Rear wiper on a sedan?
10-24-2009 | 12:00 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Tegger" <invalid@invalid.inv> wrote in message
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> Such a thing actually exists. And I took a picture of it.
>
> http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/skyline_wiper.jpg
>
> This Nissan Skyline of unknown vintage lives across the street from where
> I
> work, and I discovered it just last week. What a cool car. I always
> wondered why Nissan never sold it in Canada or the US.
>
> --
> Tegger
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Often wondered too. When I was stationed in Japan in 1967-69, the Skyline
2000 was a great sports sedan with a 2.0 liter SOHC I6 with a 5 speed. The
versions I recall came with the dual Solex copy of the Weber carb with a
dual exhaust. They ran like stink and handled. The car was originally made
by the Prince Motor Car Co which was bought out by Datsun (Nissan). I used
to autocross against them with a modified Sunbean Tiger in Tokyo Sports Car
Club. I have a picture somewhere of the Skyline back then with the hood
open.
10-24-2009 | 12:23 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
> happening directly behind you?
That is correct. There is no need to look out the rear window, if one
keeps their eyes moving taking in what is going on around their vehicle.
I've been doing it for forty years now and no incidents for well over
two and a half million miles.
> If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
> Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
> have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
>
> If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
> Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
> rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
> see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
> up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
>
> All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
>
> So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
> eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
>
> But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
attention.
> That's ing insane.
Untrue.
>
> Are you saying that you never look in the rear view mirror to see what's
> happening directly behind you?
That is correct. There is no need to look out the rear window, if one
keeps their eyes moving taking in what is going on around their vehicle.
I've been doing it for forty years now and no incidents for well over
two and a half million miles.
> If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
> Not that you'll ever try this, but properly set mirrors mean you don't
> have to twist your neck around to see what's happening around you.
>
> If your side mirrors are set properly, you have zero blind spots.
> Everything that's happening around you, you can see by looking in the
> rear view mirror, or as the cars exit that and come up beside you you'll
> see them in the side mirror, or as the cars exit that and come further
> up beside you you'll see them in your peripheral vision.
>
> All without ever moving your head farther than over to your side mirrors.
>
> So in that regard, there's zero reason to twist around and plant your
> eyeballs directly outside a rear window, yes.
>
> But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
attention.
> That's ing insane.
Untrue.
10-24-2009 | 03:08 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
In article <hbv9im$v8k$1@news.datemas.de>,
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
>
> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
test.
> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> > there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
>
> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
> attention.
ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
set.
There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
your blind spot.
But you know that, because you're just trolling.
Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
>
> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming long
> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
test.
> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening back
> > there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
>
> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep checking
> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
> attention.
ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
set.
There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
your blind spot.
But you know that, because you're just trolling.
10-24-2009 | 04:51 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> I've been driving for 35 years, and I'll never say never.
>
> I did say "have never had", I can't see a need in the future to look
> at the rear window either.
Might as well do away with it.
>
10-24-2009 | 05:51 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Brian Smith wrote:
> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Might as well do away with it.
>
> In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
> use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in it.
Ideal location for a 'Wink' or panoramic mirror.
> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Might as well do away with it.
>
> In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
> use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in it.
Ideal location for a 'Wink' or panoramic mirror.
10-24-2009 | 06:20 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-ACE985.15082624102009@news.eternal-september.org:
> In article <hbv9im$v8k$1@news.datemas.de>,
> Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>
>> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
>>
>> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming
>> long
>> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such
> a test.
>
>
>> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
>> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening
>> > back there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
>>
>> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep
>> checking
>> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
>> attention.
>
> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.
>
> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind
> you, they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside
> you in your blind spot.
>
> But you know that, because you're just trolling.
>
outside mirrors have a limited view compared to the inside rearview mirror.
Neglecting to use that wider view is unwise,and IMO,criminal.
The right side is even one of those convex mirrors that shrink the image
and distort the apparent distance.Anything farther than a few car lengths
makes other vehicles virtually invisible.Outside mirrors are strictly for
nearby vehicles.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
news:elmop-ACE985.15082624102009@news.eternal-september.org:
> In article <hbv9im$v8k$1@news.datemas.de>,
> Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>
>> > If that's the case, I'll remember to give you a WIDE berth.
>>
>> No need to worry about me and my vehicle, I'll see you coming
>> long
>> before you're close enough to be a problem. :^)
>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such
> a test.
>
>
>> > But not to use a rear view mirror, not to see things that the side
>> > mirror can't show you? Not to have a heads up on what's happening
>> > back there BEFORE the action comes into a side mirror?
>>
>> But, one can know what is going on behind them if they keep
>> checking
>> their mirrors properly. Nothing can sneak up on you, if you're paying
>> attention.
>
> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.
>
> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind
> you, they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside
> you in your blind spot.
>
> But you know that, because you're just trolling.
>
outside mirrors have a limited view compared to the inside rearview mirror.
Neglecting to use that wider view is unwise,and IMO,criminal.
The right side is even one of those convex mirrors that shrink the image
and distort the apparent distance.Anything farther than a few car lengths
makes other vehicles virtually invisible.Outside mirrors are strictly for
nearby vehicles.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
localnet
dot com
10-24-2009 | 06:23 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
> test.
You're wrong on both counts, but whatever makes you happy. :^)
> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.
My rear windows are tinted deep black, so the inside mirror is a moot
point. The side mirrors are adjusted properly to allow full view of
what's going on around the vehicle.
> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
> they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
> your blind spot.
It's sad that you aren't able to grasp the reality of what I am telling
is the truth.
> But you know that, because you're just trolling.
Again you're incorrect. Don't worry about it, it works for me and it
has for years and will continue to do so for years to come.
>
> I bet you anything you want that a fairly simple test would show that
> you have no idea by and large what's happening behind and beside you.
> I'll also bet you anything you want that you would never agree to such a
> test.
You're wrong on both counts, but whatever makes you happy. :^)
> ALL mirrors, to include the rear view mirror (to see what's going on
> behind you--through the rear window) and the side mirrors, if properly
> set.
My rear windows are tinted deep black, so the inside mirror is a moot
point. The side mirrors are adjusted properly to allow full view of
what's going on around the vehicle.
> There is no way that side mirrors can show everything that's going on
> behind you. And if they're showing ANYTHING that's going on behind you,
> they're not at all able to show ANYTHING that's going on beside you in
> your blind spot.
It's sad that you aren't able to grasp the reality of what I am telling
is the truth.
> But you know that, because you're just trolling.
Again you're incorrect. Don't worry about it, it works for me and it
has for years and will continue to do so for years to come.
10-24-2009 | 10:43 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
Bob Jones wrote:
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror is
>> to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end you. In
>> either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT
>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
My ancient automatic Civic has a rear wiper/washer that actually still
works but it's just something else that will break. I could well do
without either.
JT
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>> Joe wrote:
>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>
>>
>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view mirror is
>> to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to rear end you. In
>> either case, there won't be much that you can do about it.
>>
>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>> information.
>>
>> JT
>
> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
My ancient automatic Civic has a rear wiper/washer that actually still
works but it's just something else that will break. I could well do
without either.
JT
10-24-2009 | 10:45 PM
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Tegger wrote:
> "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in
> news:005e1388$0$13119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>>> information.
>>>
>>> JT
>> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.
>
> When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
> view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
What????
Her car is not under cover?????
You're livin' on dangerous ground...
<G>
JT
> "Bob Jones" <email@me.not> wrote in
> news:005e1388$0$13119$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oo6dnREYldqKnn_XnZ2dnUVZ_s1i4p2d@giganews.com ...
>>> Brian Smith wrote:
>>>> Joe wrote:
>>>>> Please, do not drive near me.
>>>> Why are you dangerous?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Kind of amusing... About the only use for an interior rear view
>>> mirror is to spot the cop that's chasin' you or the clown about to
>>> rear end you. In either case, there won't be much that you can do
>>> about it.
>>>
>>> I agree, side view mirrors are far more valuable for pertinent
>>> information.
>>>
>>> JT
>> I drive a coupe with rear wiper. It is quite useless.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> You must not live in an area where the rear window gets dew or rain on it.
>
> When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the rear
> view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
What????
Her car is not under cover?????
You're livin' on dangerous ground...
<G>
JT
10-25-2009 | 09:13 AM
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Grumpy AuContraire <GrumpyOne@GrumpyvilleNOT.com> wrote in
news:vuudnaSqxullJ37XnZ2dnUVZ_oti4p2d@giganews.com :
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the
>> rear view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
>
>
> What????
>
> Her car is not under cover?????
>
> You're livin' on dangerous ground...
Oh, it IS undercover. It's cleverly disguised as a Toyota when it's really
a Tercel.
>
> <G>
>
Back at ya.
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Tegger
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news:vuudnaSqxullJ37XnZ2dnUVZ_oti4p2d@giganews.com :
> Tegger wrote:
>>
>> When I drive my wife's Tercel (which is a sedan), I really miss the
>> rear view the Integra's rear wiper gives.
>
>
> What????
>
> Her car is not under cover?????
>
> You're livin' on dangerous ground...
Oh, it IS undercover. It's cleverly disguised as a Toyota when it's really
a Tercel.
>
> <G>
>
Back at ya.
--
Tegger
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10-25-2009 | 08:13 PM
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Re: Rear wiper on a sedan?
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in message
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> Stewart wrote:
>>
>> Might as well do away with it.
>
> In the past I have taken the inside mirror out of the vehicle. Now I
> use it to mount the E-Pass on it and because it has a thermometer in
> it.
I meant the window.
10-25-2009 | 09:40 PM
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Thus spake Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> :
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
>> When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
>> quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
>> defrosters.
>
> A rear window isn't even a necessity, that why we have outside mirrors.
Ah, and you can see someone directly behind you who's, shall we say,
10 feet away?
There's a reason those 18 wheelers have signs on them that say "if you
can't see my mirrors, I can't see you."
--
- dillon I am not invalid
"Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long
>Joe wrote:
>>
>> I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
>> When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
>> quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
>> defrosters.
>
> A rear window isn't even a necessity, that why we have outside mirrors.
Ah, and you can see someone directly behind you who's, shall we say,
10 feet away?
There's a reason those 18 wheelers have signs on them that say "if you
can't see my mirrors, I can't see you."
--
- dillon I am not invalid
"Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
-- Lazurus Long
10-26-2009 | 02:45 AM
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"Dillon Pyron" <invaliddmpyron@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Thus spake Brian Smith <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> :
>
>>Joe wrote:
>>>
>>> I found rear wipers to be very useful on my minivans in the winter.
>>> When driving in light snow, it would accumulate on the rear window. A
>>> quick swish of the wiper took care of it much quicker than the
>>> defrosters.
>>
>> A rear window isn't even a necessity, that why we have outside mirrors.
>
> Ah, and you can see someone directly behind you who's, shall we say,
> 10 feet away?
>
> There's a reason those 18 wheelers have signs on them that say "if you
> can't see my mirrors, I can't see you."
> --
>
> - dillon I am not invalid
>
> "Always shoot first. At the very least you'll
> distract the guy enough to make the second one count"
> -- Lazurus Long
I can see most of my 16' utility trailer in both my left and right mirrors
when I am towing it. I'll admit that I still use the rear view mirror as a
third source of rearward vision. The more you can see the better off you
are.
Dave D