Some advice please
#31
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Re: Some advice please
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:18:53 -0600, amsjsj wrote:
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
#32
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Re: Some advice please
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:18:53 -0600, amsjsj wrote:
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
#33
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Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
On Sat, 24 Jan 2004 19:18:53 -0600, amsjsj wrote:
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
> what would eventually happen if i dont?
You will kill your battery and alternator for sure. Best thing for you to
do would be to take it to a shop that specializes in high-end car audio
and get some professional advice.
feroce
#34
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Re: Some advice please
I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#35
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Re: Some advice please
I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#36
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Re: Some advice please
I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#37
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Re: Some advice please
I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
like you off!
"bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>
> What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> inconsiderate ?
>
> Bearman
>
> "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
head
> > phones when they are driving?
> >
> > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
everyone
> > in
> > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> PEASE.
> > IF
> > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > >
> > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The
> amp
> > is
> > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
coarse
> I
> > > > know
> > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
bass
> > > hits
> > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
> > > helped
> > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery
> or
> > > beef
> > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > possibly
> > > > mess
> > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#38
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Re: Some advice please
thanks for the advice man thats what i needed to know, Well there are
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
#39
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
thanks for the advice man thats what i needed to know, Well there are
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
#40
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
thanks for the advice man thats what i needed to know, Well there are
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
#41
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
thanks for the advice man thats what i needed to know, Well there are
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
optimum or something like that batterys that are designed for systems but
never tried it yet it doesnt really make sense but i dont know how they
work.
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:401339DC.5781BE4D@junkmail.com...
> What kind of trouble you are in here depends very much on how you are
> using the system. If you have an optimal class B amplifier and you are
> getting 900 W delivered to your speakers, you are blowing another 256 W
> as heat in the amplifier output stages. This means a total power of 1146
> W or 79 Amps at 14.5V. (In reality amplifiers are not optimal, so you
> need more power).
>
> When you hit the bass notes the alternator will essentially be
> full-fielded in an attempt to deliver the required power. This power
> comes from the engine, and if you are at idle you will certainly see the
> RPM drop. Ironically this will only get worse with a bigger alternator.
> Full fielded at idle the stock alternator will produce perhaps 30A for a
> power of 435 W. That means that the maximum load it can put on the
> engine is about 3/4 horse power (assuming 80% efficiency). The
> additional power (to make up the total 1146 W required) will come from
> the battery. If you put in an alternator rated at twice the amperage,
> you could get perhaps 60 A at idle, or 870 W. You will need less power
> from the battery, but the alternator will try to pull 1.5 HP from the
> engine. This will drop the RPM even more.
>
> The RPM drop really is something you'll have to live with if you try to
> draw that much power. You should adjust your idle speed to the high end
> of the specified range, but don't go much above that. Going too high on
> idle speed will cause the control loop in the ECU to go unstable (and
> you'll get surging idle). Giant capacitors will help (I am sure you know
> that they should be mounted right next to the amplifiers) but not
> eliminate the problem.
>
> Your real concern should be to keep your battery charged. If you are
> cruising along with the stereo blasting at full power, you will de
> discharging the battery while driving. The only cure for this is a
> bigger alternator (which as I mentioned would not help the RPM drop). A
> bigger battery would not do much.
>
> If you run the system at full power only rarely (I can't imagine it
> being bearable to sit in the car with a 900 W stereo on full blast) you
> may not need to make any changes at all.
>
> You will also have to accept that the alternator will be worn out more
> quickly than it would without a monster sound system. Same goes for
> battery.
>
>
> amsjsj wrote:
> >
> > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it. The amp is
> > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of coarse I
know
> > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the bass
hits
> > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but only
helped
> > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the battery or
beef
> > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or possibly
mess
> > up the engine somehow? Please help!
#42
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
Hee! Hee! Hee! It's not working.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
news:fQZQb.8893$_H5.4963@lakeread06...
> I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
> like you off!
>
> "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >
> > What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> > inconsiderate ?
> >
> > Bearman
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
> head
> > > phones when they are driving?
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
> everyone
> > > in
> > > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> > PEASE.
> > > IF
> > > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > > >
> > > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it.
The
> > amp
> > > is
> > > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
> coarse
> > I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
> bass
> > > > hits
> > > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but
only
> > > > helped
> > > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the
battery
> > or
> > > > beef
> > > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > > possibly
> > > > > mess
> > > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#43
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
Hee! Hee! Hee! It's not working.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
news:fQZQb.8893$_H5.4963@lakeread06...
> I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
> like you off!
>
> "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >
> > What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> > inconsiderate ?
> >
> > Bearman
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
> head
> > > phones when they are driving?
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
> everyone
> > > in
> > > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> > PEASE.
> > > IF
> > > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > > >
> > > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it.
The
> > amp
> > > is
> > > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
> coarse
> > I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
> bass
> > > > hits
> > > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but
only
> > > > helped
> > > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the
battery
> > or
> > > > beef
> > > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > > possibly
> > > > > mess
> > > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
#44
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Some advice please
Hee! Hee! Hee! It's not working.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
news:fQZQb.8893$_H5.4963@lakeread06...
> I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
> like you off!
>
> "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >
> > What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> > inconsiderate ?
> >
> > Bearman
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
> head
> > > phones when they are driving?
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
> everyone
> > > in
> > > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> > PEASE.
> > > IF
> > > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > > >
> > > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it.
The
> > amp
> > > is
> > > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
> coarse
> > I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
> bass
> > > > hits
> > > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but
only
> > > > helped
> > > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the
battery
> > or
> > > > beef
> > > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > > possibly
> > > > > mess
> > > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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Re: Some advice please
Hee! Hee! Hee! It's not working.
"amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
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> I dont drive through neighborhoods all day dick head. I love pissin idiots
> like you off!
>
> "bearman" <noyb@home.com> wrote in message
> news:OtqdnfdGH-0BgY7d4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >
> > What about the people in the neighborhood where you're driving, you
> > inconsiderate ?
> >
> > Bearman
> >
> > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > news:yPEQb.8496$_H5.7501@lakeread06...
> > > yeah my systems only turned on outside my neighborhood, now who wears
> head
> > > phones when they are driving?
> > >
> > > "M.C. Tee" <tedwards@LEAVEMEALONEroadrunner.nf.net> wrote in message
> > > news:buv3bh$k1e$1@nntp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net...
> > > > touchy subject i see. Just because he has a system doesn't mean
> everyone
> > > in
> > > > the neighborhood will hear it, i have one and id doubt anyone in my
> > > > neighborhood even knows about it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Woody" <TheDuck@pond.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:GlBQb.33592$P%1.26436178@newssvr28.news.prodi gy.com...
> > > > > GET RID OF THE AMP AND GIVE THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SOME
> > PEASE.
> > > IF
> > > > > YOU WANT LOUD MUSIC AND RUIN YOUR HEARING GET A SET OF EARPHONES.
> > > > >
> > > > > "amsjsj" <amsjsj@***.net> wrote in message
> > > > > news:wtpQb.8340$_H5.7660@lakeread06...
> > > > > > I have a 96 honda accord lx, I have put a sound system in it.
The
> > amp
> > > is
> > > > > > pushing around 900 watts RMS. Which is constantly. Anyways of
> coarse
> > I
> > > > > know
> > > > > > my lights and stuff are going to dim. But my rpms drop when the
> bass
> > > > hits
> > > > > > almost to the bottom line. I just installed an capasitor, but
only
> > > > helped
> > > > > > alittle with everything but not much. SHould i upgrade the
battery
> > or
> > > > beef
> > > > > > up alternator? Also will this wear down the alternator more or
> > > possibly
> > > > > mess
> > > > > > up the engine somehow? Please help!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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