On Apr 22, 9:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f0gv2b$if3$1@aioe.org...
>
> > In TX, you are completely justified in killing someone to defend personal
> > property. Only state in the union that this is so.
>
> > Not a good thing, IMO, but it does serve as a deterrent.
>
> Getting there in Arizona. A homeowner may assume mortal danger if facing an
> intruder in his home, whether a weapon is seen or not. Changed to that last
> year IIRC. In Phoenix a few years back a car owner was not prosecuted for
> shooting a fleeing man who had been trying to break into his car.
>
Ok. I realized the book quoted is tailored to california law.
As the texans would probably say:
"california ... where women are like women... and men
that way too"

> The first apartment I had, in Oakland CA, was in a very rough neighborhood.
> My apartment was burglarized three times in a two week period, but nobody
> ever bothered anybody's car on the street. A quick death was too much to
> hope for if caught.

yep. oakland comes across as a screwy place to live in.
what were they hoping for if they get caught in the apartment?
just curious how different that's from screwing with someone's
car.

 

On Apr 22, 9:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
wrote:
> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f0gv2b$if3$1@aioe.org...
>
> > In TX, you are completely justified in killing someone to defend personal
> > property. Only state in the union that this is so.
>
> > Not a good thing, IMO, but it does serve as a deterrent.
>
> Getting there in Arizona. A homeowner may assume mortal danger if facing an
> intruder in his home, whether a weapon is seen or not. Changed to that last
> year IIRC. In Phoenix a few years back a car owner was not prosecuted for
> shooting a fleeing man who had been trying to break into his car.
>
Ok. I realized the book quoted is tailored to california law.
As the texans would probably say:
"california ... where women are like women... and men
that way too"

> The first apartment I had, in Oakland CA, was in a very rough neighborhood.
> My apartment was burglarized three times in a two week period, but nobody
> ever bothered anybody's car on the street. A quick death was too much to
> hope for if caught.

yep. oakland comes across as a screwy place to live in.
what were they hoping for if they get caught in the apartment?
just curious how different that's from screwing with someone's
car.

 

<isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177306578.227855.160960@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Apr 22, 9:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f0gv2b$if3$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> > In TX, you are completely justified in killing someone to defend
>> > personal
>> > property. Only state in the union that this is so.
>>
>> > Not a good thing, IMO, but it does serve as a deterrent.
>>
>> Getting there in Arizona. A homeowner may assume mortal danger if facing
>> an
>> intruder in his home, whether a weapon is seen or not. Changed to that
>> last
>> year IIRC. In Phoenix a few years back a car owner was not prosecuted for
>> shooting a fleeing man who had been trying to break into his car.
>>
> Ok. I realized the book quoted is tailored to california law.
> As the texans would probably say:
> "california ... where women are like women... and men
> that way too"
>
>> The first apartment I had, in Oakland CA, was in a very rough
>> neighborhood.
>> My apartment was burglarized three times in a two week period, but nobody
>> ever bothered anybody's car on the street. A quick death was too much to
>> hope for if caught.
>
> yep. oakland comes across as a screwy place to live in.
> what were they hoping for if they get caught in the apartment?
> just curious how different that's from screwing with someone's
> car.
>
>
In the apartment they were expecting to dispose of the residents quickly and
privately. They wouldn't come un-armed, you know. It's all a matter of who
gets the drop on whom.

Oakland was certainly screwy then, dunno about now. When I lived there the
police sent up their first helicopter and it was shot down. Those were the
days of Angela Davis and the Black Panthers. The police were just another
armed gang roaming the streets. We had a race riot in my high school, and
the police refused to come on campus. A few months later the school library
was firebombed and the police still wouldn't escort the firemen on campus,
so they (wisely) didn't go. It's a good place to be from.

Mike

 

<isquat@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1177306578.227855.160960@p77g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Apr 22, 9:09 pm, "Michael Pardee" <michaeltn...@cybertrails.com>
> wrote:
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:f0gv2b$if3$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> > In TX, you are completely justified in killing someone to defend
>> > personal
>> > property. Only state in the union that this is so.
>>
>> > Not a good thing, IMO, but it does serve as a deterrent.
>>
>> Getting there in Arizona. A homeowner may assume mortal danger if facing
>> an
>> intruder in his home, whether a weapon is seen or not. Changed to that
>> last
>> year IIRC. In Phoenix a few years back a car owner was not prosecuted for
>> shooting a fleeing man who had been trying to break into his car.
>>
> Ok. I realized the book quoted is tailored to california law.
> As the texans would probably say:
> "california ... where women are like women... and men
> that way too"
>
>> The first apartment I had, in Oakland CA, was in a very rough
>> neighborhood.
>> My apartment was burglarized three times in a two week period, but nobody
>> ever bothered anybody's car on the street. A quick death was too much to
>> hope for if caught.
>
> yep. oakland comes across as a screwy place to live in.
> what were they hoping for if they get caught in the apartment?
> just curious how different that's from screwing with someone's
> car.
>
>
In the apartment they were expecting to dispose of the residents quickly and
privately. They wouldn't come un-armed, you know. It's all a matter of who
gets the drop on whom.

Oakland was certainly screwy then, dunno about now. When I lived there the
police sent up their first helicopter and it was shot down. Those were the
days of Angela Davis and the Black Panthers. The police were just another
armed gang roaming the streets. We had a race riot in my high school, and
the police refused to come on campus. A few months later the school library
was firebombed and the police still wouldn't escort the firemen on campus,
so they (wisely) didn't go. It's a good place to be from.

Mike