he has to mean the psycological experience of getting less gas mileage. You
know, the one where you bolt on HP and then you feel you have to drag race
from light to light. The constant mashing of the accelerator will surely
cause poor gas mileage!!!


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
newse-dnXEhCpz0z-_cRVn-vg@rogers.com...
>
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:2K2dnYRdlc3_YOzcRVn-uA@rogers.com...
> > KiwiinOz wrote:
> >
> >> I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
> >> Any noticable improvements found out there?
> >>
> >
> > If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
> >
> > Cosmin
>
> Oh please, do explain.
>
>

 

he has to mean the psycological experience of getting less gas mileage. You
know, the one where you bolt on HP and then you feel you have to drag race
from light to light. The constant mashing of the accelerator will surely
cause poor gas mileage!!!


"Steve Bigelow" <stevebigelowXXX@rogers.com> wrote in message
newse-dnXEhCpz0z-_cRVn-vg@rogers.com...
>
> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:2K2dnYRdlc3_YOzcRVn-uA@rogers.com...
> > KiwiinOz wrote:
> >
> >> I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
> >> Any noticable improvements found out there?
> >>
> >
> > If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
> >
> > Cosmin
>
> Oh please, do explain.
>
>

 

Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.

"KiwiinOz" <yakandjill@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
news:67d2671cd0299134147db0b0e7d1c2e5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
> and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
>

 

Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.

"KiwiinOz" <yakandjill@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
news:67d2671cd0299134147db0b0e7d1c2e5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
> and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
>

 

I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice much
other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I really like the
new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares the hell out of
people.


"test" <test@btc.ctc.edu> wrote in message
news:cl0ndt$t6k$1@quasar.ctc.edu...
> Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
> The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
> short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.
>
> "KiwiinOz" <yakandjill@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> news:67d2671cd0299134147db0b0e7d1c2e5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
>> and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
>>
>
>

 

I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice much
other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I really like the
new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares the hell out of
people.


"test" <test@btc.ctc.edu> wrote in message
news:cl0ndt$t6k$1@quasar.ctc.edu...
> Yes they definitely work, my boyfriend used to work in a performance shop.
> The best is using a cold air intake, preferably by AEM. If not then just a
> short ram intake will be good. Adds horsepower.
>
> "KiwiinOz" <yakandjill@smartchat.net.au> wrote in message
> news:67d2671cd0299134147db0b0e7d1c2e5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> I'm thinking of buying one of those freah air intakes for my 1991 Prelude
>> and wonder if anyone has knowledge about if they work at all?
>>
>
>

 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:

> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
> the hell out of people.
>

When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to have
~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
increases,and slight torque increases.
Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:

> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
> the hell out of people.
>

When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to have
~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
increases,and slight torque increases.
Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.



--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

that just makes me want a CAI now


"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns9586CF1EC876Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. .
> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:
>
>> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
>> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
>> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
>> the hell out of people.
>>
>
> When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
> several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
> have
> ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
> increases,and slight torque increases.
> Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net

 

that just makes me want a CAI now


"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns9586CF1EC876Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. .
> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:
>
>> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
>> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
>> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
>> the hell out of people.
>>
>
> When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
> several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
> have
> ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
> increases,and slight torque increases.
> Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
>
>
>
> --
> Jim Yanik
> jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
news:2V%cd.15867$_u6.7650@edtnps89:

> that just makes me want a CAI now
>
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
> news:Xns9586CF1EC876Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. .
>> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
>> newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:
>>
>>> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
>>> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
>>> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
>>> the hell out of people.
>>>
>>
>> When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
>> several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
>> have
>> ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
>> increases,and slight torque increases.
>> Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik-at-kua.net
>
>
>

Ebay has some at low prices.I bought a Bomz CAI for my Integra GSR for
$60,including shipping. It does not have a bypass valve,though,but is
totally satisfactory.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
news:2V%cd.15867$_u6.7650@edtnps89:

> that just makes me want a CAI now
>
>
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
> news:Xns9586CF1EC876Bjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. .
>> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
>> newsMXcd.15429$_u6.8025@edtnps89:
>>
>>> I put a short ram intake on my 2000 Civic SiR and didn't really notice
>>> much other then major increase in noise... but i must say that I
>>> really like the new sound, exspecially when VTEC kicks in. It scares
>>> the hell out of people.
>>>
>>
>> When Honda Tuning Magazine did flow bench and dyno tests on an RSX and
>> several short rams and 2 cold air intakes,they found the short rams to
>> have
>> ~5-7 hp increases,negligible torque increases,but both CAIs had 20 hp
>> increases,and slight torque increases.
>> Incoming air temp has a large effect on power.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jim Yanik
>> jyanik-at-kua.net
>
>
>

Ebay has some at low prices.I bought a Bomz CAI for my Integra GSR for
$60,including shipping. It does not have a bypass valve,though,but is
totally satisfactory.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

 

Steve Bigelow wrote:

> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:2K2dnYRdlc3_YOzcRVn-uA@rogers.com...
>
>>KiwiinOz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
>>>Any noticable improvements found out there?
>>>
>>
>>If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
> Oh please, do explain.

I just noticed your reply to my post. I said a CAI would make the car
less fuel efficient because it allows more air into the engine. Since
the mixture ratio should be constant, it makes sense that there should
be more gas going into the engine as well. if only the air intake would
increase but the gas would stay the same the car would run lean.

If this reasoning is wrong, please correct me.

Cosmin

 

Steve Bigelow wrote:

> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
> news:2K2dnYRdlc3_YOzcRVn-uA@rogers.com...
>
>>KiwiinOz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
>>>Any noticable improvements found out there?
>>>
>>
>>If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
>>
>>Cosmin
>
>
> Oh please, do explain.

I just noticed your reply to my post. I said a CAI would make the car
less fuel efficient because it allows more air into the engine. Since
the mixture ratio should be constant, it makes sense that there should
be more gas going into the engine as well. if only the air intake would
increase but the gas would stay the same the car would run lean.

If this reasoning is wrong, please correct me.

Cosmin

 

"Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in news:JIKdna4Evd4jWuvcRVn-jQ@rogers.com:

> Steve Bigelow wrote:
>
>> "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote in message
>> news:2K2dnYRdlc3_YOzcRVn-uA@rogers.com...
>>
>>>KiwiinOz wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm mainly looking for more miles per gallon than outright power.
>>>>Any noticable improvements found out there?
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you install a cai, your car will be less fuel efficient.
>>>
>>>Cosmin
>>
>>
>> Oh please, do explain.
>
> I just noticed your reply to my post. I said a CAI would make the car
> less fuel efficient because it allows more air into the engine. Since
> the mixture ratio should be constant, it makes sense that there should
> be more gas going into the engine as well. if only the air intake would
> increase but the gas would stay the same the car would run lean.
>
> If this reasoning is wrong, please correct me.
>
> Cosmin
>

More air + more fuel= more power,thus less throttle needed.
You may get more volumetric efficiency,too.

This may be offset by the tendency to USE the extra power.(leadfoot effect)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net