"http://www.ClubPlug.net -
>> > Hi
>>
>> > I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to
>> > burn
>> > way too much oil

> The car has about 160 000 km or 100 000 miles.
>
> I will check the engine again to see if there is any heavy
> oil
> deposit. As for the garage floor, the answer is "No
> Spots" on the
> floor.
>
> The problem with changing the PCV valve is getting to it,
> Honda surely
> did not make it easy to change a small valve. I think the
> valve is
> underneath and behind the engine.

Not sure if you found it yet. If not, here are drawings of
where it should be, plus instructions for checking the valve
in place:

http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/m...pdf/11-109.pdf

http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...28DOWN+FLOW%29

On some Hondas, it is easy to get to. On others I have read,
as you indicate, that one has to get at it from underneath.

Have you looked at your exhaust fume's color? Blue-ish
suggests oil is being burned, and so the PCV valve is not
the problem.

 

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> On Jul 16, 2:36 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>>
>> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in
>> between changes?
>>
>
>
> I usually change the oil every 3000-3500 mile intervals.
>
>
>
>
>


How many miles on the car?

--
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"http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Jul 16, 2:36 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>>
>> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in
>> between changes?
>>
>
>
> I usually change the oil every 3000-3500 mile intervals.
>
>
>
>
>


How many miles on the car?

--
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The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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"http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
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> On Jul 16, 2:36 pm, Tegger <teg...@tegger.c0m> wrote:

>>
>> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in
>> between changes?
>>
>
>
> I usually change the oil every 3000-3500 mile intervals.
>
>
>
>
>


How many miles on the car?

--
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Elle wrote:
> "http://www.ClubPlug.net -
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn
>> way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot.
>> However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be
>> "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> A malfunctioning PCV valve can cause oil loss, but not by
> burning.

not true. a faulty pcv can cause huge oil consumption. especially on a
worn engine with heavy blow-by.

> Reports are that they fail shut or get plugged,
> causing pressure to build in the oil crankcase, causing
> pressure to build and various oil seals to fail, leaking
> oil. So you want to check the lower exterior of your engine
> and see if it's more oil covered than usual. Do you have
> spots on your garage floor?
>
> Other seals may be failing too. E.g. the valve cover gasket,
> or the gaskets in the spark plug tubes.
>
> If this is the original PCV valve, I would either (1) clean
> with carb cleaner (which typically says on the can it's also
> for PCV system cleaning; or (2) just replace it. There are
> some checks you can do to see if it's working, too.
>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than
>> changing a
>> piston ring.
>> :-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is
>> way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Yes, this sounds like a lot. Eliminate all the possibilities
> listed above first.
>
> How many miles on your car?
>
>

pcv valves fail both ways - stuck open or stuck closed. stuck closed
causes excess crank case pressure and subsequent oil leakage. stuck
open causes too low crank case pressure and excess oil consumption.

 

Elle wrote:
> "http://www.ClubPlug.net -
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn
>> way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot.
>> However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be
>> "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> A malfunctioning PCV valve can cause oil loss, but not by
> burning.

not true. a faulty pcv can cause huge oil consumption. especially on a
worn engine with heavy blow-by.

> Reports are that they fail shut or get plugged,
> causing pressure to build in the oil crankcase, causing
> pressure to build and various oil seals to fail, leaking
> oil. So you want to check the lower exterior of your engine
> and see if it's more oil covered than usual. Do you have
> spots on your garage floor?
>
> Other seals may be failing too. E.g. the valve cover gasket,
> or the gaskets in the spark plug tubes.
>
> If this is the original PCV valve, I would either (1) clean
> with carb cleaner (which typically says on the can it's also
> for PCV system cleaning; or (2) just replace it. There are
> some checks you can do to see if it's working, too.
>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than
>> changing a
>> piston ring.
>> :-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is
>> way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Yes, this sounds like a lot. Eliminate all the possibilities
> listed above first.
>
> How many miles on your car?
>
>

pcv valves fail both ways - stuck open or stuck closed. stuck closed
causes excess crank case pressure and subsequent oil leakage. stuck
open causes too low crank case pressure and excess oil consumption.

 

Elle wrote:
> "http://www.ClubPlug.net -
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn
>> way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot.
>> However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be
>> "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> A malfunctioning PCV valve can cause oil loss, but not by
> burning.

not true. a faulty pcv can cause huge oil consumption. especially on a
worn engine with heavy blow-by.

> Reports are that they fail shut or get plugged,
> causing pressure to build in the oil crankcase, causing
> pressure to build and various oil seals to fail, leaking
> oil. So you want to check the lower exterior of your engine
> and see if it's more oil covered than usual. Do you have
> spots on your garage floor?
>
> Other seals may be failing too. E.g. the valve cover gasket,
> or the gaskets in the spark plug tubes.
>
> If this is the original PCV valve, I would either (1) clean
> with carb cleaner (which typically says on the can it's also
> for PCV system cleaning; or (2) just replace it. There are
> some checks you can do to see if it's working, too.
>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than
>> changing a
>> piston ring.
>> :-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is
>> way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Yes, this sounds like a lot. Eliminate all the possibilities
> listed above first.
>
> How many miles on your car?
>
>

pcv valves fail both ways - stuck open or stuck closed. stuck closed
causes excess crank case pressure and subsequent oil leakage. stuck
open causes too low crank case pressure and excess oil consumption.

 

http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
Reference Catalogs! wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
> piston ring.
> :-)
>
> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>
> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> Frank
>

change the pcv and check the connecting hoses. if that doesn't work,
look for other problems. a blown ring may be the cause. should be
evident by one plug showing greater degree of deposits or even oil fouling.

 

http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
Reference Catalogs! wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
> piston ring.
> :-)
>
> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>
> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> Frank
>

change the pcv and check the connecting hoses. if that doesn't work,
look for other problems. a blown ring may be the cause. should be
evident by one plug showing greater degree of deposits or even oil fouling.

 

http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
Reference Catalogs! wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
> piston ring.
> :-)
>
> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>
> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>
> Thank you in advance.
> Frank
>

change the pcv and check the connecting hoses. if that doesn't work,
look for other problems. a blown ring may be the cause. should be
evident by one plug showing greater degree of deposits or even oil fouling.

 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:36:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> "http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
> Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1184609515.692129.282400@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
>> piston ring.
>>:-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>>
>
>
> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in between
> changes?
>

Honda says 3750 for oil and 7500 for oil and filter. 3000 or 3750 for
both is common.

 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:36:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> "http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
> Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1184609515.692129.282400@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
>> piston ring.
>>:-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>>
>
>
> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in between
> changes?
>

Honda says 3750 for oil and 7500 for oil and filter. 3000 or 3750 for
both is common.

 

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:36:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> "http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
> Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:1184609515.692129.282400@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>>
>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>
>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
>> piston ring.
>>:-)
>>
>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>
>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>>
>
>
> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in between
> changes?
>

Honda says 3750 for oil and 7500 for oil and filter. 3000 or 3750 for
both is common.

 

satmech wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:36:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>> "http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
>> Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1184609515.692129.282400@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
>>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
>>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>
>>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
>>> piston ring.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
>>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>>>
>>
>> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in between
>> changes?
>>
>
> Honda says 3750 for oil and 7500 for oil and filter. 3000 or 3750 for
> both is common.

that's the recreational oil change schedule. normal service schedule is
7.5k for older hondas, 10k+ on newer ones. why propagate oilco
propaganda? they suck enough money out of your wallet at the gas pump -
don't need to waste more of it from the oil drain plug.

 

satmech wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:36:34 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>> "http://www.ClubPlug.net - Your Source for Online Spark Plug Cross
>> Reference Catalogs!" <clubplug@hotmail.com> wrote in
>> news:1184609515.692129.282400@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I have a 1997 Honda Civic LX and the engine seems to burn way too much
>>> oil. I suspect that one of the "rings" may be shot. However, someone
>>> told me that the "PCV" value can also cause oil to be "burned".
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm this?
>>>
>>> I was thinking of changing the valve, way easier than changing a
>>> piston ring.
>>> :-)
>>>
>>> The only problem is that the amount of oil being burned is way to high
>>> for the PCV to be the cause, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> The car burns about 2 liters per oil change cycle.
>>>
>>
>> What is the duration of the "oil change cycle"? How many miles in between
>> changes?
>>
>
> Honda says 3750 for oil and 7500 for oil and filter. 3000 or 3750 for
> both is common.

that's the recreational oil change schedule. normal service schedule is
7.5k for older hondas, 10k+ on newer ones. why propagate oilco
propaganda? they suck enough money out of your wallet at the gas pump -
don't need to waste more of it from the oil drain plug.