Speaker-Eating dashboard?
07-03-2007 | 09:57 AM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:52:21 +0000, Kerry wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news
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>>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:05:07 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:wPphi.70$bh5.29@trndny01...
>>>>> My Mazda 626 seems to have an appetite for speakers. I have replaced
>>>>> the passenger's side front speaker for the third time a couple weeks
>>>>> ago, and already it's buzzing like a bee is trapped in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The speakers installed are capable of MORE than the rated wattage of
>>>>> the JVC Cd player (~22 Watts per channel, speakers are 50W or more)
>>>>> All the other speakers work great, including the Driver's side dash
>>>>> replaced in January as a set with the one that went bad a couple weeks
>>>>> ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> There aren't any leaks, there doesn't appear to be any 'stray
>>>>> magentism' anywhere around, no obstructions or protrusions of any type
>>>>> into the speaker area.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm out of 'inexpensive' speakers (the last one that blew was a
>>>>> Clarion, not the most expensive, but not a cheapo by any means...)
>>>>> Connections are tight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually audio problems don't throw me, but this one has me stumped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What size are these speakers?
>>>
>>>
>>> 5"
>>
>> In my situation it seemd to follow about the 3rd time my teen borrowed
>> the
>> car...every time. I'm sure you know that distortion will kill a speaker
>> as quick as power. This one seemed to think the volume had to be on max
>> for it to work at all.
>
> It doesn't?!
>
> (He don't know me too well...)
>
> I have a JVC headunit in my Supra, powering a 100Wx4 channel amp, and 4
> 100W MB Quarts at each corner. Since the roof comes off the car, I wanted
> something I could hear over the road and wind noise.
>
> 3rd year and no problem! I rarely have problems with my installations.
> That's why this is so perplexing.
>
> But, I am a bass player, so I want to HEAR the bass. It's just odd that
> it's always this one speaker! The left front has been in there since I
> took the original pair out. I always replace with 4 ohm speakers so the
> balance is correct all the way around.
You're asking for something that's *just about* physically impossible from
5" speakers in imperfect enclosures (doors). Here's an experiment you might
want to try, though. I have been told that Radio Shack sells a decibel meter
that reasonably accurate. With the car's top off, and no Harley or 18
wheeler nearby to add noise, measure how many decibels of noise there are
just driving down the road with the radio off. I think you'll find that it's
pretty close to 100db, especially with the wind in certain directions
relative to the car.
To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger speakers,
and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm also a bass
player, so don't debate this, OK?
By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:52:21 +0000, Kerry wrote:
>
>>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>> news
%Ehi.882$wu5.139@trndny03...>>> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 15:05:07 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
>>>> news:wPphi.70$bh5.29@trndny01...
>>>>> My Mazda 626 seems to have an appetite for speakers. I have replaced
>>>>> the passenger's side front speaker for the third time a couple weeks
>>>>> ago, and already it's buzzing like a bee is trapped in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> The speakers installed are capable of MORE than the rated wattage of
>>>>> the JVC Cd player (~22 Watts per channel, speakers are 50W or more)
>>>>> All the other speakers work great, including the Driver's side dash
>>>>> replaced in January as a set with the one that went bad a couple weeks
>>>>> ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> There aren't any leaks, there doesn't appear to be any 'stray
>>>>> magentism' anywhere around, no obstructions or protrusions of any type
>>>>> into the speaker area.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm out of 'inexpensive' speakers (the last one that blew was a
>>>>> Clarion, not the most expensive, but not a cheapo by any means...)
>>>>> Connections are tight.
>>>>>
>>>>> Usually audio problems don't throw me, but this one has me stumped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> What size are these speakers?
>>>
>>>
>>> 5"
>>
>> In my situation it seemd to follow about the 3rd time my teen borrowed
>> the
>> car...every time. I'm sure you know that distortion will kill a speaker
>> as quick as power. This one seemed to think the volume had to be on max
>> for it to work at all.
>
> It doesn't?!
>
> (He don't know me too well...)
>
> I have a JVC headunit in my Supra, powering a 100Wx4 channel amp, and 4
> 100W MB Quarts at each corner. Since the roof comes off the car, I wanted
> something I could hear over the road and wind noise.
>
> 3rd year and no problem! I rarely have problems with my installations.
> That's why this is so perplexing.
>
> But, I am a bass player, so I want to HEAR the bass. It's just odd that
> it's always this one speaker! The left front has been in there since I
> took the original pair out. I always replace with 4 ohm speakers so the
> balance is correct all the way around.
You're asking for something that's *just about* physically impossible from
5" speakers in imperfect enclosures (doors). Here's an experiment you might
want to try, though. I have been told that Radio Shack sells a decibel meter
that reasonably accurate. With the car's top off, and no Harley or 18
wheeler nearby to add noise, measure how many decibels of noise there are
just driving down the road with the radio off. I think you'll find that it's
pretty close to 100db, especially with the wind in certain directions
relative to the car.
To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger speakers,
and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm also a bass
player, so don't debate this, OK?
By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
07-03-2007 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
07-03-2007 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
07-03-2007 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in a
> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
less!
>
> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
07-03-2007 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
news:Sxvii.3010$Nw5.59@trndny04...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
07-03-2007 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
news:Sxvii.3010$Nw5.59@trndny04...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
07-03-2007 | 01:23 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
news:Sxvii.3010$Nw5.59@trndny04...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:57:47 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> To make enough clean, tight bass to overcome that noise if it existed in
>> a
>> bar, you'd want a lot more power than you have. You'd have larger
>> speakers, and the enclosures would be designed for those speakers. I'm
>> also a bass player, so don't debate this, OK?
>
>
> But...but...I get a MUCH better sound out of my Ampeg SVT 4-10" than I do
> out of my 2-15" Fender! I just have the Fender 'cause it weighs 50 LBS
> less!
>
>
>>
>> By the way, what's the brand and model of your car amp?
>
> Genuine Optimus! They were blowing them out when RadShack got out of the
> car stereo business. I got it for $30 NIB...
>
> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help, and
> these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>
>
OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
07-03-2007 | 01:43 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
07-03-2007 | 01:43 PM
#69
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
07-03-2007 | 01:43 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>
>>
>>
> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
Speakers rated for 50W
I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
still happens.
Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
07-03-2007 | 01:46 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
07-03-2007 | 01:46 PM
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
07-03-2007 | 01:46 PM
#73
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the speakers,
>>> it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all around help,
>>> and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>
>
> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W RMS)
> Speakers rated for 50W
>
>
> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if it
> still happens.
>
> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end speakers,
> and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>
>
There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care WHAT
the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle. You don't
have enough power to run them safely.
07-03-2007 | 10:03 PM
#74
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:46:41 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the
>>>> speakers, it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all
>>>> around help, and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>>
>>
>> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W
>> RMS) Speakers rated for 50W
>>
>>
>> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
>> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if
>> it still happens.
>>
>> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
>> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
>> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end
>> speakers, and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>>
>>
>>
> There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care
> WHAT the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle.
> You don't have enough power to run them safely.
I pulled the Kenwood and installed the AIWA. THe left dash speaker was
buzzing off the bat. I replaced it with another set of known good
speakers, and the left dash speaker started buzzing after about 10-12
weeks. I replaced the speakers as a paor with new Clarions. After 10-12
weeks, the new Clarion left dash speaker started buzzing. I replaced the
AIWA with a JVC, and replaced the left dash speaker with another known
good speaker. This time it lasted about 3 weeks...
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the
>>>> speakers, it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all
>>>> around help, and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>>
>>
>> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W
>> RMS) Speakers rated for 50W
>>
>>
>> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
>> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if
>> it still happens.
>>
>> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
>> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
>> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end
>> speakers, and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>>
>>
>>
> There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care
> WHAT the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle.
> You don't have enough power to run them safely.
I pulled the Kenwood and installed the AIWA. THe left dash speaker was
buzzing off the bat. I replaced it with another set of known good
speakers, and the left dash speaker started buzzing after about 10-12
weeks. I replaced the speakers as a paor with new Clarions. After 10-12
weeks, the new Clarion left dash speaker started buzzing. I replaced the
AIWA with a JVC, and replaced the left dash speaker with another known
good speaker. This time it lasted about 3 weeks...
07-03-2007 | 10:03 PM
#75
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Re: Speaker-Eating dashboard?
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:46:41 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the
>>>> speakers, it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all
>>>> around help, and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>>
>>
>> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W
>> RMS) Speakers rated for 50W
>>
>>
>> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
>> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if
>> it still happens.
>>
>> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
>> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
>> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end
>> speakers, and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>>
>>
>>
> There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care
> WHAT the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle.
> You don't have enough power to run them safely.
I pulled the Kenwood and installed the AIWA. THe left dash speaker was
buzzing off the bat. I replaced it with another set of known good
speakers, and the left dash speaker started buzzing after about 10-12
weeks. I replaced the speakers as a paor with new Clarions. After 10-12
weeks, the new Clarion left dash speaker started buzzing. I replaced the
AIWA with a JVC, and replaced the left dash speaker with another known
good speaker. This time it lasted about 3 weeks...
> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno@AE86.gts> wrote in message
> news:5Vvii.7451$bh5.6731@trndny01...
>> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 17:23:25 +0000, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>>> Yeah, not the best. But it's not the Supra that's chewing the
>>>> speakers, it's the Mazda. The Supra sounds *GREAT*! (MB Quarts all
>>>> around help, and these ones DIDN'T separate from the frames!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> OK. Save me from having to read back through the clutter again. In the
>>> Mazda, what is powering the speakers? Brand & model of amp, please.
>>
>>
>> Just a plain old JVC head unit rated at 50W/channel (Effectively, 22W
>> RMS) Speakers rated for 50W
>>
>>
>> I can't remember when I changed the speakers, because before that I was
>> running an AIWA CD player. So, I should change the speakers and see if
>> it still happens.
>>
>> Problem is, it did it with the original pair in the car with a Kenwood
>> Cassette deck. I changed the deck and the speakers at the same time, and
>> then changed the speakers twice more. I'm running out of low-end
>> speakers, and ain't putting a set of Quarts in there!
>>
>>
>>
> There's your answer. Your Kenwood is frying the speakers. I don't care
> WHAT the claimed wattage is, or how much power the speakers can handle.
> You don't have enough power to run them safely.
I pulled the Kenwood and installed the AIWA. THe left dash speaker was
buzzing off the bat. I replaced it with another set of known good
speakers, and the left dash speaker started buzzing after about 10-12
weeks. I replaced the speakers as a paor with new Clarions. After 10-12
weeks, the new Clarion left dash speaker started buzzing. I replaced the
AIWA with a JVC, and replaced the left dash speaker with another known
good speaker. This time it lasted about 3 weeks...