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Fluffy 12-16-2003 06:43 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.

I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
down force.

For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)



"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> ME !"
> These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
>
> Bryan Canter wrote:
> >
> > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> >
> > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> >
> > TIA
> > bc




Fluffy 12-16-2003 06:43 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.

I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg

If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
down force.

For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)



"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> ME !"
> These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
>
> Bryan Canter wrote:
> >
> > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> >
> > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> >
> > TIA
> > bc




Randolph 12-16-2003 06:49 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
car, though?

Fluffy wrote:
>
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc


Randolph 12-16-2003 06:49 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
car, though?

Fluffy wrote:
>
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc


Randolph 12-16-2003 06:49 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
car, though?

Fluffy wrote:
>
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc


Randolph 12-16-2003 06:49 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
car, though?

Fluffy wrote:
>
> I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the new
> lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the gas
> station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do anything?
> I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I told
> him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
>
> I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
>
> If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon fiber
> rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's truly
> an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow for
> down force.
>
> For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's practical
> application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that I
> have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > ME !"
> > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> >
> > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > >
> > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > >
> > > TIA
> > > bc


Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:03 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear end
traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.

Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
tire pressure accordingly to help out.

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> car, though?
>
> Fluffy wrote:
> >
> > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

new
> > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

gas
> > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

anything?
> > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I

told
> > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> >
> > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

fiber
> > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

truly
> > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow

for
> > down force.
> >
> > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

practical
> > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that

I
> > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > > ME !"
> > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> > >
> > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > >
> > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

going
> > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > bc




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:03 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear end
traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.

Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
tire pressure accordingly to help out.

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> car, though?
>
> Fluffy wrote:
> >
> > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

new
> > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

gas
> > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

anything?
> > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I

told
> > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> >
> > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

fiber
> > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

truly
> > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow

for
> > down force.
> >
> > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

practical
> > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that

I
> > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > > ME !"
> > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> > >
> > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > >
> > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

going
> > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > bc




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:03 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear end
traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.

Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
tire pressure accordingly to help out.

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> car, though?
>
> Fluffy wrote:
> >
> > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

new
> > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

gas
> > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

anything?
> > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I

told
> > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> >
> > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

fiber
> > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

truly
> > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow

for
> > down force.
> >
> > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

practical
> > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that

I
> > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > > ME !"
> > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> > >
> > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > >
> > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

going
> > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > bc




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:03 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear end
traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.

Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
tire pressure accordingly to help out.

"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> car, though?
>
> Fluffy wrote:
> >
> > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

new
> > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

gas
> > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

anything?
> > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction. I

told
> > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> >
> > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> >
> > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

fiber
> > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

truly
> > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air flow

for
> > down force.
> >
> > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

practical
> > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous that

I
> > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look At
> > > ME !"
> > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr. bob
> > >
> > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > >
> > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

going
> > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > >
> > > > TIA
> > > > bc




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:14 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
drive car.

Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have it
on the car.


"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
> on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear

end
> traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
>
> Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
> tire pressure accordingly to help out.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> > car, though?
> >
> > Fluffy wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

> new
> > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

> gas
> > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

> anything?
> > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.

I
> told
> > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > >
> > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

> fiber
> > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

> truly
> > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air

flow
> for
> > > down force.
> > >
> > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

> practical
> > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous

that
> I
> > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > >
> > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look

At
> > > > ME !"
> > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.

bob
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

> going
> > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > bc

>
>




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:14 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
drive car.

Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have it
on the car.


"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
> on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear

end
> traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
>
> Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
> tire pressure accordingly to help out.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> > car, though?
> >
> > Fluffy wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

> new
> > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

> gas
> > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

> anything?
> > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.

I
> told
> > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > >
> > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

> fiber
> > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

> truly
> > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air

flow
> for
> > > down force.
> > >
> > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

> practical
> > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous

that
> I
> > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > >
> > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look

At
> > > > ME !"
> > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.

bob
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

> going
> > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > bc

>
>




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:14 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
drive car.

Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have it
on the car.


"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
> on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear

end
> traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
>
> Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
> tire pressure accordingly to help out.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> > car, though?
> >
> > Fluffy wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

> new
> > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

> gas
> > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

> anything?
> > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.

I
> told
> > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > >
> > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

> fiber
> > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

> truly
> > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air

flow
> for
> > > down force.
> > >
> > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

> practical
> > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous

that
> I
> > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > >
> > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look

At
> > > > ME !"
> > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.

bob
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

> going
> > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > bc

>
>




Fluffy 12-16-2003 07:14 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
You'll notice that front wheel drive race cars such as the Peugeot 206 WRC
and the Ford Focus WRC have a HUGE rear spoiler, yet they're front wheel
drive car.

Do they benefit from it? You better bet they do or else they won't have it
on the car.


"Fluffy" <no-spamming-fluffydaddmy3@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j3NDb.568176$Tr4.1537821@attbi_s03...
> Regardless of what drive train set up, any additional traction given is
> beneficial, especially in the rear end. Ideally you would want down force
> on the entire car but down force on the rear end does give you more rear

end
> traction and reducing the possibility of oversteer.
>
> Understeer is more forgiving for inexperienced driver. Oversteer on the
> other hand, normally leads to a complete spinout unless corrected
> immediately. When I race my Civic at the track, I normally adjust my rear
> tire pressure accordingly to help out.
>
> "Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3FDF99F1.E6CB38D0@junkmail.com...
> > Would down force at the rear end do you any good in a front wheel drive
> > car, though?
> >
> > Fluffy wrote:
> > >
> > > I didn't get enough love from my parents so I went out and bought the

> new
> > > lancer EVO earlier this year. The first week I got it, someone at the

> gas
> > > station asked me... does that thing (referring to the spoiler) do

> anything?
> > > I told him that while I'm pumping the gas, "no", but once in motion it
> > > produces some down force in the rear end to give me better traction.

I
> told
> > > him that it came that way stock but I don't think he believed me.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if this is an actual wind tunnel but it looks cool.
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_2.jpg
> > > http://www.natalis2002.com/evo/evo8_gsr_3.jpg
> > >
> > > If anybody get a chance to take a look at the EVO's adjustable carbon

> fiber
> > > rear spoiler that weights only a few pounds... you'll notice that it's

> truly
> > > an upside down wing and it's extremely smooth to ensure smooth air

flow
> for
> > > down force.
> > >
> > > For the most part, it's for cosmetic but you can argue that it's

> practical
> > > application. Those who don't think it's practical is just jealous

that
> I
> > > have a bigger spoiler than they do. :)
> > >
> > > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3FDF638D.C8D823C6@neo.rr.com...
> > > > Well, I'm glad you asked that question Bryan.
> > > > The only use a spoiler can be used for is to identify a driver who
> > > > wants to be noticed. If you see someone with extra lights, or bright
> > > > lights on the front of their car, they also are saying to you "Look

At
> > > > ME !"
> > > > These drivers didn't get enough love from their parents. dr.

bob
> > > >
> > > > Bryan Canter wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers

> going
> > > > > for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> > > > > would want one of those? Just for the looks?
> > > > >
> > > > > TIA
> > > > > bc

>
>




Jim Yanik 12-16-2003 07:39 PM

Re: What does a spoiler do?
 
bcnewsgroups@yahoo.com (Bryan Canter) wrote in
news:614be1fb.0312160902.662f4543@posting.google.c om:

> Okay, my stupid question for the day follows. :-)
>
> While browsing for a wheel hub cap, I see the rear wing spoilers going
> for more than 300 bucks on the internet. My question is, why do I
> would want one of those? Just for the looks?
>
> TIA
> bc


One could say that some spoilers are good places to mount a Center High
Mounted Stop Light,LED-bar version.(CHMSL). ;-)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net


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