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DragonRider 12-17-2003 09:42 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 00:14:14 GMT, "Fluffy"
<no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote:

>You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
>and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
>drive car.


You might actually notice that all of the front-running WRC cars in
the FIA are All Wheel Drive, not Front Wheel Drive. These are the
open class cars that you watch on Speed Channel. The FWD are a much
lower class though you may occasionally see them and these usually
have a small, if any, spoiler/wing. :)


DragonRider 12-17-2003 09:44 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:34 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
>car, though?


For the most part a larger wing takes away from a front wheel drive.
It lightens the wheels that are supposed to be getting the most
traction which is usually the last thing you want. Ever notice that
in all the DTM and BTC races the FWD models don't have the wings?

Btw, the Evo is an All Wheel Drive. Only the base Lancers are FWD.


DragonRider 12-17-2003 09:44 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:34 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
>car, though?


For the most part a larger wing takes away from a front wheel drive.
It lightens the wheels that are supposed to be getting the most
traction which is usually the last thing you want. Ever notice that
in all the DTM and BTC races the FWD models don't have the wings?

Btw, the Evo is an All Wheel Drive. Only the base Lancers are FWD.


DragonRider 12-17-2003 09:44 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:34 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
>car, though?


For the most part a larger wing takes away from a front wheel drive.
It lightens the wheels that are supposed to be getting the most
traction which is usually the last thing you want. Ever notice that
in all the DTM and BTC races the FWD models don't have the wings?

Btw, the Evo is an All Wheel Drive. Only the base Lancers are FWD.


DragonRider 12-17-2003 09:44 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:49:34 GMT, Randolph <trash@junkmail.com> wrote:

>Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
>car, though?


For the most part a larger wing takes away from a front wheel drive.
It lightens the wheels that are supposed to be getting the most
traction which is usually the last thing you want. Ever notice that
in all the DTM and BTC races the FWD models don't have the wings?

Btw, the Evo is an All Wheel Drive. Only the base Lancers are FWD.


Bryan Canter 12-17-2003 11:33 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
richard48@webtv.net wrote in message news:<347-3FDFEDEF-776@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> Spoiler?.............kind a like a "boob" job.


Oh no! I love those things. Reason you will never catch me asking "why
would I want one (or two) of those."

But I see your point. And thanks to the rest of the group for this
excellent discussion. So spoilers are like large breasts for men. I
will surely remember that next time I see someone driving a Civic with
a spoiler. :-)

bc

Bryan Canter 12-17-2003 11:33 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
richard48@webtv.net wrote in message news:<347-3FDFEDEF-776@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> Spoiler?.............kind a like a "boob" job.


Oh no! I love those things. Reason you will never catch me asking "why
would I want one (or two) of those."

But I see your point. And thanks to the rest of the group for this
excellent discussion. So spoilers are like large breasts for men. I
will surely remember that next time I see someone driving a Civic with
a spoiler. :-)

bc

Bryan Canter 12-17-2003 11:33 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
richard48@webtv.net wrote in message news:<347-3FDFEDEF-776@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> Spoiler?.............kind a like a "boob" job.


Oh no! I love those things. Reason you will never catch me asking "why
would I want one (or two) of those."

But I see your point. And thanks to the rest of the group for this
excellent discussion. So spoilers are like large breasts for men. I
will surely remember that next time I see someone driving a Civic with
a spoiler. :-)

bc

Bryan Canter 12-17-2003 11:33 AM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
richard48@webtv.net wrote in message news:<347-3FDFEDEF-776@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> Spoiler?.............kind a like a "boob" job.


Oh no! I love those things. Reason you will never catch me asking "why
would I want one (or two) of those."

But I see your point. And thanks to the rest of the group for this
excellent discussion. So spoilers are like large breasts for men. I
will surely remember that next time I see someone driving a Civic with
a spoiler. :-)

bc

Gary Murison 12-17-2003 01:11 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Hi,

An interesting discussion you have started here :)

Well, I can confirm that a spoiler (correctly suited to your motor) does
have its uses. My main car is a Mitsubishi 3 litre GTO (Twin Turbo). The
spoilers fitted to these are speed activated - automatically adjusting their
angle over 50mph. They have a habit of knackering up, so when mine did I
thought I would take the car for a spin when I had the spoiler off fixing
it. I can definitely say that there was a hell of a difference in the car's
handling. Admittedly, these cars are finely balanced and built for speed.
Normally the car would stick to the road like a bloke's eyes to a female's
chest, but with the spoiler removed, each corner was hairer than a girl's
armpit when her razor has gone blunt!!

Out of interest, after I refitted the spoiler I disabled the front spoiler
(also speed activated) and the handling totally changed too. I was pretty
surprised at how such a reasonably small piece of fibreglass could have so
much effect on a car that weighs near to 2 tons.

Anyway, I am sure that this discussion will continue for a bit yet, but I
just wanted to throw in my contribution :)

Regards,

Gary



Gary Murison 12-17-2003 01:11 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Hi,

An interesting discussion you have started here :)

Well, I can confirm that a spoiler (correctly suited to your motor) does
have its uses. My main car is a Mitsubishi 3 litre GTO (Twin Turbo). The
spoilers fitted to these are speed activated - automatically adjusting their
angle over 50mph. They have a habit of knackering up, so when mine did I
thought I would take the car for a spin when I had the spoiler off fixing
it. I can definitely say that there was a hell of a difference in the car's
handling. Admittedly, these cars are finely balanced and built for speed.
Normally the car would stick to the road like a bloke's eyes to a female's
chest, but with the spoiler removed, each corner was hairer than a girl's
armpit when her razor has gone blunt!!

Out of interest, after I refitted the spoiler I disabled the front spoiler
(also speed activated) and the handling totally changed too. I was pretty
surprised at how such a reasonably small piece of fibreglass could have so
much effect on a car that weighs near to 2 tons.

Anyway, I am sure that this discussion will continue for a bit yet, but I
just wanted to throw in my contribution :)

Regards,

Gary



Gary Murison 12-17-2003 01:11 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Hi,

An interesting discussion you have started here :)

Well, I can confirm that a spoiler (correctly suited to your motor) does
have its uses. My main car is a Mitsubishi 3 litre GTO (Twin Turbo). The
spoilers fitted to these are speed activated - automatically adjusting their
angle over 50mph. They have a habit of knackering up, so when mine did I
thought I would take the car for a spin when I had the spoiler off fixing
it. I can definitely say that there was a hell of a difference in the car's
handling. Admittedly, these cars are finely balanced and built for speed.
Normally the car would stick to the road like a bloke's eyes to a female's
chest, but with the spoiler removed, each corner was hairer than a girl's
armpit when her razor has gone blunt!!

Out of interest, after I refitted the spoiler I disabled the front spoiler
(also speed activated) and the handling totally changed too. I was pretty
surprised at how such a reasonably small piece of fibreglass could have so
much effect on a car that weighs near to 2 tons.

Anyway, I am sure that this discussion will continue for a bit yet, but I
just wanted to throw in my contribution :)

Regards,

Gary



Gary Murison 12-17-2003 01:11 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Hi,

An interesting discussion you have started here :)

Well, I can confirm that a spoiler (correctly suited to your motor) does
have its uses. My main car is a Mitsubishi 3 litre GTO (Twin Turbo). The
spoilers fitted to these are speed activated - automatically adjusting their
angle over 50mph. They have a habit of knackering up, so when mine did I
thought I would take the car for a spin when I had the spoiler off fixing
it. I can definitely say that there was a hell of a difference in the car's
handling. Admittedly, these cars are finely balanced and built for speed.
Normally the car would stick to the road like a bloke's eyes to a female's
chest, but with the spoiler removed, each corner was hairer than a girl's
armpit when her razor has gone blunt!!

Out of interest, after I refitted the spoiler I disabled the front spoiler
(also speed activated) and the handling totally changed too. I was pretty
surprised at how such a reasonably small piece of fibreglass could have so
much effect on a car that weighs near to 2 tons.

Anyway, I am sure that this discussion will continue for a bit yet, but I
just wanted to throw in my contribution :)

Regards,

Gary



Jim Hernandez 12-17-2003 01:12 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
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"Bryan Canter" <bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
>
> While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> would want one of those? Just for the looks?
>
> TIA
> bc


You would want one of those for either looks or a convenient carrying
handle. Otherwise, a spoiler on a Honda is as useful as radiator mounted air
bag.



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Jim Hernandez 12-17-2003 01:12 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
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> Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
>
> While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> would want one of those? Just for the looks?
>
> TIA
> bc


You would want one of those for either looks or a convenient carrying
handle. Otherwise, a spoiler on a Honda is as useful as radiator mounted air
bag.



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