> Those cars end up in the junk yards, lets face it, they were not purchased
> for their classic styling.
Yes they were driven into the ground, also parts become harder to find
as they were then made in Japan and a supply after 10+ years didn't
exist or was very expensive.
My experiences:
1) Honda Civic 70s early model- rad cap after 10+- yrs was $50+.
2) Datsun 510 series- very thin and poorly prepared body metal that
rusted out very quickly.
Very nice car while it lasted though.
3) VW Beetle- very well built and rust proofed body, lasted forever if
one had the time for acceleration and $s for frequent new mufflers.
08-29-2006 | 05:59 PM
#582
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:qiidnXMrF8Cp5m7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
news:qiidnXMrF8Cp5m7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:qiidnXMrF8Cp5m7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
news:qiidnXMrF8Cp5m7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>>
>
>
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Re: Where did all the old Japs car go?
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:qiidnXMrF8Cp5m7ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
> news:44f34ade$0$8846$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
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> Obviously you do not attend many old cars shows. If you did you would
> know which cars are there and which are obviously missing LOL
>
>
> mike hunt
And, obviously, you don't have a clue.
> "DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote in message
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>> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>> news:FjudnVk0p6zvg0jZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>>> Really? I was at a major old cars show today. Loads of small British,
>>> German, Italian and French cars from the sixties among the Corvairs,
>>> Falcons, Valliants, Nash Ramblers, Hudson Jets, Henry Js, Studebaker
>>> Larks, ****** and even some Chevettes, but only ONE Jap car, a 240Z with
>>> only 23K on the clock.
>>>
>>> What ever happened to all those 'superior;' Jap small cars, they're sure
>>> not still on the road. There were more than 30 VW bugs, nearly 40
>>> Nash/Hudson/AMC Metropolitan coupes and convertibles and a half dozen
>>> CROSLEYS for goodness sake and a couple Isettas but only ONE low mileage
>>> Jap car, curious.
>>>
>>> mike hunt
>>>
>>> "Lee Florack" <lflorack@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:4t1Bg.29091$1Z5.28403@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>>
>>>>> Overall, their problem is they are too slow in responding to the
>>>>> marketplace and seem to clueless in designing cars with appeal.
>>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> and that their cars have been and in some cases are still less reliable
>>>> than their Japanese competitors.
>>
>> Where are all the old Ford Granadas? Fairmonts? Chevy Citations? Chevy
>> Monzas? Plymout Reliants?
>>
>> There used to be fleets of these things, roaming wild on the expressays
>> of the entire continent. Now... no more...
>>
>> Back in 1973 - and later, to some extent, a Japanese car was so rare that
>> it was just about a curiosity. I remember the first time I met somebody
>> who owned a Subaru in 1972 or so - it was unique in my experience, not
>> just because it was the first Subaru I'd ever seen but because it was the
>> first Japanese car I'd ever seen. Until that time, I didn't even realize
>> he Japanese made cars (I hadn't seen "You Only Live Twice").
>>
>> So, how often do we find a '72 Gran Torino still on the road? '77
>> Chevelle wagon? '69 Ford Country Squire? Performance cars, luxury cars
>> and convertibles tend to keep going longer but the cheap uninteresting
>> junk - and Detroit made lots and lots of cheap uninteresting junk - tends
>> to get, well, junked.
>>
>> I saw a '79 or '80 Pontiac Sunbird the other day. I'd forgotten these
>> things had even existed and my brother-in-law had owned one and I owned
>> its sibling, the Chevy Monza. There were probably 20 of these things
>> built in '79 for every Crown or whatever Toyota managed to sell into the
>> US that year. I've seen one. Where are the rest?
>>
>>
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