Pilot Transmission Problems
12-08-2006 | 01:39 PM
#1
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Pilot Transmission Problems
New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
pretty easy miles.
Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
the same miles ...
Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
mine)
Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
pretty easy miles.
Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
the same miles ...
Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
mine)
12-10-2006 | 12:40 AM
#2
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 12:40 AM
#3
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 12:40 AM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 12:40 AM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
In article <n5Neh.423$oS1.371@newsfe20.lga>,
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
12-10-2006 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
In article <n5Neh.423$oS1.371@newsfe20.lga>,
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
12-10-2006 | 10:53 AM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
In article <n5Neh.423$oS1.371@newsfe20.lga>,
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
12-10-2006 | 10:53 AM
#9
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
In article <n5Neh.423$oS1.371@newsfe20.lga>,
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
"Jack Tseng" <tseng4@hotmail.com> wrote:
> well.. I had my 2002 Accord V6 transmission problem too @ 60K miles. We got
> approved from American Honda Motor Company. The company paid $3800 for the
> repairing. I paid nothing. ;-) I think Honda engineers have a mistake.
Honda engineers didn't make a mistake. Honda in Japan made a
mistake--by removing the engineers from key decisions, replacing them
with beancounters.
The results were dramatically bad: horrible designs over about a 10
year period as well as transmission problems that make Chrysler's
reliability look like Toyota's. Honda cheapened out on the transmission
supplier, and got what they paid for.
They fell into the trap that they'd rather do it completely wrong and
pay for it twice than do it right up front. In the end they dumped
YEARS of customer loyalty and satisfaction, despite their efforts to fix
things.
I will never pay for a transmission in my 02 Odyssey. Period. If it
fails and Honda tells me to go blow, that van will sit at the side of
the road with a huge sign on it, explaining that to anyone who drives by.
12-10-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
Toyota and Honda expect things to last 100k miles. GM goes for just the
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
Toyota and Honda expect things to last 100k miles. GM goes for just the
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 03:26 PM
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
Toyota and Honda expect things to last 100k miles. GM goes for just the
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
12-10-2006 | 03:26 PM
#13
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Re: Pilot Transmission Problems
Toyota and Honda expect things to last 100k miles. GM goes for just the
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
warranty period. That is why Toyota and Hondas are more reliable. It
lasted over 125k miles. You have nothing to complain about.
"ringopilot" <dvring@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1165603174.673268.208340@j72g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> New to the sight ... and wish I had seen it sooner.
>
> Just replaced the trans on my 03 pilot ... @ 125,000 miles. It was
> shifting sporatically from 2nd to 3rd. I had the recall inspection done
> at 45,000 but to no long term avail. All of the miles are highway ...
> pretty easy miles.
>
> Also, spoke to another 03 owner that had to replace his trans @ about
> the same miles ...
>
> Honda customer service just didn't seem to think this was there problem
> because of the miles ... they have engineering problems (now they are
> mine)
>
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