Tires
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Re: Tires
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 08:57:46 -0800, FIRE LIEUT Z wrote:
> I have 2003 Honda Accord V6 Question is the tires I got on my car are
> Michelin V rated tire would I have a problem if I go to a Goodyear H
> rated tire. Any help would be appreciated.
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoSpeedRating.dos
I doubt you're too likely to exceed 130 mph, are you?
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> I have 2003 Honda Accord V6 Question is the tires I got on my car are
> Michelin V rated tire would I have a problem if I go to a Goodyear H
> rated tire. Any help would be appreciated.
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/infoSpeedRating.dos
I doubt you're too likely to exceed 130 mph, are you?
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Re: Tires
"FIRE LIEUT Z" <nickozzzz@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I have 2003 Honda Accord V6 Question is the tires I got on my car are
> Michelin V rated tire would I have a problem if I go to a Goodyear H
> rated tire. Any help would be appreciated.
I will disagree and say "yes!'
A question of tire ratings came up in the Yahoo! Prius forum a couple years
ago. The speed ratings were debated to death, especially the meaning of the
ratings. It turns out the meaning of the speed rating differs from one
manufacturer to another, with a few rating a tire for a speed after testing
at that speed for as little as ten minutes and a few rating it at that speed
if it passed tests for long periods (simulating indefinite runs at that
speed.) But the most surprising data was from somebody who had a response
from a Dunlop tire engineer who provided the explanation about the
variability of the tests:
"But, in order to pass an H speed rating, a tire more or less has to have a
cap ply. This change has a profound effect on failure rates, way beyond what
the increase in speed rating suggests. The failures rates are so low for
tires with cap plies that court room 'experts' claim that tire manufacturers
are negligent for not using cap plies even in their S rated products. (My
response to that is that these 'experts' must also be saying that tires
ought to have a minimum of an H speed rating - and if that is true, the
"experts" ought to be lobbying NHTSA to specify H rated tires for any tire
sold in the US.) But the point I want to make is that the step between T and
H is enormous from a tire durability point of view. And I don't recommend
anyone use anything less than an H rated tire. Considering that the risk of
a tire failure includes fatality, the cost / benefit seems to be there."
Since reading that I have specified H speed rating for all the tires I buy,
snow tires excepted.
Mike
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Re: Tires
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:37:18 -0700, Michael Pardee wrote:
> "FIRE LIEUT Z" <nickozzzz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:56f9064d-1202-4fbb-aeaa-181ce885b99b@z1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>I have 2003 Honda Accord V6 Question is the tires I got on my car are
>> Michelin V rated tire would I have a problem if I go to a Goodyear H
>> rated tire. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I will disagree and say "yes!'
>
> A question of tire ratings came up in the Yahoo! Prius forum a couple
> years ago. The speed ratings were debated to death, especially the
> meaning of the ratings. It turns out the meaning of the speed rating
> differs from one manufacturer to another, with a few rating a tire for a
> speed after testing at that speed for as little as ten minutes and a few
> rating it at that speed if it passed tests for long periods (simulating
> indefinite runs at that speed.) But the most surprising data was from
> somebody who had a response from a Dunlop tire engineer who provided the
> explanation about the variability of the tests:
>
> "But, in order to pass an H speed rating, a tire more or less has to
> have a cap ply. This change has a profound effect on failure rates, way
> beyond what the increase in speed rating suggests. The failures rates
> are so low for tires with cap plies that court room 'experts' claim that
> tire manufacturers are negligent for not using cap plies even in their S
> rated products. (My response to that is that these 'experts' must also
> be saying that tires ought to have a minimum of an H speed rating - and
> if that is true, the "experts" ought to be lobbying NHTSA to specify H
> rated tires for any tire sold in the US.) But the point I want to make
> is that the step between T and H is enormous from a tire durability
> point of view. And I don't recommend anyone use anything less than an H
> rated tire. Considering that the risk of a tire failure includes
> fatality, the cost / benefit seems to be there."
>
> Since reading that I have specified H speed rating for all the tires I
> buy, snow tires excepted.
>
> Mike
thanks for re-posting that.
> "FIRE LIEUT Z" <nickozzzz@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:56f9064d-1202-4fbb-aeaa-181ce885b99b@z1g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>>I have 2003 Honda Accord V6 Question is the tires I got on my car are
>> Michelin V rated tire would I have a problem if I go to a Goodyear H
>> rated tire. Any help would be appreciated.
>
> I will disagree and say "yes!'
>
> A question of tire ratings came up in the Yahoo! Prius forum a couple
> years ago. The speed ratings were debated to death, especially the
> meaning of the ratings. It turns out the meaning of the speed rating
> differs from one manufacturer to another, with a few rating a tire for a
> speed after testing at that speed for as little as ten minutes and a few
> rating it at that speed if it passed tests for long periods (simulating
> indefinite runs at that speed.) But the most surprising data was from
> somebody who had a response from a Dunlop tire engineer who provided the
> explanation about the variability of the tests:
>
> "But, in order to pass an H speed rating, a tire more or less has to
> have a cap ply. This change has a profound effect on failure rates, way
> beyond what the increase in speed rating suggests. The failures rates
> are so low for tires with cap plies that court room 'experts' claim that
> tire manufacturers are negligent for not using cap plies even in their S
> rated products. (My response to that is that these 'experts' must also
> be saying that tires ought to have a minimum of an H speed rating - and
> if that is true, the "experts" ought to be lobbying NHTSA to specify H
> rated tires for any tire sold in the US.) But the point I want to make
> is that the step between T and H is enormous from a tire durability
> point of view. And I don't recommend anyone use anything less than an H
> rated tire. Considering that the risk of a tire failure includes
> fatality, the cost / benefit seems to be there."
>
> Since reading that I have specified H speed rating for all the tires I
> buy, snow tires excepted.
>
> Mike
thanks for re-posting that.
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