People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
02-14-2007 | 12:13 PM
#46
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 5:03 am, "Kinik" <K...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
02-14-2007 | 12:13 PM
#47
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 5:03 am, "Kinik" <K...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
02-14-2007 | 12:13 PM
#48
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 5:03 am, "Kinik" <K...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
02-14-2007 | 12:13 PM
#49
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 5:03 am, "Kinik" <K...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
> > Now if you leave behind the "standard" car shape, and try something
> > exotic life a Jetsons-car, then you might be able to do better.
> > Volkswagen did exactly that a few years ago, with a 1-seat car, 8
> > horsepower engine, and shaped like a cigar.
>
> > But even then, they still only got 250 miles per gallon.
>
> I agree it's impossible with the engine design and materials that go into
> cars these days. Way too inefficient and way to heavy.
>
Only the cars that joe schmoe is buying.
Lotus seven body has been around for more than half of the
centrury now.
> It would require a radical new engine design. Most likely something not
> thought of yet.
> It would also require a huge leap forward in materials technology .
> Something that can be affordable, as strong as steel, and be 90% lighter and
> still transport a family.
It's doable but since an average car buyer is a moron
who is buying a heavy pig (such as a prius) and does not
pay any attention to the weight aluminum frames for the masses ain't
gonna happen.
02-14-2007 | 12:46 PM
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
Dano wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> > "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> >>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> >>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
> >>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
> >>> idea
> >>> when you saw it?
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
> >> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
> >> the absence thereof = 0.)
> >>
> >
> >
> > Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
> >
> You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
> Re-read the person's post.
Yes. Let me rephrase to clarify: [When I originally saw Star Trek
TOS in the 1980s], I thought it was theoretically possible [to store
video on tiny cookie-sized wafers] , if they used electrons as their
method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or the
absence thereof = 0.)
But the situation we're talking about, making a 400mpg Civic or Prius,
is never gonna happen. Just as you can not fly by flapping your arms.
02-14-2007 | 12:46 PM
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
Dano wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> > "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> >>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> >>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
> >>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
> >>> idea
> >>> when you saw it?
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
> >> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
> >> the absence thereof = 0.)
> >>
> >
> >
> > Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
> >
> You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
> Re-read the person's post.
Yes. Let me rephrase to clarify: [When I originally saw Star Trek
TOS in the 1980s], I thought it was theoretically possible [to store
video on tiny cookie-sized wafers] , if they used electrons as their
method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or the
absence thereof = 0.)
But the situation we're talking about, making a 400mpg Civic or Prius,
is never gonna happen. Just as you can not fly by flapping your arms.
02-14-2007 | 12:46 PM
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
Dano wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> > "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> >>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> >>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
> >>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
> >>> idea
> >>> when you saw it?
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
> >> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
> >> the absence thereof = 0.)
> >>
> >
> >
> > Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
> >
> You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
> Re-read the person's post.
Yes. Let me rephrase to clarify: [When I originally saw Star Trek
TOS in the 1980s], I thought it was theoretically possible [to store
video on tiny cookie-sized wafers] , if they used electrons as their
method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or the
absence thereof = 0.)
But the situation we're talking about, making a 400mpg Civic or Prius,
is never gonna happen. Just as you can not fly by flapping your arms.
02-14-2007 | 12:46 PM
#57
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
Dano wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <dishborealis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:z9GAh.2798$ya1.1059@news02.roc.ny...
> > "SFTVratings" <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:1171467870.596917.50990@l53g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> >>
> >> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> >>> <SFTVratings_troy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> >>> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> >>> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the original Star Trek program, people would use these little data
> >>> storage things the size of small cookies. What did you think about that
> >>> idea
> >>> when you saw it?
> >>
> >>
> >> I thought it was theoretically possible, if they used electrons as
> >> their method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or
> >> the absence thereof = 0.)
> >>
> >
> >
> > Theoretically possible? We have those things now, Einstein.
> >
> You seem to have trouble with the grammatical concept of tense. As in past.
> Re-read the person's post.
Yes. Let me rephrase to clarify: [When I originally saw Star Trek
TOS in the 1980s], I thought it was theoretically possible [to store
video on tiny cookie-sized wafers] , if they used electrons as their
method of storage. (Where the presence of an electron = 1, or the
absence thereof = 0.)
But the situation we're talking about, making a 400mpg Civic or Prius,
is never gonna happen. Just as you can not fly by flapping your arms.
02-14-2007 | 12:47 PM
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 10:18 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.
02-14-2007 | 12:47 PM
#59
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 10:18 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.
02-14-2007 | 12:47 PM
#60
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Re: People who claim 'they could build a 400mpg Hybrid' amuse me.
On Feb 14, 10:18 am, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.
> SFTVratings_t...@yahoo.com wrote:
> > Not so much because of the statement, but because they don't have any
> > math to back-up said statement. Might as well say, "If I flap my arms
> > real hard, I could fly." Yeah. Sure. If it WERE possible to build a
> > 400MPG civic or Prius, Honda or Toyota or Ford would would already be
> > doing it (and bragging about it on the television).
>
> They can do it easily. They just have to leave the electricity to charge
> the plug-in hybrid's batteries out of the equation.
That's called cheating.