Tegger wrote:

> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns99E1D61DC80DDjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>>Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>
>
>>>If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
>>>may never even drop into its notch.
>>>
>>
>>but when you release the brake,the pawl will drop in and receive
>>pressure. (unless you have your foot on the brake.)
>>
>>Or if the parking brake slips(or is frozen).
>>(could happen on steep slopes;that's why you're supposed to turn the
>>front wheels so the car rolls into the curb.)
>>
>
>
>
> All absolutely true, of course.
>
> But the parking pawl of the modern automatic transmission is fairly robust
> in the sense that it does not care which way any stress happens to come at
> it. As well, even heavy stress will simply cause the tires to skid upon the
> pavement well before the pawl breaks.
>
> Remember the old "transmission brake"? That drum brake that was installed
> at the rear of automatics up to about 1963? That was the original "parking
> brake". It did not hold the wheels, just the driveshaft. This meant that
> with your usual open diff, the right rear wheel was all that held the car
> still when it was parked out-of-gear. Very much like a parking pawl.
>
> The upshot of all this verbiage is that the OP can park his car any which
> way from Sunday and it will be just fine. And he can apply the parking
> brake anytime he chooses to. So long as he actually does so, that is...
>

What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!

JT

 

Tegger wrote:

> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns99E1D61DC80DDjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85:
>
>
>>Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130:
>>
>
>
>>>If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
>>>may never even drop into its notch.
>>>
>>
>>but when you release the brake,the pawl will drop in and receive
>>pressure. (unless you have your foot on the brake.)
>>
>>Or if the parking brake slips(or is frozen).
>>(could happen on steep slopes;that's why you're supposed to turn the
>>front wheels so the car rolls into the curb.)
>>
>
>
>
> All absolutely true, of course.
>
> But the parking pawl of the modern automatic transmission is fairly robust
> in the sense that it does not care which way any stress happens to come at
> it. As well, even heavy stress will simply cause the tires to skid upon the
> pavement well before the pawl breaks.
>
> Remember the old "transmission brake"? That drum brake that was installed
> at the rear of automatics up to about 1963? That was the original "parking
> brake". It did not hold the wheels, just the driveshaft. This meant that
> with your usual open diff, the right rear wheel was all that held the car
> still when it was parked out-of-gear. Very much like a parking pawl.
>
> The upshot of all this verbiage is that the OP can park his car any which
> way from Sunday and it will be just fine. And he can apply the parking
> brake anytime he chooses to. So long as he actually does so, that is...
>

What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!

JT

 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
> may never even drop into its notch.

How do you figure that? If you place the transmission in neutral, then
apply the parking brake, then place the transmission in park, there's no
issue. It is the same as using the service brakes, then placing the
transmission in park and releasing the service brake, except for the fact
that the parking brake is already applied. Doing it in this manner removes
the strain (due to the weight of the vehicle) on the parking pawl.

 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99E1D038AB6D1tegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> If the parking brake is applied before the tranny is Parked, the pawl
> may never even drop into its notch.

How do you figure that? If you place the transmission in neutral, then
apply the parking brake, then place the transmission in park, there's no
issue. It is the same as using the service brakes, then placing the
transmission in park and releasing the service brake, except for the fact
that the parking brake is already applied. Doing it in this manner removes
the strain (due to the weight of the vehicle) on the parking pawl.

 

"ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
news:1194452097.003836.132740@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello,
> I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
> Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
> driveway with engine facing garage.
>
> But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
> facing the driveway.
>
> The driveway to the garage is elevated.
>
> Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
> nor brakes, right?
>
> Thanks !!



Grumpy,
Talking about hangimg your car from a meat hook.....I remember some
car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to hold
oil in
that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could very well
be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!

 

"ap" <corsica@ragingbull.com> wrote in message
news:1194452097.003836.132740@z9g2000hsf.googlegro ups.com...
> Hello,
> I've got an accord lx (2001) with automatic transmission.
> Usually, the car is parked outside the garage on the sloped
> driveway with engine facing garage.
>
> But I changed how I park so that the car's engine is
> facing the driveway.
>
> The driveway to the garage is elevated.
>
> Is it ok to park this way and it doesn't strain the transmission
> nor brakes, right?
>
> Thanks !!



Grumpy,
Talking about hangimg your car from a meat hook.....I remember some
car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to hold
oil in
that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could very well
be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!

 

......I remember some
> car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
> in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to hold
> oil in
> that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could very well
> be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!

----------------------------

If the Japanese had designed the Vega, I expect they would have hung the
designer from a meathook.

However you park your car, just be sure the motor isn't pointed toward
the sky. (upside down).

'Curly'

 

......I remember some
> car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
> in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to hold
> oil in
> that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could very well
> be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!

----------------------------

If the Japanese had designed the Vega, I expect they would have hung the
designer from a meathook.

However you park your car, just be sure the motor isn't pointed toward
the sky. (upside down).

'Curly'

 

motsco_ wrote:
> .....I remember some
>
>> car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
>> in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to
>> hold oil in
>> that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could
>> very well
>> be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!
>
>
> ----------------------------
>
> If the Japanese had designed the Vega, I expect they would have hung the
> designer from a meathook.
>
> However you park your car, just be sure the motor isn't pointed toward
> the sky. (upside down).
>
> 'Curly'



That could only be accomplished by a woman driver, right?

<GGG>

JT


(Running 'n ducking!)

 

motsco_ wrote:
> .....I remember some
>
>> car company actually built a car to be shipped that way to save space
>> in transit. Hanging from the front end, with the oil pan designed to
>> hold oil in
>> that position. I think it might have been the Chevy Vega, I could
>> very well
>> be mistaken, or maybe I heard the story wrong!
>
>
> ----------------------------
>
> If the Japanese had designed the Vega, I expect they would have hung the
> designer from a meathook.
>
> However you park your car, just be sure the motor isn't pointed toward
> the sky. (upside down).
>
> 'Curly'



That could only be accomplished by a woman driver, right?

<GGG>

JT


(Running 'n ducking!)

 

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:G7wYi.65966$kj1.23454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


>>
>
> What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
> can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!
>



Ever seen the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?


--
Tegger

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Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:G7wYi.65966$kj1.23454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


>>
>
> What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
> can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!
>



Ever seen the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?


--
Tegger

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Tegger wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:G7wYi.65966$kj1.23454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
>>What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
>>can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!
>>
>
>
>
>
> Ever seen the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?
>
>


No, but they must be...

JT

 

Tegger wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:G7wYi.65966$kj1.23454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
>>What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
>>can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!
>>
>
>
>
>
> Ever seen the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?
>
>


No, but they must be...

JT

 

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in news:IW1Zi.9657
$if6.4217@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Tegger wrote:
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:G7wYi.65966$kj1.23454@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>
>>>What happens if you hang your car like from a meat hook? That way, you
>>>can increase a driveway's capacity by around 300%!
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ever seen the movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy"?
>>
>>
>
>
> No, but they must be...
>



It's a funny movie. Made in Botswana around 1980 and badly edited, but very
good in a quirky sort of way.

There's one scene where a Land Rover accidentally gets winched up a tree,
which is what made me think of the movie when you made the "meat hook"
comment.

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Tegger

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