Timing chains in a Honda??????
01-02-2004 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
Yes, many newer Honda engines use timing chains. As far as I know, all
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-02-2004 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
Yes, many newer Honda engines use timing chains. As far as I know, all
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-02-2004 | 08:51 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
Yes, many newer Honda engines use timing chains. As far as I know, all
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-02-2004 | 08:51 PM
#5
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
Yes, many newer Honda engines use timing chains. As far as I know, all
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
the i-VTEC engines use chains rather than belts.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de" wrote:
>
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-03-2004 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com>,
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
01-03-2004 | 05:22 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com>,
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
01-03-2004 | 05:22 PM
#8
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com>,
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
"null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de"
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote:
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
I don't have any repair manuals for the Element and Acura RSX, however, I
just checked a repair manual for the 1998 and 1999 Honda Accord. It has a
timing belt.
01-03-2004 | 08:50 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-03-2004 | 08:50 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-03-2004 | 08:50 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
chains.
<null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> about this???
01-04-2004 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <mjKJb.51291$IF6.1101348@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Sean
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
01-04-2004 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <mjKJb.51291$IF6.1101348@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Sean
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
01-04-2004 | 09:20 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
In article <mjKJb.51291$IF6.1101348@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Sean
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
> The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> chains.
>
> <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > about this???
Which leads to another question
Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
01-04-2004 | 09:22 PM
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Re: Timing chains in a Honda??????
This is speculation only on my part, but it seems the change from belt
to chain came with the i-VTEC engines. On VTEC engines different cam
profiles are selected depending on the operating conditions. On i-VTEC
engines there is the added feature that the cam shaft can be advanced
and retarded with respect to the cam shaft sprocket. My guess is that
this shifting adds enough strain on the valve train that Honda felt a
belt would not be reliable enough.
In the past, belts were more quiet than chains and cheaper to
manufacture. Once you have done your first $800 timing belt change you'd
probably wish for chain drive instead :-)
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> In article <mjKJb.51291$IF6.1101348@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Sean
> Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
>
> > The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> > chains.
> >
> > <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> > news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > > about this???
>
> Which leads to another question
> Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?
to chain came with the i-VTEC engines. On VTEC engines different cam
profiles are selected depending on the operating conditions. On i-VTEC
engines there is the added feature that the cam shaft can be advanced
and retarded with respect to the cam shaft sprocket. My guess is that
this shifting adds enough strain on the valve train that Honda felt a
belt would not be reliable enough.
In the past, belts were more quiet than chains and cheaper to
manufacture. Once you have done your first $800 timing belt change you'd
probably wish for chain drive instead :-)
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> In article <mjKJb.51291$IF6.1101348@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>, "Sean
> Donaher" <nospam@nospam.ca> wrote:
>
> > The new 2.4L 4-banger i-VTEC engines in the new Accords and CRVs use timing
> > chains.
> >
> > <null_pointer@nowhere.com.net.edu.gov.de> wrote in message
> > news:n27cvv8kfl6doghnbapgrgvsgs100n07ne@4ax.com...
> > > I just got back from the San Diego Auto Show and was scrutinizing some
> > > of the engines (Element and Acura RSX) and the hardware looked
> > > indicative of chains: aluminum covers etc. Does anyone know anything
> > > about this???
>
> Which leads to another question
> Why did Honda stop making use of Timing belts--do timing chains work better?