valve noise or pinging noise?
10-23-2004 | 03:39 AM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
87 ISNT?
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
>
> > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
> >
> >
>
>
87 ISNT?
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
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> 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
>
> > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
> >
> >
>
>
10-23-2004 | 03:39 AM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
87 ISNT?
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10nb4cvoe7l76e2@corp.supernews.com...
> 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
>
> > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
> >
> >
>
>
87 ISNT?
"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:10nb4cvoe7l76e2@corp.supernews.com...
> 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
>
> > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
> >
> >
>
>
10-23-2004 | 12:04 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present engines.)
NOT interference, according to Gates:
Civic 2001
Passport 1994-2001
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
(open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
So I don't know if the statement below about the 1988 Prelude is correct. Gates
mentions Si versions of the Civic but not the Prelude, so maybe Gates is
incomplete.
But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve design and
timing are such that, even though it's interference, the damage is less likely.
"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote
> I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
> 87 ISNT?
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote
> > 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> > done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
> >
> > > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present engines.)
NOT interference, according to Gates:
Civic 2001
Passport 1994-2001
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
(open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
So I don't know if the statement below about the 1988 Prelude is correct. Gates
mentions Si versions of the Civic but not the Prelude, so maybe Gates is
incomplete.
But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve design and
timing are such that, even though it's interference, the damage is less likely.
"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote
> I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
> 87 ISNT?
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote
> > 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> > done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
> >
> > > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
10-23-2004 | 12:04 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present engines.)
NOT interference, according to Gates:
Civic 2001
Passport 1994-2001
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
(open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
So I don't know if the statement below about the 1988 Prelude is correct. Gates
mentions Si versions of the Civic but not the Prelude, so maybe Gates is
incomplete.
But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve design and
timing are such that, even though it's interference, the damage is less likely.
"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote
> I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
> 87 ISNT?
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote
> > 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> > done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
> >
> > > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present engines.)
NOT interference, according to Gates:
Civic 2001
Passport 1994-2001
http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
(open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
So I don't know if the statement below about the 1988 Prelude is correct. Gates
mentions Si versions of the Civic but not the Prelude, so maybe Gates is
incomplete.
But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve design and
timing are such that, even though it's interference, the damage is less likely.
"lamont1" <lamont@lamont.com> wrote
> I HEARD THAT ALL HONDAS ARE INTERFERENCE ENGINES. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT THE
> 87 ISNT?
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote
> > 86-89 accord usually DON'T bend valves when the belt breaks. If you had
> > done this in an 88 prelude Si, you'd be the luckiest man on earth.
> >
> > > 5) im the luckiest man on earth hahahhaha
10-23-2004 | 10:52 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
Caroline wrote:
>
> But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> damage is less likely.
It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
valve damage.
Eric
>
> But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> damage is less likely.
It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
valve damage.
Eric
10-23-2004 | 10:52 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
Caroline wrote:
>
> But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> damage is less likely.
It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
valve damage.
Eric
>
> But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> damage is less likely.
It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
valve damage.
Eric
10-24-2004 | 01:04 AM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> Caroline wrote:
> >
> > But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> > design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> > damage is less likely.
>
> It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
> position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
> valve damage.
This is true of any interference engine, no?
Damage is never guaranteed when a TB on an interference engine breaks; it
depends on where the timing is when the belt breaks, engine RPM at the time of
breakage, etc.
I'm wondering whether there are certain designs of interference engines that, I
dunno, have a different valve angle or some other design feature that reduce the
likelihood of damage when the TB breaks.
> Caroline wrote:
> >
> > But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> > design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> > damage is less likely.
>
> It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
> position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
> valve damage.
This is true of any interference engine, no?
Damage is never guaranteed when a TB on an interference engine breaks; it
depends on where the timing is when the belt breaks, engine RPM at the time of
breakage, etc.
I'm wondering whether there are certain designs of interference engines that, I
dunno, have a different valve angle or some other design feature that reduce the
likelihood of damage when the TB breaks.
10-24-2004 | 01:04 AM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote
> Caroline wrote:
> >
> > But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> > design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> > damage is less likely.
>
> It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
> position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
> valve damage.
This is true of any interference engine, no?
Damage is never guaranteed when a TB on an interference engine breaks; it
depends on where the timing is when the belt breaks, engine RPM at the time of
breakage, etc.
I'm wondering whether there are certain designs of interference engines that, I
dunno, have a different valve angle or some other design feature that reduce the
likelihood of damage when the TB breaks.
> Caroline wrote:
> >
> > But nor can I tell if there are some interference engines whose valve
> > design and timing are such that, even though it's interference, the
> > damage is less likely.
>
> It would depend on where the cam stopped rotating. If it stopped in a
> position such that the valves were only half-way open then one might escape
> valve damage.
This is true of any interference engine, no?
Damage is never guaranteed when a TB on an interference engine breaks; it
depends on where the timing is when the belt breaks, engine RPM at the time of
breakage, etc.
I'm wondering whether there are certain designs of interference engines that, I
dunno, have a different valve angle or some other design feature that reduce the
likelihood of damage when the TB breaks.
10-30-2004 | 07:03 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
> engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present
> engines.)
>
> NOT interference, according to Gates:
> Civic 2001
> Passport 1994-2001
>
> http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
> (open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
>
Gates can be wrong. It lists my 85 Volvo 765T (2.3L B230FT) as interference,
when it definitely isn't (even if fitted with an aftermarket cam).
Mike
news:sived.6431$ta5.5054@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
> engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present
> engines.)
>
> NOT interference, according to Gates:
> Civic 2001
> Passport 1994-2001
>
> http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
> (open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
>
Gates can be wrong. It lists my 85 Volvo 765T (2.3L B230FT) as interference,
when it definitely isn't (even if fitted with an aftermarket cam).
Mike
10-30-2004 | 07:03 PM
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Re: valve noise or pinging noise?
"Caroline" <caroline10027remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
> engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present
> engines.)
>
> NOT interference, according to Gates:
> Civic 2001
> Passport 1994-2001
>
> http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
> (open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
>
Gates can be wrong. It lists my 85 Volvo 765T (2.3L B230FT) as interference,
when it definitely isn't (even if fitted with an aftermarket cam).
Mike
news:sived.6431$ta5.5054@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
> Gates.com says most Honda models from the 1970s to 2001 have interference
> engines, but not all. (It doesn't have info on 2002 to the present
> engines.)
>
> NOT interference, according to Gates:
> Civic 2001
> Passport 1994-2001
>
> http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?br...preset663Gates
> (open the pdf file listed near the bottom)
>
Gates can be wrong. It lists my 85 Volvo 765T (2.3L B230FT) as interference,
when it definitely isn't (even if fitted with an aftermarket cam).
Mike
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