Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
#196
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
#197
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when, to
>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything efficiently
>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to the
>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around two
>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>A hospital bed a
>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs for
>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs to
>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
could make it worse.
>
>mike hunt
>
>
>" dbu," <howard@dynoadorky.com> wrote in message
>news:howard-2D59DE.03331804082006@news-rdr-03.rdc-kc.rr.com...
>> In article <91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com>,
>> Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits,
>>> >including
>>> >healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>> >that
>>> >national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>>
>>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>>> has it.
>>
>>
>> I hope IF it comes down to national health care that someone explains
>> how it will work, how it will be funded and how much we'll have to pay
>> BEFORE it is voted on. To this day I do not have a clue as to how this
>> monster would work. Do even any of the lawmakers have a clue. It gets
>> batted around and everybody rah-rah's it without knowing the intimate
>> details. Scary.
>> --
>>
>
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
#200
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
#201
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 09:33:25 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
<mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>Costs less? You have to be kidding, right?
>
>mike hunt
You must have your head pretty far up something if you haven't heard
that:
1. The US is virtually(?) the only industrialized nation that does
not have universal nationalized health care
2. The US has the highest per capita health care costs in the world
by far.
3. The overall quality of US health care is mediocre.
4. All the above are getting worse.
Read up:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0712140821.htm
The United States continues to spend significantly more on health care
than any country in the world. In 2005, Americans spent 53 percent per
capita more than the next highest country, Switzerland, and 140
percent above the median industrialized country, according to new
research from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. The
study authors analyzed whether two possible reasons - supply
constraints and malpractice litigation - could explain the difference
in health care costs. They found that neither factor accounted for a
large portion of the U.S. spending differential. The study is featured
in the July/August 2005 issue of the journal Health Affairs.
The study authors reviewed health care spending data on 30 countries
from the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD)
for the year 2003. U.S. citizens spent $5,267 per capita on health
care. The country with the next highest per capita expenditure,
Switzerland, spent $3,446 per capita. The median OECD country spent
$2,193 per capita.
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news0...al_errors.html
http://www.economist.com/world/displ...ory_id=5436968
http://dll.umaine.edu/ble/U.S.%20HCweb.pdf
http://www.voanews.com/english/archi...TOKEN=46366533
http://www.theolympian.com/apps/pbcs...ING03/60502055
>
>
>
>"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>news:91e5d290gr6csm2gqvme0qro77dnif0imj@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 15:08:20 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
>> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Hondas employees in the US do not get as good a wage, benefits, including
>>>healthcare, or pensions as do GMs employees. Surely you do not believe
>>>that
>>>national health coverage will be free, do you?
>>
>> No, but it costs a lot less than health care in the US and everyone
>> has it.
>
#202
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
#203
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
#204
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Posts: n/a
Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
In article <jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com>,
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
WHO THE CARES?
Take it to email or an appropriate newsgroup.
Just go to alt.autos.toyota if you want to see what you're turning this
previously fine newgroup into.
#205
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Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
You think the government can not make things worse? You have never been in
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
#206
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
You think the government can not make things worse? You have never been in
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
#207
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Posts: n/a
Re: Who can afford 'free' medical care?
You think the government can not make things worse? You have never been in
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
a VA hospital or seen by a VA doctor. **** poor doctors and second rate
coverage if you can even get into a Hospital or find a doctor
You are confused Medicare sets the rates charged by hospitals and doctors in
a given area, and sets them high. I don't know what private coverage you
have but my coverage arranges with doctors and hospital to pay far less than
Medicare allows per person in the area. The reason Medicare pays five
times as much as the VA for the same coverage, is Medicare payments to
hospital are a round about way to reimburse hospitals and doctors for free
emergency care they must provide, under the Hill Burton Act, for the
indigent.. The only was a doctor can charge you less than the Medicare rate
is for him not to treat Medicare patients
Paying for drugs was never a problem for me but I now spend around $250 less
a month for my meds, since the drug law went into effect, and I do not buy
part 'D'. The sad part is, even though I never applied for SS, because of
the Medicare law I can not even buy private coverage unless I sign up and
pay for part 'B.'
Because of all the old folks in Florida, they get all of their drugs free
and need not pay a monthly premium.
mike hunt
"Gordon McGrew" <RgEmMcOgVrEew@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:jae7d2tms4pd3krp56nnhv956aa6ghlui7@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:22:39 -0400, "Mike Hunter"
> <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote:
>
>>Just as with everything else you buy, YOU will pay the price. The
>>difference is now you can pick and chose what and were you buy, what you
>>buy. If the government takes over they will tell you what to pay and take
>>if from you in taxes. They will tell you to whom you must go, and when,
>>to
>>receive your 'Free' care. Has the government EVER run anything
>>efficiently
>>that you know of? Look at Medicare. When presented it was estimated to
>>cost a certain amount annually in ten years. Those that were opposed to
>>the
>>government getting into healthcare said it will cost twice that much, they
>>were wrong. It cost five times as much. Before Medicare it cost around
>>two
>>hours pay to go to a doctor, now it cost six hours pay.
>>A hospital bed a
>>days wages, now you can not get a bed for a weeks wages. Look at drugs
>>for
>>seniors. Even with a competitive system to keep cost down, cost of drugs
>>to
>>the individual are still going up. Imagine what will happen if everyone,
>>including the rich and super rich can get free drugs and healthcare?
>>mike hunt
>>
>
> But medicare pays less than private insurance. And private insurance
> pays less than you do with no insurance. How the hell can it be
> Medicare's fault that the price is high. The fact is that Medicare
> runs a very tight ship. (Except for Bush's welfare subsidy to Big
> Pharma masquerading as a drug plan for seniors.)
>
>
> Yep, what we have now is the most expensive health care in the world.
> When you look at it that way, hard to imagine that the government
> could make it worse.
>
#208
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Only in your small world LOL
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>
> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>
> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>
#209
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Only in your small world LOL
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>
> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>
> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>
#210
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Re: Who will be the US "Big 3" in 2016?
Only in your small world LOL
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
>
> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
>
mike hunt
"Bob Palmer" <jenbobkatelyn@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:8q6dneHhIdxg707ZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:9yydnZYLNvdg4U_ZUSdV9g@ptd.net...
>> Build cars like the Mustang and Corvette and sell them for $10,000 LOL
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> That is just about how much those 2 models are worth.
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