On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
wrote:

> 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
>
> First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
>dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing this
>so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
>rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
>figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I would
>need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
>
> I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or pebbles.
>Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to have
>this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if they
>will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to do
>this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
>
> When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all had
>rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
>caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service techs
>assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why it's
>happening.

I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
fast.
I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.

Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
problem, but a fair number are.

Jody

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
wrote:

> 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
>
> First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
>dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing this
>so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
>rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
>figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I would
>need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
>
> I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or pebbles.
>Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to have
>this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if they
>will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to do
>this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
>
> When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all had
>rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
>caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service techs
>assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why it's
>happening.

I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
fast.
I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.

Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
problem, but a fair number are.

Jody

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
wrote:

> 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
>
> First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
>dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing this
>so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
>rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
>figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I would
>need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
>
> I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or pebbles.
>Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to have
>this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if they
>will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to do
>this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
>
> When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all had
>rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
>caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service techs
>assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why it's
>happening.

I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
fast.
I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.

Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
problem, but a fair number are.

Jody

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:15:12 GMT, "Jim" <jkc84@optonline(unspam).net>
wrote:

>Does anyone know if this problem is all accords or just certain models or
>earlier ones? We have a 2003 EX-4L that was built July 2003. We have 4K
>miles and the rotors seem fine but I keep seeing this problem in the group.
>I had this on our last car. I hope history doesn't repeat.
>THANKS!
>Jim
>
>PS- Jody says once at 30,000 KM? That's pretty good no? Our last car had
>them cut and replaced 3 times before 20K.
>

As fas as I'm concerned, 30,000kms is ridiculous! I put 85,000kms on a
1996 Dodge Neon hard driving before I needed pads or rotors turned.
The Neon my daughter now drives has 240,000kms on it and still has
original back pads!

As soon as some aftermarket slotted/cross drilled rotors are available
for the Honda I will be putting them on. Oh yeah and non-dust pads! I
can't believe how much dust these pads throw!

Jody

>"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>newsj5krvourasavg3r3n1sknj567kf83fcu1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:43:17 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >About to go in for my second resurfacing in less than 5000 miles, and
>hear
>> >this is a common problem. Has anyone heard the whole story behind this,
>an
>> >ofcial resposnse from Honda, or better yet, a solution?
>> >
>> >
>> >Bob
>> >
>> No but I've had mine done once at 30,000kms and suspect it will be
>> coming again soon. Hopefully a recall will happen and they will change
>> the rotors to something that are made of something stronger then
>> graham crackers.
>>
>> Jody

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:15:12 GMT, "Jim" <jkc84@optonline(unspam).net>
wrote:

>Does anyone know if this problem is all accords or just certain models or
>earlier ones? We have a 2003 EX-4L that was built July 2003. We have 4K
>miles and the rotors seem fine but I keep seeing this problem in the group.
>I had this on our last car. I hope history doesn't repeat.
>THANKS!
>Jim
>
>PS- Jody says once at 30,000 KM? That's pretty good no? Our last car had
>them cut and replaced 3 times before 20K.
>

As fas as I'm concerned, 30,000kms is ridiculous! I put 85,000kms on a
1996 Dodge Neon hard driving before I needed pads or rotors turned.
The Neon my daughter now drives has 240,000kms on it and still has
original back pads!

As soon as some aftermarket slotted/cross drilled rotors are available
for the Honda I will be putting them on. Oh yeah and non-dust pads! I
can't believe how much dust these pads throw!

Jody

>"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>newsj5krvourasavg3r3n1sknj567kf83fcu1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:43:17 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >About to go in for my second resurfacing in less than 5000 miles, and
>hear
>> >this is a common problem. Has anyone heard the whole story behind this,
>an
>> >ofcial resposnse from Honda, or better yet, a solution?
>> >
>> >
>> >Bob
>> >
>> No but I've had mine done once at 30,000kms and suspect it will be
>> coming again soon. Hopefully a recall will happen and they will change
>> the rotors to something that are made of something stronger then
>> graham crackers.
>>
>> Jody

 

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 23:15:12 GMT, "Jim" <jkc84@optonline(unspam).net>
wrote:

>Does anyone know if this problem is all accords or just certain models or
>earlier ones? We have a 2003 EX-4L that was built July 2003. We have 4K
>miles and the rotors seem fine but I keep seeing this problem in the group.
>I had this on our last car. I hope history doesn't repeat.
>THANKS!
>Jim
>
>PS- Jody says once at 30,000 KM? That's pretty good no? Our last car had
>them cut and replaced 3 times before 20K.
>

As fas as I'm concerned, 30,000kms is ridiculous! I put 85,000kms on a
1996 Dodge Neon hard driving before I needed pads or rotors turned.
The Neon my daughter now drives has 240,000kms on it and still has
original back pads!

As soon as some aftermarket slotted/cross drilled rotors are available
for the Honda I will be putting them on. Oh yeah and non-dust pads! I
can't believe how much dust these pads throw!

Jody

>"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>newsj5krvourasavg3r3n1sknj567kf83fcu1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 06:43:17 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >About to go in for my second resurfacing in less than 5000 miles, and
>hear
>> >this is a common problem. Has anyone heard the whole story behind this,
>an
>> >ofcial resposnse from Honda, or better yet, a solution?
>> >
>> >
>> >Bob
>> >
>> No but I've had mine done once at 30,000kms and suspect it will be
>> coming again soon. Hopefully a recall will happen and they will change
>> the rotors to something that are made of something stronger then
>> graham crackers.
>>
>> Jody

 

"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...

> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"

Yeah - did that before my original post. All kinds of brake problems out
there with Accords: warped rotors, rear pads wearing out in less than 30m
miles, and my problem - the rotors wearing too easily and quickly for
whatever cause is yet to be reliably determined.

I have been a Honda owner since 1979 and brakes heve never been their strong
suit, but this particular rotor problem is a new one. I'll be looking
forward to what the service manager has to offer on my next dealer visit.


--
Bob
"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
> >
> > First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
> >dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing
this
> >so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
> >rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
> >figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I
would
> >need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
> >
> > I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or
pebbles.
> >Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to
have
> >this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if
they
> >will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to
do
> >this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
> >
> > When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all
had
> >rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
> >caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service
techs
> >assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why
it's
> >happening.
>
> I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
> fast.
> I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.
>
> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
> I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
> problem, but a fair number are.
>
> Jody

 

"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...

> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"

Yeah - did that before my original post. All kinds of brake problems out
there with Accords: warped rotors, rear pads wearing out in less than 30m
miles, and my problem - the rotors wearing too easily and quickly for
whatever cause is yet to be reliably determined.

I have been a Honda owner since 1979 and brakes heve never been their strong
suit, but this particular rotor problem is a new one. I'll be looking
forward to what the service manager has to offer on my next dealer visit.


--
Bob
"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
> >
> > First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
> >dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing
this
> >so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
> >rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
> >figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I
would
> >need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
> >
> > I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or
pebbles.
> >Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to
have
> >this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if
they
> >will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to
do
> >this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
> >
> > When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all
had
> >rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
> >caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service
techs
> >assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why
it's
> >happening.
>
> I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
> fast.
> I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.
>
> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
> I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
> problem, but a fair number are.
>
> Jody

 

"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...

> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"

Yeah - did that before my original post. All kinds of brake problems out
there with Accords: warped rotors, rear pads wearing out in less than 30m
miles, and my problem - the rotors wearing too easily and quickly for
whatever cause is yet to be reliably determined.

I have been a Honda owner since 1979 and brakes heve never been their strong
suit, but this particular rotor problem is a new one. I'll be looking
forward to what the service manager has to offer on my next dealer visit.


--
Bob
"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
> >
> > First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
> >dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing
this
> >so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
> >rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
> >figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I
would
> >need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
> >
> > I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or
pebbles.
> >Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to
have
> >this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if
they
> >will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to
do
> >this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
> >
> > When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all
had
> >rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
> >caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service
techs
> >assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why
it's
> >happening.
>
> I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
> fast.
> I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.
>
> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
> I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
> problem, but a fair number are.
>
> Jody

 

"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...

> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"

Yeah - did that before my original post. All kinds of brake problems out
there with Accords: warped rotors, rear pads wearing out in less than 30m
miles, and my problem - the rotors wearing too easily and quickly for
whatever cause is yet to be reliably determined.

I have been a Honda owner since 1979 and brakes heve never been their strong
suit, but this particular rotor problem is a new one. I'll be looking
forward to what the service manager has to offer on my next dealer visit.


--
Bob
"Knuckles Muldoon" <mortimersnurd@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4unmrvcv16mj1gkc1osuikr1569rbu1gg5@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:15:03 -0500, "rjdriver" <rjdrivers@***.net>
> wrote:
>
> > 2003 Ex 4 cyl 4 door.
> >
> > First cut at 9800 miles, although it needed it somewhat sooner. The
> >dealer didn't charge me, and when I asked the cause of rotors needing
this
> >so soon, he said probably sand or pebbles caught between the pads and
> >rotors. I was going to ask why then was it covered under warantee but
> >figured I should just accept it and leave. Didn't know then that I
would
> >need them surfaced again 3000 miles later.
> >
> > I dont travel anywhere that is pratricularly heavy with sand or
pebbles.
> >Most of my driving is highway under normal conditions. When I go in to
have
> >this fixed again, I will see what the service manager knows. Even if
they
> >will continue to fix it under warantee, I dont look forward to having to
do
> >this every 3-4m miles. There has to be a better solution.
> >
> > When I first saw the 2003 Accords on the lot last Spring, they all
had
> >rusty rotors, and because of the design of the alloy wheels, the rotor,
> >caliper, the entire brake mechanisim is very exposed. If the service
techs
> >assumption that pebbles are getting in there is correct, I can see why
it's
> >happening.
>
> I think this is just nonsense. My dealer told me I must drive too
> fast.
> I have a standard transmission and hardly use the brakes.
>
> Do a Google advanced search and match all words.
> Put in "2003 honda accord brake problems"
> I came up with 4300 matches. They are all not directly related to this
> problem, but a fair number are.
>
> Jody

 

There is a Service Bulletin on the 2003 Accords.
Check with your local dealer and get them done for free

 

There is a Service Bulletin on the 2003 Accords.
Check with your local dealer and get them done for free

 

There is a Service Bulletin on the 2003 Accords.
Check with your local dealer and get them done for free

 

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:30:06 GMT, "Michelle O'Leary"
<michelle.oleary@verizon.net> wrote:

>There is a Service Bulletin on the 2003 Accords.
>Check with your local dealer and get them done for free
>
Where can I find this Michelle? Do you have any HTTP for it?
My local dealer tried to shrug responsibility. It would be good to
take this ammo into them.

Thank you,
Jody

 

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:30:06 GMT, "Michelle O'Leary"
<michelle.oleary@verizon.net> wrote:

>There is a Service Bulletin on the 2003 Accords.
>Check with your local dealer and get them done for free
>
Where can I find this Michelle? Do you have any HTTP for it?
My local dealer tried to shrug responsibility. It would be good to
take this ammo into them.

Thank you,
Jody