Decided to take the car into the shop on Wednesday. They looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Came back into town from the holiday, went to pick up the car from the shop firsDt thing this morning and it didn't start. Same symptoms! So now they are attempting to troubleshoot again. Thanks for all of the replies, I don't know what to do if the shop can't figure out what is wrong, I guess replace the wires, dist cap and plugs is a good start
PS: Car has 113,000 mile

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phb3 wrote:
> Decided to take the car into the shop on Wednesday. They looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Came back into town from the holiday, went to pick up the car from the shop firsDt thing this morning and it didn't start. Same symptoms! So now they are attempting to troubleshoot again. Thanks for all of the replies, I don't know what to do if the shop can't figure out what is wrong, I guess replace the wires, dist cap and plugs is a good start.
> PS: Car has 113,000 miles
>

"Not starting" can mean so many things -- I don't see previous posts so
you'll need to be more specific and actually tell us about the
symptoms.
Does the starter turn the car over but the car doesn't start? Or when
you turn the key nothing happens?
Check www.tegger.com and follow the not starting suggestions. Then
report back with the findings.

Remco

 

phb3 wrote:
>
> Decided to take the car into the shop on Wednesday. They looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Came back into town from the holiday, went to pick up the car from the shop firsDt thing this morning and it didn't start. Same symptoms! So now they are attempting to troubleshoot again. Thanks for all of the replies, I don't know what to do if the shop can't figure out what is wrong, I guess replace the wires, dist cap and plugs is a good start.
> PS: Car has 113,000 miles
>
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There's no need to 'troubleshoot it' Your fuel rail holds several ounces
of pressurized fuel. It will slowly leak into the engine and totally
flood it. That's why (when you got it to start) it took a while to run
properly, as you described. It probably blew a black cloud too.

Read my previous post: It happened to me, and cost me a major headache
until i figured it out when i read the Owner's Manual . . .

> You've got one LEAKY INJECTOR and it's flooding your engine when you
> leave it sit for a day or more. The way you can prove it is to use the
> Owner's Manual solution for 'flooded engine'. Next time it happens, hold
> the pedal to the floor and crank it for up to 15 seconds at a time.
>
> The cure is to run a can of Techron injector cleaner thru it, or maybe a
> few tanks of gasohol. Gasohol worked for my Odyssey (same engine). I run
> a tank of Gasohol thru it a few times a year now just to be sure.

Stop throwing money at it. Show the dealer this message if they are
clueless.

'Curly'

 

'Curly Q. Links' wrote:
> phb3 wrote:
> >
> > Decided to take the car into the shop on Wednesday. They looked at it and couldn't find anything wrong with it. Came back into town from the holiday, went to pick up the car from the shop firsDt thing this morning and it didn't start. Same symptoms! So now they are attempting to troubleshoot again. Thanks for all of the replies, I don't know what to do if the shop can't figure out what is wrong, I guess replace the wires, dist cap and plugs is a good start.
> > PS: Car has 113,000 miles
> >
> -------------------------------
>
> There's no need to 'troubleshoot it' Your fuel rail holds several ounces
> of pressurized fuel. It will slowly leak into the engine and totally
> flood it. That's why (when you got it to start) it took a while to run
> properly, as you described. It probably blew a black cloud too.
>
> Read my previous post: It happened to me, and cost me a major headache
> until i figured it out when i read the Owner's Manual . . .
>
> > You've got one LEAKY INJECTOR and it's flooding your engine when you
> > leave it sit for a day or more. The way you can prove it is to use the
> > Owner's Manual solution for 'flooded engine'. Next time it happens, hold
> > the pedal to the floor and crank it for up to 15 seconds at a time.
> >
> > The cure is to run a can of Techron injector cleaner thru it, or maybe a
> > few tanks of gasohol. Gasohol worked for my Odyssey (same engine). I run
> > a tank of Gasohol thru it a few times a year now just to be sure.
>
> Stop throwing money at it. Show the dealer this message if they are
> clueless.
>
> 'Curly'

I didn't see his previous post. If that's what was going on: good
advice - follow it.

 

were these the cars that had a run of intermittent fuel pump relays?

Somebody posted a web sire about how to resolder the joints...

Mark

 

Mark wrote:
> were these the cars that had a run of intermittent fuel pump relays?
>
> Somebody posted a web sire about how to resolder the joints...
>

True, that is a common problem but most likely not related to this one:

if he has the car coughing to life with a black cloud puffing out of
the exhaust most likely the car is flooded. A leaky injector will cause
that - Curly's right on the money with his suggestion.

He must have made another post at some point relating the same problem.
When one posts, it is good to tell the whole story so that no one is
wasting time answering.