Hi Everyone,

I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.

Thanks So much

 

Sam wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much

------------------------

We need to know your mileage and when you last changed the tranny fluid.
I wouldn't book an appointment at that dealer before doing lots of
research.

By the way, is there lots of coolant in your coolant reservoir? It
affects the shift points. How's your mileage been lately?

'Curly'

 

Sam wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much

=============================
Another question about your 'rough shifting' problem: You didn't change
the tranny fluid and put in non-Honda Dexron, did you? That will do it.
The solution is to do three drain-n-fills with Honda Z1 and a short
drive in between. It's a DIY job if you have a place and a socket handle.

'Curly'

 

On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much

Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission mounts.
Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain and refill
if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should use Honda Z1
ATF.

But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to first
gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
off at cruising speed)
then the torque converter is defective.

 

Hi Curly,

It has 203,000 miles in it. I never changed the tranny oil, but I did fill
it up about 5000 miles ago. Coolant in the reservoir is low. All your
help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks

"motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:sNadnT-DEcAM04TVnZ2dnUVZ_tDinZ2d@uniservecommunications.. .
> Sam wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
>> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
>> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
>> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
>> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
>> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks So much
>
> ------------------------
>
> We need to know your mileage and when you last changed the tranny fluid. I
> wouldn't book an appointment at that dealer before doing lots of research.
>
> By the way, is there lots of coolant in your coolant reservoir? It affects
> the shift points. How's your mileage been lately?
>
> 'Curly'

 

Hi,

It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come along with a
harsh downshift to first
gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and off at
cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."

I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just replace
Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics there. He told me
that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is this really true?

All your advic is appreciated greatly.

Thanks
<bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
>> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
>> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
>> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
>> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
>> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks So much
>
> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission mounts.
> Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain and refill
> if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should use Honda Z1
> ATF.
>
> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to first
> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
> off at cruising speed)
> then the torque converter is defective.
>
>
>

 

another this, with this problem, I had someone check the computer because
of check engine light, it gave 2 errors:
1) Torque Convertor Clutch Circuit Malfunction
2) Shift Solenoid A Malfunction

Anyone has any ideas?

Thanks> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much
>

 

On May 2, 9:00 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
> another this, with this problem, I had someone check the computer because
> of check engine light, it gave 2 errors:
> 1) Torque Convertor Clutch Circuit Malfunction
> 2) Shift Solenoid A Malfunction
>
> Anyone has any ideas?
>
> Thanks

Hopefully the torque converter is mechanically sound and the problems
are electronics. I'm pretty sure that's what the former dealership has
in mind when they offer to fix it for only $700. The latter do what
most dealerships would do, they'll replace the whole tranny and it'll
cost you about $3,000 or more

i'm sure neither the former nor the latter will mess with the internal
parts of the transmission. If people want to fix things themselves the
dealers always have the parts they need. But no dealers are supposed
to overhaul anything.

I would go with the former dealer

> > I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> > shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> > told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> > and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> > dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> > offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> > Thanks So much

 

"Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:481bb3d8$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Hi,
>
> It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come along
> with a harsh downshift to first
> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
> off at cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."
>
> I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just replace
> Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics there. He
> told me that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is this really
> true?
>
> All your advic is appreciated greatly.
>
> Thanks
><bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
> news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.
> ..
>> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car
>>> starting shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on
>>> the phone, they told me that in that year model it would be most
>>> likely Torque Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it
>>> would roughly cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem
>>> with their accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share
>>> how much it cost to fix it.
>>>
>>> Thanks So much
>>
>> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission
>> mounts. Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain
>> and refill if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should
>> use Honda Z1 ATF.
>>
>> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to first
>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>> off at cruising speed)
>> then the torque converter is defective.

AFAIK,there's NO electronics in a torque converter;it's all in the
planetary gear shift solenoids.
fluid torque converters are just single stage hydraulic turbines.


you need to get that coolant level you mentioned in another post brought up
to proper levels and air bled out from the system;the coolant temp
sensor(CTS) needs to be fully immersed or it gives wrong temp readings to
the ECU.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

"Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:481bb7e9$0$31763$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> another this, with this problem, I had someone check the computer
> because of check engine light, it gave 2 errors:
> 1) Torque Convertor Clutch Circuit Malfunction
> 2) Shift Solenoid A Malfunction
>
> Anyone has any ideas?

I doubt it's anything you could fix yourself.
So,it's either a Honda dealer or other Honda-knowledgeable service shop.
Have you tried a transmission shop?
one that has a good Better Business Bureau rating...

>
> Thanks> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
>> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone,
>> they told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque
>> Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly
>> cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem with their
>> accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share how much it
>> cost to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks So much
>>
>
>
>



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

Thanks Jim for the information. I will get that coolant checked and CTS
sensor ad air bled out of the system.


"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
news:Xns9A92EF0D943ACjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
> "Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
> news:481bb3d8$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come along
>> with a harsh downshift to first
>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>> off at cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."
>>
>> I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just replace
>> Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics there. He
>> told me that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is this really
>> true?
>>
>> All your advic is appreciated greatly.
>>
>> Thanks
>><bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
>> news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.com.
>> ..
>>> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>
>>>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car
>>>> starting shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on
>>>> the phone, they told me that in that year model it would be most
>>>> likely Torque Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it
>>>> would roughly cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem
>>>> with their accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share
>>>> how much it cost to fix it.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks So much
>>>
>>> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission
>>> mounts. Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain
>>> and refill if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should
>>> use Honda Z1 ATF.
>>>
>>> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to first
>>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>>> off at cruising speed)
>>> then the torque converter is defective.
>
> AFAIK,there's NO electronics in a torque converter;it's all in the
> planetary gear shift solenoids.
> fluid torque converters are just single stage hydraulic turbines.
>
>
> you need to get that coolant level you mentioned in another post brought
> up
> to proper levels and air bled out from the system;the coolant temp
> sensor(CTS) needs to be fully immersed or it gives wrong temp readings to
> the ECU.
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik
> at
> kua.net

 

"Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
news:481c5f2b$0$4074$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Thanks Jim for the information. I will get that coolant checked and
> CTS sensor ad air bled out of the system.
>
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A92EF0D943ACjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.87...
>> "Sam" <rjaffri@columbus.rr.com> wrote in
>> news:481bb3d8$0$31744$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It is doing like you mentioned "But if the rough shiftings come
>>> along with a harsh downshift to first
>>> gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling (on and
>>> off at cruising speed) then the torque converter is defective."
>>>
>>> I talked to the Another Dealer, he told me that they dont just
>>> replace Torque Converter, because there is too much electronics
>>> there. He told me that I need to have whole Tranny Changed. Is
>>> this really true?
>>>
>>> All your advic is appreciated greatly.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>><bi241@scn.org> wrote in message
>>> news:6d647ae8-7184-40a0-81f6-8fc6bfb0f33b@i76g2000hsf.googlegroups.co
>>> m. ..
>>>> On Apr 30, 9:52 pm, "Sam" <rjaf...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car
>>>>> starting shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on
>>>>> the phone, they told me that in that year model it would be most
>>>>> likely Torque Converter, and it is inside the Transmission and it
>>>>> would roughly cost 700 to 800 dollars. Any one had this problem
>>>>> with their accords, any advice you can offer, and if you can share
>>>>> how much it cost to fix it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks So much
>>>>
>>>> Rough shiftings can simply be the results of torn transmission
>>>> mounts. Check to make sure they are OK. Then check the fluid, drain
>>>> and refill if needed. Since your Accord is a 2000 model, you should
>>>> use Honda Z1 ATF.
>>>>
>>>> But if the rough shiftings come along with a harsh downshift to
>>>> first gear (when coasting to a stop) and the lockup clutch cycling
>>>> (on and off at cruising speed)
>>>> then the torque converter is defective.
>>
>> AFAIK,there's NO electronics in a torque converter;it's all in the
>> planetary gear shift solenoids.
>> fluid torque converters are just single stage hydraulic turbines.
>>
>>
>> you need to get that coolant level you mentioned in another post
>> brought up
>> to proper levels and air bled out from the system;the coolant temp
>> sensor(CTS) needs to be fully immersed or it gives wrong temp
>> readings to the ECU.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik
>> at
>> kua.net
>
>
>

I would also change the tranny fluid using Honda AT fluid.
it would be a bummer to spend a lot of money on repairs when it was just
some old,dirty ATF causing your problems.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

 

Sam wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>
> Thanks So much
>
>

let me guess - either this is a v6 [you don't say] and you have a
problem with the great honda transmission recall, or you had the
transmission "flushed" by a non-honda service shop, and they used
non-honda transmission fluid...

if the latter, drain and fill 3 times, driving for a week between each
time, with genuine honda z1 atf. the transmission will magically behave
like new again.

 

Jim,
It is 4 Cylinder Automatic, I never changed the Tranny fluids. I guess its
time now. Someone mentioned to also add the SEAFOAM additive. Is that
recommended?

Thanks

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
news:WOednakjBc3kRIDVnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
> Sam wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I have 2000 Accord, it has been great car. Recently the Car starting
>> shifting very rough. I had a talked to a honda dealer on the phone, they
>> told me that in that year model it would be most likely Torque Converter,
>> and it is inside the Transmission and it would roughly cost 700 to 800
>> dollars. Any one had this problem with their accords, any advice you can
>> offer, and if you can share how much it cost to fix it.
>>
>> Thanks So much
>
> let me guess - either this is a v6 [you don't say] and you have a problem
> with the great honda transmission recall, or you had the transmission
> "flushed" by a non-honda service shop, and they used non-honda
> transmission fluid...
>
> if the latter, drain and fill 3 times, driving for a week between each
> time, with genuine honda z1 atf. the transmission will magically behave
> like new again.