Dave L

What you said makes perfect sense considering all the windshields replaced
out there. It was years ago, and could have been my father's car that I
noticed the nicks much easier on the windshield with an aftermarket
windshield. Maybe it was a crappy glass shop who's no longer in business.
Who knows!


"Tali" <talinaeagles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156121503.760968.89240@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.
> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> > Hello:
>> >
>> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>> >
>> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>> >
>> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>> > after-market type ?
>> >
>> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Bob
>>
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

Dave L

What you said makes perfect sense considering all the windshields replaced
out there. It was years ago, and could have been my father's car that I
noticed the nicks much easier on the windshield with an aftermarket
windshield. Maybe it was a crappy glass shop who's no longer in business.
Who knows!


"Tali" <talinaeagles@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156121503.760968.89240@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.
> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> > Hello:
>> >
>> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>> >
>> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>> >
>> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>> > after-market type ?
>> >
>> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>> >
>> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Bob
>>
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

jim beam

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>
> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>
> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> after-market type ?
>
> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>
> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
have you tried having them polished out?

jim beam

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>
> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>
> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> after-market type ?
>
> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>
> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
have you tried having them polished out?

jim beam

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>
> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>
> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> after-market type ?
>
> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>
> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
have you tried having them polished out?

jim beam

Robert11 wrote:
> Hello:
>
> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>
> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>
> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> after-market type ?
>
> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>
> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Bob
>
>
have you tried having them polished out?

Tali

jim beam wrote:
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
> >
> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
> >
> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> > after-market type ?
> >
> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> have you tried having them polished out?

Polishing may work, but if the scratches and dings are too deep,
excessive polishing can cause distortions in the glass. You may be able
to have the chips repaired though. I've had quite a few filled over the
years.

Tali

jim beam wrote:
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
> >
> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
> >
> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> > after-market type ?
> >
> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> have you tried having them polished out?

Polishing may work, but if the scratches and dings are too deep,
excessive polishing can cause distortions in the glass. You may be able
to have the chips repaired though. I've had quite a few filled over the
years.

Tali

jim beam wrote:
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
> >
> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
> >
> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> > after-market type ?
> >
> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> have you tried having them polished out?

Polishing may work, but if the scratches and dings are too deep,
excessive polishing can cause distortions in the glass. You may be able
to have the chips repaired though. I've had quite a few filled over the
years.

Tali

jim beam wrote:
> Robert11 wrote:
> > Hello:
> >
> > Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
> > windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
> >
> > Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
> >
> > I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
> > after-market type ?
> >
> > Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
> >
> > Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bob
> >
> >
> have you tried having them polished out?

Polishing may work, but if the scratches and dings are too deep,
excessive polishing can cause distortions in the glass. You may be able
to have the chips repaired though. I've had quite a few filled over the
years.

jim beam

Tali wrote:
> I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.

good informative post. honda do indeed buy in their glass from outside,
and do their own q.c., so there's no reason aftermarket won't be just as
good if it comes from the right source. as usual, it's the cheap stuff
to be careful about.

in the old days, glass from pilkington was /the/ best, but i don't know
if they still do auto glass. is ppg a subsidiary of pilkington perhaps?

> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>>> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>>>
>>> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>>>
>>> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>>> after-market type ?
>>>
>>> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

jim beam

Tali wrote:
> I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.

good informative post. honda do indeed buy in their glass from outside,
and do their own q.c., so there's no reason aftermarket won't be just as
good if it comes from the right source. as usual, it's the cheap stuff
to be careful about.

in the old days, glass from pilkington was /the/ best, but i don't know
if they still do auto glass. is ppg a subsidiary of pilkington perhaps?

> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>>> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>>>
>>> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>>>
>>> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>>> after-market type ?
>>>
>>> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

jim beam

Tali wrote:
> I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.

good informative post. honda do indeed buy in their glass from outside,
and do their own q.c., so there's no reason aftermarket won't be just as
good if it comes from the right source. as usual, it's the cheap stuff
to be careful about.

in the old days, glass from pilkington was /the/ best, but i don't know
if they still do auto glass. is ppg a subsidiary of pilkington perhaps?

> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>>> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>>>
>>> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>>>
>>> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>>> after-market type ?
>>>
>>> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

jim beam

Tali wrote:
> I worked for an auto glass distributor for three years. Aftermarket
> glass is perfectly fine and definitely cheaper. If this is a 2006
> Accord and has been pitted bad enough that the windshield needs
> replacing and not just repaired, chances are the OE Honda glass is no
> better or worse than Aftermarket. Truth be told, it is often
> manufactured in the same plant. Most Honda dealerships have contracts
> set up with auto glass shop like Speedy Glass or Apple Auto Glass and
> most of the time they prefer the Aftermarket because of the price.
> Personally, I'm familiar with Giant Glass, but as long as they are
> qualified professionals who use the right equipment, you are in good
> hands. If you are still a little nervous about going to one of these
> shops, just stop in and ask them some questions. I'll give you some
> pointers. While you are asking questions, casually watch the
> technicians at work. They should be wearing surgical type gloves when
> handling windshields that are being installed. Oils from hands and
> fingers can cause the urethane to not adhere to the glass. Plus,
> urethane contains chemicals that can irritate the skin. Ask how long
> it will take before you can drive your vehicle. Windshield urethanes
> require a "cure time" to harden. Newer types of urethanes will set in
> an hour two, longer in winter. A good technician will explain this to
> you
> Take a look around the shop. Is the work area fairly clean and free of
> contaminants?
> If all else fails, ask your insurance company or Honda service manager
> who they recommend.

good informative post. honda do indeed buy in their glass from outside,
and do their own q.c., so there's no reason aftermarket won't be just as
good if it comes from the right source. as usual, it's the cheap stuff
to be careful about.

in the old days, glass from pilkington was /the/ best, but i don't know
if they still do auto glass. is ppg a subsidiary of pilkington perhaps?

> One more comment on OE vs. Aftermarket, If you have a peek at
> manufacturer's stamp on any 03-05 Cavalier, Sunfire, it is made by a
> company called Crinimex out of Mexico. GM found that is was more cost
> effective to install at their factories then PPG glass. Oh, and PPG
> also supplies aftermarket glass. The only time I have found that OE is
> better than Aftermarket is when the factory glass has a solar
> reflective coating, i.e. Chevy Venture, and the windshield with solar
> coating is about 3 times the price as the Chinese version without it.
> Dave L wrote:
>> "Robert11" <rgsros@notme.com> wrote in message
>> news:_OKdnf5DLeC9W3XZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>>> Hello:
>>>
>>> Have a 2006 Accord that looks like it will need a replacement front
>>> windshield due to a lot of rocks impacting it over the year.
>>>
>>> Would Giant Glass be O.K. to use ?
>>>
>>> I guess I'm wondering if they use "real" Honda approved glass, or an
>>> after-market type ?
>>>
>>> Should I have it done by a Honda dealership ?
>>>
>>> Any thoughts on would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Bob
>> Don't know about Giant Glass but I've seen aftermarket windshields get
>> pitted easily by rocks, where an OEM windshield still looks clear.
>> Unfortunately I couldn't tell you how to look for good glass.
>>
>> -Dave
>

Dave L

> good if it comes from the right source. as usual, it's the cheap stuff to
> be careful about.

Bingo! How do you tell it's the cheap stuff?