"bill" <ford_prefect42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...

> The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.
>

It never went operational? Are you sure about that?

 

"bill" <ford_prefect42@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...

> The most recent planned
> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> stop.
>

It never went operational? Are you sure about that?

 

On Oct 27, 8:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > The most recent planned
> > nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> > never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> > stop.
>
> It never went operational? Are you sure about that?

Well, that's the way I remembered it, however, on further
research, unit 2 never went operational. Unit 1 merely suffered 4
years of delays in going operational after construction was
completed. I stand corrected.

 

On Oct 27, 8:16 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "bill" <ford_prefec...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193456816.362356.101020@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > The most recent planned
> > nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> > never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> > stop.
>
> It never went operational? Are you sure about that?

Well, that's the way I remembered it, however, on further
research, unit 2 never went operational. Unit 1 merely suffered 4
years of delays in going operational after construction was
completed. I stand corrected.

 

Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.
>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> bleeding hearts.

Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
"Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
favorite of mine.

> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis.

> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.

Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
"education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.

Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."

To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.

 

Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> F.H. wrote:
>> bill wrote:
>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>> stop.
>>
>> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>
> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> bleeding hearts.

Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
"Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
favorite of mine.

> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>
> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......

I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis.

> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> to be done.

Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
"education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.

Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."

To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.

 

On Oct 27, 10:19 am, "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> > F.H. wrote:
> >> bill wrote:
> >>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> >>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> >>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> >>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> >>> stop.
>
> >> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>
> > Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> > did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> > left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> > contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> > bleeding hearts.
>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.
>
> > Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0/24/notes1024...
>
> > Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> > on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> > or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis.
>
> > Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> > to be done.
>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.
>
> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."
>
> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They think they are "managing" us just fine.
They are lining their pokets with death and destruction while they
hide out underground.
http://www.fknnewz.com/signup.php

 

On Oct 27, 10:19 am, "F.H." <connec...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Dan Bloomquist wrote:
> > F.H. wrote:
> >> bill wrote:
> >>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
> >>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
> >>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
> >>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
> >>> stop.
>
> >> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>
> > Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where
> > did the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal
> > left'. So, does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a
> > contradiction to me as 'owners' are typically business people, not
> > bleeding hearts.
>
> Dan, you snipped everything but what I *didn't* agree with. Why snip
> "Welcome to Rome, circa 2007" and then post a link that says pretty much
> the same thing? I'm all for wind farms and Mark Morford is a long time
> favorite of mine.
>
> > Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>
> >http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...0/24/notes1024...
>
> > Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all
> > on this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a
> > or it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>
> I'm with you except I pass on the pop psychoanalysis.
>
> > Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
> > to be done.
>
> Heh, you have identified the key element, not "brain death" or
> "education" but 'believing.' Seems like those in power these days only
> believe in profit and killing and feeding *that* beast is done through
> the manipulation of belief (and it damn sure ain't by the *liberal* media.
>
> Morford strikes a cord with me in saying "it might be no stretch at all
> to say the biggest threat facing America is perhaps not global warming,
> not perpetual warmongering, not garbage food or low-level radiation or
> way too much Lindsay Lohan, but a populace far too ignorant to know how
> to properly manage any of it, much less change it all for the better."
>
> To Rome, circa 2007, add: foreign wars.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

They think they are "managing" us just fine.
They are lining their pokets with death and destruction while they
hide out underground.
http://www.fknnewz.com/signup.php

 

n5hsr wrote:
> "Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
> news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
>> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
>> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
>> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>>
>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
>> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
>> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>>
>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
>> to be done.
>
> Dear Dumbass,
>
> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.

The public is *not* primarily informed by newspapers and the media that
most influences public opinion is mostly right wing. Rupert Murdoch is
hardly "liberal" nor is Clear Channel who owns over 1200 radio stations
in the United States. The so called "liberal" LA Times sports a bevy of
right wing columnist and recently ran a piece by Niall Ferguson entitled
"One Strike, Iran Could be Wiped Out."

> Our 'present condition' is this:
>
> 1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
> Communists did in Russia.

Gosh! How did you manipulate your way around the "liberal" media to
find these crucial 'facts?'

> 2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
> because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
> caving to 1.

LOL, right.

> 3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
> something else is happening.

*Something* is spinning that's for sure. Ask your doctor about
Meclizine (Antivert�).


> 4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
> and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil

Merciful snip / / / / /

 

n5hsr wrote:
> "Dan Bloomquist" <public21@lakeweb.com> wrote in message
> news:P6BUi.19712$ya1.10386@news02.roc.ny...
>> F.H. wrote:
>>> bill wrote:
>>>> In the town where I live, there is a planned 500 MW windfarm. It
>>>> is being hotly disputed on NIMBY grounds. The most recent planned
>>>> nuclear power plant (seabrook) in the US was fully constructed and
>>>> never went operational due to environmentalism. This crap has got to
>>>> stop.
>>> Heh, an accurate assessment.
>> Really?! So, if a wind farm is shut down and seabrook is kaput, where did
>> the information come from to do so? Now, I expect 'the liberal left'. So,
>> does this 'the liberal left' own the media? Sounds like a contradiction to
>> me as 'owners' are typically business people, not bleeding hearts.
>>
>> Why are folks on usenet so braindead? Oh, maybe you are well educated.....
>>
>> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...otes102407.DTL
>>
>> Get off your high horse of being better than the next guy. 'We' are all on
>> this planet together.... Nothing is accomplished by saying we could'a or
>> it is 'their' fault. It just feeds a puny ego......
>>
>> Start addressing our present condition if you believe there is something
>> to be done.
>
> Dear Dumbass,
>
> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.

The public is *not* primarily informed by newspapers and the media that
most influences public opinion is mostly right wing. Rupert Murdoch is
hardly "liberal" nor is Clear Channel who owns over 1200 radio stations
in the United States. The so called "liberal" LA Times sports a bevy of
right wing columnist and recently ran a piece by Niall Ferguson entitled
"One Strike, Iran Could be Wiped Out."

> Our 'present condition' is this:
>
> 1. The Democrats want to be in power and run things just like the
> Communists did in Russia.

Gosh! How did you manipulate your way around the "liberal" media to
find these crucial 'facts?'

> 2. The Republicans have lost their way and got whipped at the polls in 06,
> because the average American doesn't want 1 and the Republicans appear to be
> caving to 1.

LOL, right.

> 3. The media are trying to hide fact 1 and 2 by spinning it to appear that
> something else is happening.

*Something* is spinning that's for sure. Ask your doctor about
Meclizine (Antivert�).


> 4. We could be tapping ANWR, and drilling for oil off the coast of Florida
> and California instead of paying ragheads for their oil

Merciful snip / / / / /

 

n5hsr wrote:

> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.


New Item:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 � The head of the Federal Communications Commission
has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media
ownership rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to
own both a newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.

Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
the next two months � a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
for some executives of media conglomerates.

Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.

http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

 

n5hsr wrote:

> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.


New Item:

WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 � The head of the Federal Communications Commission
has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media
ownership rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to
own both a newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.

Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
the next two months � a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
for some executives of media conglomerates.

Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.

http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

 

"F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g5LUi.394$%r.365@trnddc01...
> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.
>
> New Item:
>
> WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 � The head of the Federal Communications Commission
> has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media ownership
> rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to own both a
> newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.
>
> Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
> the next two months � a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
> for some executives of media conglomerates.
>
> Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
> complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
> lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
> both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.
>
> http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

Great news for Clear Channel, which operates the right wing radio station
here that pukes Limbaugh onto the airwaves.

 

"F.H." <connectu2@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:g5LUi.394$%r.365@trnddc01...
> n5hsr wrote:
>
>> Yes, the "liberal left" owns most of the media in this country.
>
> New Item:
>
> WASHINGTON, Oct. 17 � The head of the Federal Communications Commission
> has circulated an ambitious plan to relax the decades-old media ownership
> rules, including repealing a rule that forbids a company to own both a
> newspaper and a television or radio station in the same city.
>
> Kevin J. Martin, chairman of the commission, wants to repeal the rule in
> the next two months � a plan that, if successful, would be a big victory
> for some executives of media conglomerates.
>
> Among them are Samuel Zell, the Chicago investor who is seeking to
> complete a buyout of the Tribune Company, and Rupert Murdoch, who has
> lobbied against the rule for years so that he can continue controlling
> both The New York Post and a Fox television station in New York.
>
> http://action.freepress.net/campaign/fcc_oversight

Great news for Clear Channel, which operates the right wing radio station
here that pukes Limbaugh onto the airwaves.

 

Going back to the original post. Hachi, dont get too upset, that is
exactly how they want *US* to feel. So there will be war and then
prices of oil will sky rocket.. again and again.

The best way to solve the problem is fight fire with fire. Don't buy
oil from them, build more nuclear power plants, nuclear radiation
waste will be used as WMD, use more electric cars, electric cars
recharge from nuclear power plants. No oil , no war, no pollution, no
. Its either that or use the technology US have learned from
Roswell.

Sweet!