No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust in
the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.

Earle

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
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> Are new sleeves readily available?
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I don't know where you read this, but there isn't that much iron in a
Civic
> > engine, not where the coolant can get to it. Maybe the cylinder walls,
but
> > if they are rusted up you have serious problems.
> >
> > I would flush the system. Use the owner's manual instructions, if you
still
> > have it. Fill it with Honda Genuine Coolant. It only takes a gallon of
> > pre-mix, and there are too many different types of coolant out there, to
> > take chances.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <bug67ph@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1161891164.082976.314170@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > Very sharp, Earle But I was asking about a 94 Civic 1.5 liter.
> > >
> > > Curly, yes indeed, it was filled with cheap "Whiz" coolant (and
> > > distilled water). But I was nervous because I read a post that said
> > > that rust is a classic sign of past overheating. AFAIK this car has
> > > never overheated on me, the temp needle never event went up halfway.
So
> > > it's definitely the Whiz, and not overheating?
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust in
the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.

Earle

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:45425C2D.896D9FDD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> Are new sleeves readily available?
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I don't know where you read this, but there isn't that much iron in a
Civic
> > engine, not where the coolant can get to it. Maybe the cylinder walls,
but
> > if they are rusted up you have serious problems.
> >
> > I would flush the system. Use the owner's manual instructions, if you
still
> > have it. Fill it with Honda Genuine Coolant. It only takes a gallon of
> > pre-mix, and there are too many different types of coolant out there, to
> > take chances.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <bug67ph@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1161891164.082976.314170@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > Very sharp, Earle But I was asking about a 94 Civic 1.5 liter.
> > >
> > > Curly, yes indeed, it was filled with cheap "Whiz" coolant (and
> > > distilled water). But I was nervous because I read a post that said
> > > that rust is a classic sign of past overheating. AFAIK this car has
> > > never overheated on me, the temp needle never event went up halfway.
So
> > > it's definitely the Whiz, and not overheating?
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust in
the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.

Earle

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:45425C2D.896D9FDD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> Are new sleeves readily available?
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I don't know where you read this, but there isn't that much iron in a
Civic
> > engine, not where the coolant can get to it. Maybe the cylinder walls,
but
> > if they are rusted up you have serious problems.
> >
> > I would flush the system. Use the owner's manual instructions, if you
still
> > have it. Fill it with Honda Genuine Coolant. It only takes a gallon of
> > pre-mix, and there are too many different types of coolant out there, to
> > take chances.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <bug67ph@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1161891164.082976.314170@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > Very sharp, Earle But I was asking about a 94 Civic 1.5 liter.
> > >
> > > Curly, yes indeed, it was filled with cheap "Whiz" coolant (and
> > > distilled water). But I was nervous because I read a post that said
> > > that rust is a classic sign of past overheating. AFAIK this car has
> > > never overheated on me, the temp needle never event went up halfway.
So
> > > it's definitely the Whiz, and not overheating?
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust in
the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.

Earle

"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpster@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
news:45425C2D.896D9FDD@GrumpyvilleNOT.com...
> Are new sleeves readily available?
>
> JT
>
>
>
>
> Earle Horton wrote:
> >
> > I don't know where you read this, but there isn't that much iron in a
Civic
> > engine, not where the coolant can get to it. Maybe the cylinder walls,
but
> > if they are rusted up you have serious problems.
> >
> > I would flush the system. Use the owner's manual instructions, if you
still
> > have it. Fill it with Honda Genuine Coolant. It only takes a gallon of
> > pre-mix, and there are too many different types of coolant out there, to
> > take chances.
> >
> > Earle
> >
> > <bug67ph@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1161891164.082976.314170@m7g2000cwm.googlegro ups.com...
> > >
> > > Very sharp, Earle But I was asking about a 94 Civic 1.5 liter.
> > >
> > > Curly, yes indeed, it was filled with cheap "Whiz" coolant (and
> > > distilled water). But I was nervous because I read a post that said
> > > that rust is a classic sign of past overheating. AFAIK this car has
> > > never overheated on me, the temp needle never event went up halfway.
So
> > > it's definitely the Whiz, and not overheating?
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com



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jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
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> TeGGeR® wrote:

>>
>> I could have sworn the last Honda 4-cylinder I saw had the iron
>> cylinders sitting bare-naked in the coolant. They were cast as a
>> siamesed block of four, and were fully exposed all the way down until
>> they got buried in the aluminum at the bottom.
>>
> nah, the actual steel liners are real thin - maybe 3mm - and the rest
> of the siamese quintuplets are the alloy casting they sit in. it's an
> unusual arrangement for sure. if you're doing a gasket scrape, it's
> easy enough to test what's where because the soft alloy bit can be
> scratched by the blade, the steel bit not.




This is interesting. Guess the example I saw was dirty engough I couldn't
tell there were two different metals in there. This explains the factory-
specified max bore-out tolerance being a micro-thin .010".


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jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:_I6dnWpAN_IwlN_YnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> TeGGeR® wrote:

>>
>> I could have sworn the last Honda 4-cylinder I saw had the iron
>> cylinders sitting bare-naked in the coolant. They were cast as a
>> siamesed block of four, and were fully exposed all the way down until
>> they got buried in the aluminum at the bottom.
>>
> nah, the actual steel liners are real thin - maybe 3mm - and the rest
> of the siamese quintuplets are the alloy casting they sit in. it's an
> unusual arrangement for sure. if you're doing a gasket scrape, it's
> easy enough to test what's where because the soft alloy bit can be
> scratched by the blade, the steel bit not.




This is interesting. Guess the example I saw was dirty engough I couldn't
tell there were two different metals in there. This explains the factory-
specified max bore-out tolerance being a micro-thin .010".


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jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:_I6dnWpAN_IwlN_YnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> TeGGeR® wrote:

>>
>> I could have sworn the last Honda 4-cylinder I saw had the iron
>> cylinders sitting bare-naked in the coolant. They were cast as a
>> siamesed block of four, and were fully exposed all the way down until
>> they got buried in the aluminum at the bottom.
>>
> nah, the actual steel liners are real thin - maybe 3mm - and the rest
> of the siamese quintuplets are the alloy casting they sit in. it's an
> unusual arrangement for sure. if you're doing a gasket scrape, it's
> easy enough to test what's where because the soft alloy bit can be
> scratched by the blade, the steel bit not.




This is interesting. Guess the example I saw was dirty engough I couldn't
tell there were two different metals in there. This explains the factory-
specified max bore-out tolerance being a micro-thin .010".


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jim beam <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in
news:_I6dnWpAN_IwlN_YnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t:

> TeGGeR® wrote:

>>
>> I could have sworn the last Honda 4-cylinder I saw had the iron
>> cylinders sitting bare-naked in the coolant. They were cast as a
>> siamesed block of four, and were fully exposed all the way down until
>> they got buried in the aluminum at the bottom.
>>
> nah, the actual steel liners are real thin - maybe 3mm - and the rest
> of the siamese quintuplets are the alloy casting they sit in. it's an
> unusual arrangement for sure. if you're doing a gasket scrape, it's
> easy enough to test what's where because the soft alloy bit can be
> scratched by the blade, the steel bit not.




This is interesting. Guess the example I saw was dirty engough I couldn't
tell there were two different metals in there. This explains the factory-
specified max bore-out tolerance being a micro-thin .010".


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"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust
> in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.



I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.



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"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust
> in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.



I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.



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"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust
> in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.



I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.



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"Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:

> No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the "rust
> in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.



I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.



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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>
>
>
> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>
I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's manual
calls for it, and you won't be sorry. It used to be you could leave the
coolant in there for the life of the car, but those days are long gone.
More and more non-ferrous metals are being used every year, and the coolant
formulation changes all the time to make the tree-huggers happy. Some of
them, according to a chemist I know, are downright incompatible.

Earle



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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>
>
>
> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>
I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's manual
calls for it, and you won't be sorry. It used to be you could leave the
coolant in there for the life of the car, but those days are long gone.
More and more non-ferrous metals are being used every year, and the coolant
formulation changes all the time to make the tree-huggers happy. Some of
them, according to a chemist I know, are downright incompatible.

Earle



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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns9869B3582203tegger@207.14.116.130...
> "Earle Horton" <elangloburgues@usa.com> wrote in
> news:45425ecb$0$12054$88260bb3@free.teranews.com:
>
> > No, and they're not water jacket sleeves either. That's why the
> > "rust in the radiator from overheating" story doesn't make sense.
>
>
>
> I don't think it's rust. I think it's discolored coolant.
>
I am sure it is. Use Honda Genuine Coolant, every time the owner's manual
calls for it, and you won't be sorry. It used to be you could leave the
coolant in there for the life of the car, but those days are long gone.
More and more non-ferrous metals are being used every year, and the coolant
formulation changes all the time to make the tree-huggers happy. Some of
them, according to a chemist I know, are downright incompatible.

Earle



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