"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
>
> I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> you have done it differently?
>
> TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
Tibur,
Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
>
> I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> you have done it differently?
>
> TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
Tibur,
Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
>
> I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> you have done it differently?
>
> TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
Tibur,
Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...

Dave D
--
Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

 

"jim" <jim@noname.com> wrote in message news:402AD1A6.2D14@noname.com...
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

But not if the leak is because the tyre isn't sealed to
the rim properly, and all that pressure is actually
holding the tyre securely against the rim...

Al

 

"jim" <jim@noname.com> wrote in message news:402AD1A6.2D14@noname.com...
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

But not if the leak is because the tyre isn't sealed to
the rim properly, and all that pressure is actually
holding the tyre securely against the rim...

Al

 

"jim" <jim@noname.com> wrote in message news:402AD1A6.2D14@noname.com...
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

But not if the leak is because the tyre isn't sealed to
the rim properly, and all that pressure is actually
holding the tyre securely against the rim...

Al

 

"jim" <jim@noname.com> wrote in message news:402AD1A6.2D14@noname.com...
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

But not if the leak is because the tyre isn't sealed to
the rim properly, and all that pressure is actually
holding the tyre securely against the rim...

Al

 

jim wrote:
>
> Al Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> > news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> > >
> > > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > > you have done it differently?
> > >
> > > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> >
> > This used to happen on my 89 Prelude.
> > The tyre wasn't sealed to the rim properly.
> > The gap only let out air when the weight of
> > the car was compressing the wheel and
> > tyre, so the leak couldn't be replicated in
> > a workshop, just like you describe. The
> > problem was solved by refitting the tyre.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Al
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

Then they are fools.

If you have a rim leak, high pressure will seal it up great.

Mine would go flat overnight. Took it to shop. Shop pumped it up hard
and no bubbles in water tank. Shop left it overnight, still no leak.

I had to insist they take it off and treat it like a rim leak. No more
flat now.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

jim wrote:
>
> Al Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> > news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> > >
> > > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > > you have done it differently?
> > >
> > > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> >
> > This used to happen on my 89 Prelude.
> > The tyre wasn't sealed to the rim properly.
> > The gap only let out air when the weight of
> > the car was compressing the wheel and
> > tyre, so the leak couldn't be replicated in
> > a workshop, just like you describe. The
> > problem was solved by refitting the tyre.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Al
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

Then they are fools.

If you have a rim leak, high pressure will seal it up great.

Mine would go flat overnight. Took it to shop. Shop pumped it up hard
and no bubbles in water tank. Shop left it overnight, still no leak.

I had to insist they take it off and treat it like a rim leak. No more
flat now.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

jim wrote:
>
> Al Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> > news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> > >
> > > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > > you have done it differently?
> > >
> > > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> >
> > This used to happen on my 89 Prelude.
> > The tyre wasn't sealed to the rim properly.
> > The gap only let out air when the weight of
> > the car was compressing the wheel and
> > tyre, so the leak couldn't be replicated in
> > a workshop, just like you describe. The
> > problem was solved by refitting the tyre.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Al
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

Then they are fools.

If you have a rim leak, high pressure will seal it up great.

Mine would go flat overnight. Took it to shop. Shop pumped it up hard
and no bubbles in water tank. Shop left it overnight, still no leak.

I had to insist they take it off and treat it like a rim leak. No more
flat now.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

jim wrote:
>
> Al Reynolds wrote:
> >
> > "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> > news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> > >
> > > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > > you have done it differently?
> > >
> > > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> >
> > This used to happen on my 89 Prelude.
> > The tyre wasn't sealed to the rim properly.
> > The gap only let out air when the weight of
> > the car was compressing the wheel and
> > tyre, so the leak couldn't be replicated in
> > a workshop, just like you describe. The
> > problem was solved by refitting the tyre.
> >
> > HTH,
> > Al
> the tire shop i go to puts 50 lbs of air in the tire so when they try to
> find the leak the air will come out pretty easy.......

Then they are fools.

If you have a rim leak, high pressure will seal it up great.

Mine would go flat overnight. Took it to shop. Shop pumped it up hard
and no bubbles in water tank. Shop left it overnight, still no leak.

I had to insist they take it off and treat it like a rim leak. No more
flat now.

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:<102mejf3ct8s632@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> >
> > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > you have done it differently?
> >
> > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> Tibur,
> Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
> are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
> run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
> so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
> from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
> characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
> rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
> a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
> compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
> not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
> seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
> pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
> leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
> If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
> Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
> the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Gee Tibur, are you positive some neighbor kids are not trying to tease
you? It sounds like a rim leak on your 12 year old car. Do they look
rusty? I bought a tire for 1$ at a garage sale that had nearly new
tread. I soon learned the tire would leak at the rim from a
combination of hardened rubber and rust on the bead. I tried various
DIY fixes and lately, when I had the tire off, I put oil along the rim
bead margin to soften up that rust. I have not added air in months
now.

 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:<102mejf3ct8s632@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> >
> > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > you have done it differently?
> >
> > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> Tibur,
> Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
> are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
> run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
> so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
> from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
> characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
> rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
> a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
> compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
> not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
> seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
> pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
> leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
> If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
> Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
> the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Gee Tibur, are you positive some neighbor kids are not trying to tease
you? It sounds like a rim leak on your 12 year old car. Do they look
rusty? I bought a tire for 1$ at a garage sale that had nearly new
tread. I soon learned the tire would leak at the rim from a
combination of hardened rubber and rust on the bead. I tried various
DIY fixes and lately, when I had the tire off, I put oil along the rim
bead margin to soften up that rust. I have not added air in months
now.

 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:<102mejf3ct8s632@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> >
> > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > you have done it differently?
> >
> > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> Tibur,
> Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
> are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
> run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
> so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
> from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
> characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
> rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
> a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
> compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
> not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
> seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
> pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
> leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
> If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
> Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
> the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Gee Tibur, are you positive some neighbor kids are not trying to tease
you? It sounds like a rim leak on your 12 year old car. Do they look
rusty? I bought a tire for 1$ at a garage sale that had nearly new
tread. I soon learned the tire would leak at the rim from a
combination of hardened rubber and rust on the bead. I tried various
DIY fixes and lately, when I had the tire off, I put oil along the rim
bead margin to soften up that rust. I have not added air in months
now.

 

"Dave Dodson" <ddodson@gci.net> wrote in message news:<102mejf3ct8s632@corp.supernews.com>...
> "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
> news:f84bc92b950c7eefa6e975ebfbade22e@news.bubbane ws.com...
> > One of my tire deflates from 32 to 9-psi mysteriously every two
> > weeks. The other three tires are fine, they hold charge pretty well.
> > They're all the same brand. The tire in question have good threads
> > and never been punctured, other than being aged from the sun.
> >
> > I remove the wheel from the car and inflate it to 40-psi. I
> > submerge the tire into a pool of water. No air bubbles! I pump it
> > to 44-psi. No air bubbles! I install it onto the car and it begins its
> > slow leak. I have another Honda that does this. I just give up and
> > buy a new tire. Would you have pump it to 50-psi? How would
> > you have done it differently?
> >
> > TIA, Tibur Honda Accord `92 130K, Toyota Tercel 140K mi.
> Tibur,
> Others have suggested valve stem, poor bead seal, and a hidden puncture. All
> are good possibilities but allow me to suggest still another. Have you ever
> run the tire with low air pressure (such as the first time it happened)? If
> so, you may have destroyed the inner liner of the tire. All tires are made
> from synthetic rubber compounds with different formulae but all have one
> characteristic in common - they are all porus. Air will leak out through the
> rubber of the tire because it is not airtight. This is over come by spraying
> a thin film of hypalon based compound (usually) inside the tire. This
> compound seals the tire. The only problem with this compound is that it is
> not very flexible. Under severe flex situation, such as running the tire
> seriously underinflated, will cause that lining to break up into small
> pieces, detach itself from the inner walls of the tire, and the tire will
> leak. Suggestion: dismount the tire and see if it is full of rubber debris.
> If so, that is the problem and the only solution is to replace the tire.
> Replace the valve stem and reseal the bead when doing this (if the inside of
> the tire is clean) and your problem should be solved...
>
> Dave D
> --
> Hunt hard...Kill quick...Offer No Apologies!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Gee Tibur, are you positive some neighbor kids are not trying to tease
you? It sounds like a rim leak on your 12 year old car. Do they look
rusty? I bought a tire for 1$ at a garage sale that had nearly new
tread. I soon learned the tire would leak at the rim from a
combination of hardened rubber and rust on the bead. I tried various
DIY fixes and lately, when I had the tire off, I put oil along the rim
bead margin to soften up that rust. I have not added air in months
now.