Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

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>>
>
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>
> 300K ? I love it!
>


Current mileage is 290,483. At the pace I drive, I figure it will roll over
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The local Acura dealer tells me they have two vehicles that come in which
have higher mileage than me: A '97 1.7 EL with 435,000 miles, and some
other car that has about 375K. I don't know the year or model. Original
engines in both. Both still pass emissions.



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Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 11, 10:03 am, "void.no.spam....@gmail.com"
<void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?

My Toyota dealer has their std maintenance (15K, 30K, 60K...) prices
clearly posted behind the service desk. My Honda dealer offers a 1-
page list with the same info. A 10% discount means 10% off the posted
prices. They also will do 10% off any additional work they might
suggest; and they always suggest something additional. Nearly any work
they suggest will be included in their OEM shop guides that also list
the labor time for the work. They charge by those guidelines, that
provide PLENTY of time to do the work (and go for lunch and/or train
another tech. in the procedure). So, no, they don't jack up the
already excessive labor prices.

Gotta luv 'em.

On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
profit.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 11, 10:03 am, "void.no.spam....@gmail.com"
<void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?

My Toyota dealer has their std maintenance (15K, 30K, 60K...) prices
clearly posted behind the service desk. My Honda dealer offers a 1-
page list with the same info. A 10% discount means 10% off the posted
prices. They also will do 10% off any additional work they might
suggest; and they always suggest something additional. Nearly any work
they suggest will be included in their OEM shop guides that also list
the labor time for the work. They charge by those guidelines, that
provide PLENTY of time to do the work (and go for lunch and/or train
another tech. in the procedure). So, no, they don't jack up the
already excessive labor prices.

Gotta luv 'em.

On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
profit.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 11, 10:03 am, "void.no.spam....@gmail.com"
<void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote:
> What does it mean if a dealer tells you they will give you 10% off
> maintenance? Will they really give you the discount, or will they
> jack up the price by 10% so that it doesn't mean anything?

My Toyota dealer has their std maintenance (15K, 30K, 60K...) prices
clearly posted behind the service desk. My Honda dealer offers a 1-
page list with the same info. A 10% discount means 10% off the posted
prices. They also will do 10% off any additional work they might
suggest; and they always suggest something additional. Nearly any work
they suggest will be included in their OEM shop guides that also list
the labor time for the work. They charge by those guidelines, that
provide PLENTY of time to do the work (and go for lunch and/or train
another tech. in the procedure). So, no, they don't jack up the
already excessive labor prices.

Gotta luv 'em.

On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
profit.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
<snip for clarity>
>
> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> profit.
>

unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
<snip for clarity>
>
> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> profit.
>

unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
<snip for clarity>
>
> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> profit.
>

unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
>
> <snip for clarity>
>
>
>
> > On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> > sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> > profit.
>
> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
unprofitable practice.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
>
> <snip for clarity>
>
>
>
> > On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> > sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> > profit.
>
> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
unprofitable practice.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
>
> <snip for clarity>
>
>
>
> > On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> > sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> > profit.
>
> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.

While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
unprofitable practice.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ACAR wrote:
>>
>> <snip for clarity>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
>>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
>>> profit.
>> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
>> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
>> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
>> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> unprofitable practice.
>

but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
not the dealer.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ACAR wrote:
>>
>> <snip for clarity>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
>>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
>>> profit.
>> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
>> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
>> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
>> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> unprofitable practice.
>

but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
not the dealer.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

ACAR wrote:
> On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> ACAR wrote:
>>
>> <snip for clarity>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
>>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
>>> profit.
>> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
>> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
>> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
>> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> unprofitable practice.
>

but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
not the dealer.

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 14, 11:57 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> ACAR wrote:
>
> >> <snip for clarity>
>
> >>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> >>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> >>> profit.
> >> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> >> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> >> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> >> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> > While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> > 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> > unprofitable practice.
>
> but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
> it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
> not the dealer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Honda dealership - is that better?

Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
 

On Jul 14, 11:57 am, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> ACAR wrote:
> > On Jul 13, 9:35 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> >> ACAR wrote:
>
> >> <snip for clarity>
>
> >>> On the other hand, your local dealership can't make it off new car
> >>> sales. They need a thriving used car and service business to turn a
> >>> profit.
> >> unless a dealer is utterly incompetent managing their franchise, that
> >> simply can't be true. if you check company accounts for fleet
> >> purchases, cars are bought in volume for prices as low as 50% of msrp.
> >> if an end user can buy them that cheap, you can bet the dealer can too.
>
> > While I've seen domestics that cheap, I haven't seen Hondas sold at
> > 50%. And notice how the domestics are trying to get out of that
> > unprofitable practice.
>
> but you said "your local dealership can't make it off new car sales".
> it's the manufacturer that takes it in the shorts from deep discounting,
> not the dealer.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Honda dealership - is that better?