Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.


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Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.


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Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.


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Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.


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Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"GhettoTaurus" <GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com...
>
> The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
> downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
> could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
> car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
> they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
> common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
> spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
> don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
> of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
> makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.

Tell that to John Force, et al.

If gay rice burners go 340 mph in under 5 seconds, I want a gay rice burner!

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"GhettoTaurus" <GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com...
>
> The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
> downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
> could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
> car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
> they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
> common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
> spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
> don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
> of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
> makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.

Tell that to John Force, et al.

If gay rice burners go 340 mph in under 5 seconds, I want a gay rice burner!

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"GhettoTaurus" <GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com...
>
> The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
> downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
> could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
> car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
> they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
> common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
> spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
> don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
> of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
> makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.

Tell that to John Force, et al.

If gay rice burners go 340 mph in under 5 seconds, I want a gay rice burner!

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"GhettoTaurus" <GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GhettoTaurus.yvnsz@realcaraudio.com...
>
> The spoilers on Indy 5000 race cars provide 3 times the car's weight in
> downforce at 200 miles per hour. So... if they wanted to, the drive
> could drive upside down in a tunnel, and the downforce would make the
> car "stick" to the top :). Also, about front wheel drive cars, usually
> they're fitted with Front spoilers, which also exist, but are less
> common and noticable. I also think its funny that people put on huge
> spoilers when they drag race, when accually, considering that they
> don't usually have curves in drag racing, and the added air resistance
> of the spoiler accually makes the car go slower....... but...... it
> makes the car LOOK faster...... gay rice burners.

Tell that to John Force, et al.

If gay rice burners go 340 mph in under 5 seconds, I want a gay rice burner!

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMMDb.568028$Tr4.1537012@attbi_s03...
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I
told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

nope, not an actual wind tunnel. White smoke is used, and thus is a flat
colour. For that reason, silver tends NOT to be used as a test object
colour. Oh, and there would be no 'mood lighting' either. We can't see the
smoke if its not lit. finally, little hint - look at the radio antenna - its
not even bent. The curves are suggestive of aprox 80mph, judging by lamina
flow, and an antenna would be bent by it.

>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon
fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's
truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow
for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
>
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMMDb.568028$Tr4.1537012@attbi_s03...
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I
told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

nope, not an actual wind tunnel. White smoke is used, and thus is a flat
colour. For that reason, silver tends NOT to be used as a test object
colour. Oh, and there would be no 'mood lighting' either. We can't see the
smoke if its not lit. finally, little hint - look at the radio antenna - its
not even bent. The curves are suggestive of aprox 80mph, judging by lamina
flow, and an antenna would be bent by it.

>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon
fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's
truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow
for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
>
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMMDb.568028$Tr4.1537012@attbi_s03...
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I
told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

nope, not an actual wind tunnel. White smoke is used, and thus is a flat
colour. For that reason, silver tends NOT to be used as a test object
colour. Oh, and there would be no 'mood lighting' either. We can't see the
smoke if its not lit. finally, little hint - look at the radio antenna - its
not even bent. The curves are suggestive of aprox 80mph, judging by lamina
flow, and an antenna would be bent by it.

>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon
fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's
truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow
for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
>
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:oMMDb.568028$Tr4.1537012@attbi_s03...
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I
told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

nope, not an actual wind tunnel. White smoke is used, and thus is a flat
colour. For that reason, silver tends NOT to be used as a test object
colour. Oh, and there would be no 'mood lighting' either. We can't see the
smoke if its not lit. finally, little hint - look at the radio antenna - its
not even bent. The curves are suggestive of aprox 80mph, judging by lamina
flow, and an antenna would be bent by it.

>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon
fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's
truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow
for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
>
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

I did post a reply to this a good week and a bit ago, but here goes again.

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qdNDb.372000$Dw6.1211191@attbi_s02...
> You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
> and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
> drive car.

All WRC class A cars are 4 wheel drive. have been since the mid-80s. The
wings you see on the focus (and the escort before it) are also standard
items on the production cosworth versions. (those are the fastest production
cars ford makes iirc) Be it the Sierra, Escort, or Focus (European versions,
of course, Americans have to make do with hugely underpowered versions, or
the ugly and slow Mustang)

>
> Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have
it
> on the car.

Rally cars also tend to have the spoilers for slight drag, and
counterbalance purposes. Colin McRae's exit from the 2002 austrailian rally
makes this reason lain. (if you didn't know, he took one of the jumps a bit
too fast (maybe 80-90) spent too much time in the air, and the nose dropped
too far, meaning he smashed the intercoolers.

Rallying is an imprecise art. Cars have had large wings on them for attempts
at beter grip since at least the mid-70s, as I can still remember the large
wing on the back of my fathers class N Ford Maxi. Everything is about grip,
because there is so little available.

>
>
> "Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> > Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> > beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down
force
> > on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear
> end
> > traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
> >
> > Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> > other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> > immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my
rear
> > tire pressure accordingly to help out.
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel
drive
> > > car, though?
> > >
> > > Fluffy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought
the
> > new
> > > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at
the
> > gas
> > > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
> > anything?
> > > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion
it
> > > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.
> I
> > told
> > > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable
carbon
> > fiber
> > > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that
it's
> > truly
> > > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air
> flow
> > for
> > > > down force.
> > > >
> > > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's
> > practical
> > > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous
> that
> > I
> > > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > > >
> > > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or
bright
> > > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you
"Look
> At
> > > > > ME !"
> > > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.
> bob
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers
> > going
> > > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do
I
> > > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > bc
> >
> >
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

I did post a reply to this a good week and a bit ago, but here goes again.

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qdNDb.372000$Dw6.1211191@attbi_s02...
> You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
> and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
> drive car.

All WRC class A cars are 4 wheel drive. have been since the mid-80s. The
wings you see on the focus (and the escort before it) are also standard
items on the production cosworth versions. (those are the fastest production
cars ford makes iirc) Be it the Sierra, Escort, or Focus (European versions,
of course, Americans have to make do with hugely underpowered versions, or
the ugly and slow Mustang)

>
> Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have
it
> on the car.

Rally cars also tend to have the spoilers for slight drag, and
counterbalance purposes. Colin McRae's exit from the 2002 austrailian rally
makes this reason lain. (if you didn't know, he took one of the jumps a bit
too fast (maybe 80-90) spent too much time in the air, and the nose dropped
too far, meaning he smashed the intercoolers.

Rallying is an imprecise art. Cars have had large wings on them for attempts
at beter grip since at least the mid-70s, as I can still remember the large
wing on the back of my fathers class N Ford Maxi. Everything is about grip,
because there is so little available.

>
>
> "Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> > Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> > beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down
force
> > on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear
> end
> > traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
> >
> > Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> > other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> > immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my
rear
> > tire pressure accordingly to help out.
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel
drive
> > > car, though?
> > >
> > > Fluffy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought
the
> > new
> > > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at
the
> > gas
> > > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
> > anything?
> > > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion
it
> > > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.
> I
> > told
> > > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable
carbon
> > fiber
> > > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that
it's
> > truly
> > > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air
> flow
> > for
> > > > down force.
> > > >
> > > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's
> > practical
> > > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous
> that
> > I
> > > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > > >
> > > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or
bright
> > > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you
"Look
> At
> > > > > ME !"
> > > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.
> bob
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers
> > going
> > > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do
I
> > > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > bc
> >
> >
>
>

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 

I did post a reply to this a good week and a bit ago, but here goes again.

"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:qdNDb.372000$Dw6.1211191@attbi_s02...
> You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
> and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
> drive car.

All WRC class A cars are 4 wheel drive. have been since the mid-80s. The
wings you see on the focus (and the escort before it) are also standard
items on the production cosworth versions. (those are the fastest production
cars ford makes iirc) Be it the Sierra, Escort, or Focus (European versions,
of course, Americans have to make do with hugely underpowered versions, or
the ugly and slow Mustang)

>
> Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have
it
> on the car.

Rally cars also tend to have the spoilers for slight drag, and
counterbalance purposes. Colin McRae's exit from the 2002 austrailian rally
makes this reason lain. (if you didn't know, he took one of the jumps a bit
too fast (maybe 80-90) spent too much time in the air, and the nose dropped
too far, meaning he smashed the intercoolers.

Rallying is an imprecise art. Cars have had large wings on them for attempts
at beter grip since at least the mid-70s, as I can still remember the large
wing on the back of my fathers class N Ford Maxi. Everything is about grip,
because there is so little available.

>
>
> "Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> > Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> > beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down
force
> > on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear
> end
> > traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
> >
> > Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> > other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> > immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my
rear
> > tire pressure accordingly to help out.
> >
> > "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel
drive
> > > car, though?
> > >
> > > Fluffy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought
the
> > new
> > > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at
the
> > gas
> > > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do
> > anything?
> > > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion
it
> > > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.
> I
> > told
> > > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > > >
> > > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > > >
> > > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable
carbon
> > fiber
> > > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that
it's
> > truly
> > > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air
> flow
> > for
> > > > down force.
> > > >
> > > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's
> > practical
> > > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous
> that
> > I
> > > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > > >
> > > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or
bright
> > > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you
"Look
> At
> > > > > ME !"
> > > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.
> bob
> > > > >
> > > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers
> > going
> > > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do
I
> > > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > TIA
> > > > > > bc
> >
> >
>
>