Replace or clean EGR?
11-21-2006 | 10:45 AM
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Re: Replace or clean EGR?
Seth wrote:
> "High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>> bbtaco wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
>> This won't do the OP any good. The extended warranty is good for only
>> 80,000 miles, but this Accord has 170,000 miles on it.
>
> But the detailed instructions on what they do are there, so it's a good
> start.
>
>
Is the procedure essentially the same for a '98 Odyssey EX?
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>> bbtaco wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
>> This won't do the OP any good. The extended warranty is good for only
>> 80,000 miles, but this Accord has 170,000 miles on it.
>
> But the detailed instructions on what they do are there, so it's a good
> start.
>
>
Is the procedure essentially the same for a '98 Odyssey EX?
11-21-2006 | 04:14 PM
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Re: Replace or clean EGR?
All that is great but the problem is a common and well documented problem on
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
11-21-2006 | 04:14 PM
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Re: Replace or clean EGR?
All that is great but the problem is a common and well documented problem on
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
11-21-2006 | 04:14 PM
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Re: Replace or clean EGR?
All that is great but the problem is a common and well documented problem on
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
that engine. Honda drilled the port out and installed a coated sleeve to
correct the problem. The only way to fix it is to remove the manifold and
clean out the port. He could probably get the kit with sleeve from a dealer
and have a dealer or mechanic install it if he does not have the ability to
do it....
"Greg Campbell" <ggeonerdd@ccoxx.nnett> wrote in message
news:7Ps8h.21760$fz1.5549@newsfe15.phx...
> Seth wrote:
>
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>
> Before you start drilling, make sure the EGR valve or control unit isn't
> having problems. Insufficient vacuum or a leaky diaphragm might produce
> the same code. (I don't know that for sure!)
>
> Basic troubleshooting is straightforward. Get one of those hand vacuum
> pumps with a vac meter. Insert a 'T' fitting and monitor the the vacuum
> being provided to the valve while the car is in motion. Then remove the
> valve and use the pump to pull vac on the unit. Observe its motion, and
> watch for leaks. Note how much vac is required to lift the valve, and
> compare to the control box output. The system may not need full lift, but
> the valve should be at least partially open when the car is running.
>
> Also, check the rate of vacuum application. I chased my tail for several
> weekends troubleshooting a constricted EGR solenoid passage. The vac would
> arrive, and the valve would get opened, but not quickly enough to keep the
> ECU happy.
>
> If all this is working, then start thinking about drilling and reaming....
>
> -Greg
11-28-2006 | 10:49 AM
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>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
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>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
11-28-2006 | 10:49 AM
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> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
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>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
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>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
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> "Seth" <seth_lermanNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:VF98h.5865$w%7.3607@newsfe11.lga...
>> 2001 EX-V6 Accord with 170,000 miles. Just got a P0401 code. The check
>> engine light went out on it's own (TCS light was also on when this
>> occurred) then lit up again a week later.
>>
>> Trying to find information on the procedure for cleaning the EGR. Not
>> much out there. Found 1 article stating special tools are required.
>> http://www.faqfarm.com/Q/How_do_you_...d_2000_V6_2_Dr
>>
>> Anybody attempt this with the standard tools one might find in a typical
>> home garage? Trying to determine if I should attempt this myself or just
>> buy a new EGR. They're expensive ($200 plus) but maybe not depending on
>> how much effort it takes to clean and drill it out and what the special
>> reamer costs, especially if I'm only going to use it one.
>>
>> Any insight from those experienced in this would be appreciated.
>>
> http://www.98exl.com/tsb/CG/99-085%2...20Clogging.pdf
Thank you so much!
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