"James Cameron" <namaste225@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsdKdnQRQFPs18mXcRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> Brian, Brian, Brian. . . You're not helping things at all. How are we
> supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the answers
> to begin with? You'd be surprised what you could learn for yourself if
> you actually took a little time to READ!!!

I am well aware of what others have already said here (I have said the very
same thing in the past to others). But, now that the point has been made,
the answer to his question might as well be given. Next time (giving the OP
the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in the Owners Manual before
posting his question here.

Brian

 

"James Cameron" <namaste225@yahoo.com> wrote in message
newsdKdnQRQFPs18mXcRVn-1w@comcast.com...
> Brian, Brian, Brian. . . You're not helping things at all. How are we
> supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the answers
> to begin with? You'd be surprised what you could learn for yourself if
> you actually took a little time to READ!!!

I am well aware of what others have already said here (I have said the very
same thing in the past to others). But, now that the point has been made,
the answer to his question might as well be given. Next time (giving the OP
the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in the Owners Manual before
posting his question here.

Brian

 

"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:kM5Kd.35419$Ob.1388@edtnps84:

>
> "James Cameron" <namaste225@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsdKdnQRQFPs18mXcRVn-1w@comcast.com...
>> Brian, Brian, Brian. . . You're not helping things at all. How are
>> we supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the
>> answers to begin with? You'd be surprised what you could learn for
>> yourself if you actually took a little time to READ!!!
>
> I am well aware of what others have already said here (I have said the
> very same thing in the past to others). But, now that the point has
> been made, the answer to his question might as well be given. Next
> time (giving the OP the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in
> the Owners Manual before posting his question here.
>


I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.


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"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:kM5Kd.35419$Ob.1388@edtnps84:

>
> "James Cameron" <namaste225@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> newsdKdnQRQFPs18mXcRVn-1w@comcast.com...
>> Brian, Brian, Brian. . . You're not helping things at all. How are
>> we supposed to teach these guys to actually RTFM if you give them the
>> answers to begin with? You'd be surprised what you could learn for
>> yourself if you actually took a little time to READ!!!
>
> I am well aware of what others have already said here (I have said the
> very same thing in the past to others). But, now that the point has
> been made, the answer to his question might as well be given. Next
> time (giving the OP the benefit of the doubt <g>), he would look in
> the Owners Manual before posting his question here.
>


I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.


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"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95EB5674AC007teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>
> I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

Now you do know the answer <g>.

> The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.

Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

Brian

 

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95EB5674AC007teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>
> I *would* have given the answer, had I known it.

Now you do know the answer <g>.

> The OP has disappeared, you'll notice.

Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

Brian

 

On 1/27/2005 8:46 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
> many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
> and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
> the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

<leans forward from the shadows>

I lurk here on and off and have lurned (misspelling intentional )
quite a bit. I knew I was going to be in the market for an LX (not the
EX, cause then why not an Accord, and then why not, and so on). Haven't
bought it yet, but that's just for background.

But I participate actively in other forums.

I love a finished thread. It is there for everyone to find.

There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it
seems to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me,
cause few will answer) and say to myself, "if I don't answer, maybe
he'll use the forum search button, maybe he'll notice it's the second
line of the FAQ, maybe he'll discover google. He can't think he is the
first person to have this problem and still expect someone to know
answer in minutes, Can he?"

Long Live RTFM!

<leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>

 

On 1/27/2005 8:46 AM, Brian Smith wrote:
>
> Possibly he's just sitting back waiting for the answer. I find that a great
> many times in a lot of cases, people will ask a question of total strangers
> and never acknowledge the knowledge they gain. It says a great deal about
> the way society is reducing itself to low levels.

<leans forward from the shadows>

I lurk here on and off and have lurned (misspelling intentional )
quite a bit. I knew I was going to be in the market for an LX (not the
EX, cause then why not an Accord, and then why not, and so on). Haven't
bought it yet, but that's just for background.

But I participate actively in other forums.

I love a finished thread. It is there for everyone to find.

There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it
seems to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me,
cause few will answer) and say to myself, "if I don't answer, maybe
he'll use the forum search button, maybe he'll notice it's the second
line of the FAQ, maybe he'll discover google. He can't think he is the
first person to have this problem and still expect someone to know
answer in minutes, Can he?"

Long Live RTFM!

<leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>

 

"Andrew" <atangel@_n_o_s_p_a_m_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:35sgunF4jdn43U1@individual.net...
>
> There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it seems
> to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me, cause
> few will answer) and say to myself, "if I don't answer, maybe he'll use
> the forum search button, maybe he'll notice it's the second line of the
> FAQ, maybe he'll discover google. He can't think he is the first person to
> have this problem and still expect someone to know answer in minutes, Can
> he?"
>
> Long Live RTFM!
>
> <leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>

LOL! I have always believed in reading the Owners Manual, IF there is
something about the vehicle that when I pull a blank.

Brian

 

"Andrew" <atangel@_n_o_s_p_a_m_hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:35sgunF4jdn43U1@individual.net...
>
> There are times, when I look at a common technical question (and it seems
> to hit most constant participants at the same time it seems to me, cause
> few will answer) and say to myself, "if I don't answer, maybe he'll use
> the forum search button, maybe he'll notice it's the second line of the
> FAQ, maybe he'll discover google. He can't think he is the first person to
> have this problem and still expect someone to know answer in minutes, Can
> he?"
>
> Long Live RTFM!
>
> <leans back into shadows, lights a stoagie>

LOL! I have always believed in reading the Owners Manual, IF there is
something about the vehicle that when I pull a blank.

Brian

 

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95EAC9EC49292teggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> "James Cameron" <namaste225@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:Oc6dnZe5CpD2u2XcRVn-hg@comcast.com:
>
>>
>>> : Um, hate to ask, but what does your Owner's Manual say....?
>>>
>>> LOL...what, take 10 minutes to look it up in the manual rather than
>>> post a message here and wait 2 to 3 hours to get the answer? :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey, come on you guys, be nice. We don't even know if he has the
>> manual or not. Not that it would make a difference anyway!
>
>
>
> I was being nice. Notice I didn't call him an inbred, pointy-headed 'tard.
> I could have, but I didn't. And he could have posted back saying (nicely
> as
> well), "I'm sorry but I don't have the manual so I can't check", but he
> didn't.
>
> The car's a 2004. I was assuming he's the original owner. And it would
> make
> a big difference because that's exactly the sort of thing they write
> owner's manuals for.
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

This is not a comment directed at Tegger, but rather at the culture of this
group.

I have Nissans and Hondas in the family, so I lurk in both groups. For some
time now, there has been some sort of weird culture in the Honda groups that
seems to require every question, no matter how obvious or obscure must be
answered with at least one tirade about reading the manual (except of course
if its a question about when to change the timing belt or the oil - all the
RTFM people have opinions about those things that are at odds with the
manual). I don't see this in the Nissan groups. They usually get answers
to their questions from actual Nissan mechanics and the really stupid
questions are usually ignored rather than attacked.

I really do not understand the causes for the arrogance that lives here, but
I have no doubt about why OPs disappear.

 

"E. Meyer" <e54.meyer@ieee.org> wrote in
news:K9idndlBCfqLwGfcRVn-hA@comcast.com:


> I have Nissans and Hondas in the family, so I lurk in both groups.
> For some time now, there has been some sort of weird culture in the
> Honda groups that seems to require every question, no matter how
> obvious or obscure must be answered with at least one tirade about
> reading the manual



Well, you could also say other groups have their own problems:

1) rec.autos.tech has the supremely competent but breathtakingly arrogant
Daniel Stern.

2) alt.autos.toyota has turned into a political sinkhole.

3) The Nissan group you mention was not always so good as you say. A couple
of years ago I lurked/posted for a while, since my neighbor had a Pulsar NX
with serious problems, and I was trying to get help for him there. There
appeared to be zero members who had any sort of experience, so I gave up.

Had the OP's car in this thread been even one year older, I would not have
suggested the manual, since by that time the probability of it being a
sell-on would have increased greatly.

I wish we had actual working professional techs posting here. Are there
any?

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