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Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:
> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:139aocht736fofb@news.supernews.com: > > <top posting corrected> > > > > > > > > > "Tegger" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote in message > >news:Xns996AB8C1B30D6tegger@207.14.116.130... > >> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1399tus8b9ugl52 > >> @news.supernews.com: > >>> "void.no.spam....@gmail.com" <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote > > >>>> and tell them to do whatever kind of maintenance is necessary. > > > >>> You my friend are a service managers wet dream! > > >> He didn't say he told them to perform whatever REPAIRS are necessary, > >> just maintenance. What he's doing is GOOD. > > > I don't agree. Most dealerships go way above and beyond what is in > > the "What is needed" schedule. > > True, which does no harm except to make your wallet a bit thinner and > your car more reliable. > > I myself go above and beyond the official maintenance schedule and have > done so for 16 years. The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is > wonderfully reliable. > > > > > I would go as far as to agree to everything that IS on the schedule. > > Even that is crap sometime. I learned when at 60k on an accord years > > ago, they changed the drain plug. There was nothing wrong with it, > > but it was on the schedule. This was YEARS ago. > > Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of > TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. > > -- > Tegger The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ replacements during oil changes. So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little worn and relaced it. I replaced mine on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the maintenance schedule to replace it. |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:139aocht736fofb@news.supernews.com: >> >> <top posting corrected> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Tegger" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote in message >>> news:Xns996AB8C1B30D6tegger@207.14.116.130... >>>> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1399tus8b9ugl52 >>>> @news.supernews.com: >>>>> "void.no.spam....@gmail.com" <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> and tell them to do whatever kind of maintenance is necessary. > >>>>> You my friend are a service managers wet dream! >>>> He didn't say he told them to perform whatever REPAIRS are necessary, >>>> just maintenance. What he's doing is GOOD. >>> I don't agree. Most dealerships go way above and beyond what is in >>> the "What is needed" schedule. >> True, which does no harm except to make your wallet a bit thinner and >> your car more reliable. >> >> I myself go above and beyond the official maintenance schedule and have >> done so for 16 years. The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is >> wonderfully reliable. >> >> >> >>> I would go as far as to agree to everything that IS on the schedule. >>> Even that is crap sometime. I learned when at 60k on an accord years >>> ago, they changed the drain plug. There was nothing wrong with it, >>> but it was on the schedule. This was YEARS ago. >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of >> TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> -- >> Tegger > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > eh? how are you damaging it??? if you're using the correct wrench, that's not going to happen. |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:139aocht736fofb@news.supernews.com: >> >> <top posting corrected> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Tegger" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote in message >>> news:Xns996AB8C1B30D6tegger@207.14.116.130... >>>> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1399tus8b9ugl52 >>>> @news.supernews.com: >>>>> "void.no.spam....@gmail.com" <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> and tell them to do whatever kind of maintenance is necessary. > >>>>> You my friend are a service managers wet dream! >>>> He didn't say he told them to perform whatever REPAIRS are necessary, >>>> just maintenance. What he's doing is GOOD. >>> I don't agree. Most dealerships go way above and beyond what is in >>> the "What is needed" schedule. >> True, which does no harm except to make your wallet a bit thinner and >> your car more reliable. >> >> I myself go above and beyond the official maintenance schedule and have >> done so for 16 years. The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is >> wonderfully reliable. >> >> >> >>> I would go as far as to agree to everything that IS on the schedule. >>> Even that is crap sometime. I learned when at 60k on an accord years >>> ago, they changed the drain plug. There was nothing wrong with it, >>> but it was on the schedule. This was YEARS ago. >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of >> TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> -- >> Tegger > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > eh? how are you damaging it??? if you're using the correct wrench, that's not going to happen. |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:139aocht736fofb@news.supernews.com: >> >> <top posting corrected> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> "Tegger" <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote in message >>> news:Xns996AB8C1B30D6tegger@207.14.116.130... >>>> "G-Man" <g_fore...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:1399tus8b9ugl52 >>>> @news.supernews.com: >>>>> "void.no.spam....@gmail.com" <void.no.spam....@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> and tell them to do whatever kind of maintenance is necessary. > >>>>> You my friend are a service managers wet dream! >>>> He didn't say he told them to perform whatever REPAIRS are necessary, >>>> just maintenance. What he's doing is GOOD. >>> I don't agree. Most dealerships go way above and beyond what is in >>> the "What is needed" schedule. >> True, which does no harm except to make your wallet a bit thinner and >> your car more reliable. >> >> I myself go above and beyond the official maintenance schedule and have >> done so for 16 years. The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is >> wonderfully reliable. >> >> >> >>> I would go as far as to agree to everything that IS on the schedule. >>> Even that is crap sometime. I learned when at 60k on an accord years >>> ago, they changed the drain plug. There was nothing wrong with it, >>> but it was on the schedule. This was YEARS ago. >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of >> TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> -- >> Tegger > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > eh? how are you damaging it??? if you're using the correct wrench, that's not going to happen. |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
> The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is
> wonderfully reliable. > You Tegger are now MY wet dream :-) 300K ? I love it! G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
> The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is
> wonderfully reliable. > You Tegger are now MY wet dream :-) 300K ? I love it! G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
> The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is
> wonderfully reliable. > You Tegger are now MY wet dream :-) 300K ? I love it! G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
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> > Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of > TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. > I don't care who you believe. I am old :-) This was back around 1982 or so. I was young. Did I see it in writing? No, but it is what I was told. This is when I made the decision to do my own work. Up to a point. I'm not going to do a timing belt/water pump change, but I do most of the other maintenance. BTW, I just got a Prius after owning nothing but Hondas for the last 27 years. This is going to be a learning curve. I got it just for my commute. I still have my '05 Pilot and my '06 Accord V-6 NAV. The Prius is a fun little car. I'm averaging 55 Mpg. G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
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> > Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of > TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. > I don't care who you believe. I am old :-) This was back around 1982 or so. I was young. Did I see it in writing? No, but it is what I was told. This is when I made the decision to do my own work. Up to a point. I'm not going to do a timing belt/water pump change, but I do most of the other maintenance. BTW, I just got a Prius after owning nothing but Hondas for the last 27 years. This is going to be a learning curve. I got it just for my commute. I still have my '05 Pilot and my '06 Accord V-6 NAV. The Prius is a fun little car. I'm averaging 55 Mpg. G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
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> > Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside of > TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. > I don't care who you believe. I am old :-) This was back around 1982 or so. I was young. Did I see it in writing? No, but it is what I was told. This is when I made the decision to do my own work. Up to a point. I'm not going to do a timing belt/water pump change, but I do most of the other maintenance. BTW, I just got a Prius after owning nothing but Hondas for the last 27 years. This is going to be a learning curve. I got it just for my commute. I still have my '05 Pilot and my '06 Accord V-6 NAV. The Prius is a fun little car. I'm averaging 55 Mpg. G-Man |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1184241619.269445.237550@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com: > On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside >> of TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> >> > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. Not at all. If not abused, the drain bolt is good for the life of the car. The drain pan hole threads, on the other hand, have a tendency to expand and make the plug fit loosely, eventually stripping the assembly entirely. A new plug can slightly extend the useful life of damaged oil pan threads just because its thread peaks haven't worn off yet. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. The hex head never wears out, unless somebody was inept or used the wrong tool and rounded it off. > I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > I change my oil six to eight times per year, and have done so for thirteen years. This is a total of 78 to 104 removals and installations of the drain bolt. The same drain bolt has been in use for those same 13 years and still torques up to 30 ft lbs with no leaks. The hex is perfect. Torque spec is actually 33 ft lbs, but I go a bit light at 30. This in order to be gentle on the pan threads. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1184241619.269445.237550@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com: > On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside >> of TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> >> > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. Not at all. If not abused, the drain bolt is good for the life of the car. The drain pan hole threads, on the other hand, have a tendency to expand and make the plug fit loosely, eventually stripping the assembly entirely. A new plug can slightly extend the useful life of damaged oil pan threads just because its thread peaks haven't worn off yet. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. The hex head never wears out, unless somebody was inept or used the wrong tool and rounded it off. > I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > I change my oil six to eight times per year, and have done so for thirteen years. This is a total of 78 to 104 removals and installations of the drain bolt. The same drain bolt has been in use for those same 13 years and still torques up to 30 ft lbs with no leaks. The hex is perfect. Torque spec is actually 33 ft lbs, but I go a bit light at 30. This in order to be gentle on the pan threads. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
Chief_Billy@hotmail.com wrote in
news:1184241619.269445.237550@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com: > On Jul 11, 7:23 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote: >> >> Replacing a drain plug is NEVER on ANY "maintenance schedule" outside >> of TSB or recall replacement. I do not believe you. >> >> >> > > The OIL drain plug can require replacement after several removal/ > replacements during oil changes. Not at all. If not abused, the drain bolt is good for the life of the car. The drain pan hole threads, on the other hand, have a tendency to expand and make the plug fit loosely, eventually stripping the assembly entirely. A new plug can slightly extend the useful life of damaged oil pan threads just because its thread peaks haven't worn off yet. > So, perhaps the mechanic noted that the hex head was becoming a little > worn and relaced it. The hex head never wears out, unless somebody was inept or used the wrong tool and rounded it off. > I replaced mine > on my 2001 Civic a few years ago for that reason, and am about to > replace it again. But I change my oil 4 times per year > due to the high miles I drive (110/day commute). But it is NOT on the > maintenance schedule to replace it. > I change my oil six to eight times per year, and have done so for thirteen years. This is a total of 78 to 104 removals and installations of the drain bolt. The same drain bolt has been in use for those same 13 years and still torques up to 30 ft lbs with no leaks. The hex is perfect. Torque spec is actually 33 ft lbs, but I go a bit light at 30. This in order to be gentle on the pan threads. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:139cci8g9pfi6bc@news.supernews.com: >> The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is >> wonderfully reliable. >> > > You Tegger are now MY wet dream :-) Down boy! > > 300K ? I love it! > Current mileage is 290,483. At the pace I drive, I figure it will roll over by about late winter or early spring. I post my odometer here: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/mileage.jpg The local Acura dealer tells me they have two vehicles that come in which have higher mileage than me: A '97 1.7 EL with 435,000 miles, and some other car that has about 375K. I don't know the year or model. Original engines in both. Both still pass emissions. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: When a dealer offers 10% off maintenance?
"G-Man" <g_foreman@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:139cci8g9pfi6bc@news.supernews.com: >> The car now has nearly 300,000 miles on it and is >> wonderfully reliable. >> > > You Tegger are now MY wet dream :-) Down boy! > > 300K ? I love it! > Current mileage is 290,483. At the pace I drive, I figure it will roll over by about late winter or early spring. I post my odometer here: http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/mileage.jpg The local Acura dealer tells me they have two vehicles that come in which have higher mileage than me: A '97 1.7 EL with 435,000 miles, and some other car that has about 375K. I don't know the year or model. Original engines in both. Both still pass emissions. -- Tegger The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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