OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
too optimistic.

I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
know? The owner's manual appears not to say.

Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
the *first* oil change?

Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!

I guess I'll know by about next Easter ...

Thanks.

J.

 

JXStern wrote:
> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.

translation:
"we hate these things - we want customers to come back much more often
so we frighten them by trying to fud".

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!
>
> I guess I'll know by about next Easter ...
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

service the car like it says in the owners manual. ignore the dealer.

 

JXStern wrote:
> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.

translation:
"we hate these things - we want customers to come back much more often
so we frighten them by trying to fud".

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!
>
> I guess I'll know by about next Easter ...
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

service the car like it says in the owners manual. ignore the dealer.

 

JXStern wrote:
> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.

translation:
"we hate these things - we want customers to come back much more often
so we frighten them by trying to fud".

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!
>
> I guess I'll know by about next Easter ...
>
> Thanks.
>
> J.
>

service the car like it says in the owners manual. ignore the dealer.

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:36:30 +0000, JXStern wrote:

> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.
>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!

On my 06 Civic Si, the first change was at around 6500 Miles. The second
one is getting close now (20%) and I am nearing 12K...

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:36:30 +0000, JXStern wrote:

> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.
>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!

On my 06 Civic Si, the first change was at around 6500 Miles. The second
one is getting close now (20%) and I am nearing 12K...

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 02:36:30 +0000, JXStern wrote:

> OK, just picked up the 07, and it has this new oil life indicator
> dohickey. Talking to the salesman, he says my old 2004 with the
> 10,000 mile standard service claim to an oil change, might have been
> too optimistic.
>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>
> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?
>
> Inquiring minds want to know wtf I'm driving around now!

On my 06 Civic Si, the first change was at around 6500 Miles. The second
one is getting close now (20%) and I am nearing 12K...

 

JXStern wrote:

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>

By all reports the system does work along those lines. GM was the
leader in this area with it's oil life indicator technology which uses a
combination of engine revolutions, start-stop cycles, temperature, etc.
to estimate how used up the oil is.


> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?

I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
miles.

John

 

JXStern wrote:

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>

By all reports the system does work along those lines. GM was the
leader in this area with it's oil life indicator technology which uses a
combination of engine revolutions, start-stop cycles, temperature, etc.
to estimate how used up the oil is.


> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?

I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
miles.

John

 

JXStern wrote:

>
> I'm going to guess that the algorithm for the oil life is some
> combination of milage, revolutions, time, and maybe RPM (or engine
> heat - or just how smart can the computer really be!?) Does anybody
> know? The owner's manual appears not to say.
>

By all reports the system does work along those lines. GM was the
leader in this area with it's oil life indicator technology which uses a
combination of engine revolutions, start-stop cycles, temperature, etc.
to estimate how used up the oil is.


> Nor does it suggest about what the miles will come out. So, if I just
> drive this thing like a creampuff, most miles at 65mph on the freeway,
> most *time* at 20mph on the same freeway (!), anybody have a guess
> when the bell will ring? Does the dohickey do anything different for
> the *first* oil change?

I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
miles.

John

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:41:04 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
>5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
>changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
>metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
>when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
>around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
>indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
> It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
>miles.

Thanks.

It's a curious game, fun in some small, obscure way. Me, I'd prefer
to see the algorithm and a daily readout of all parameters, if that's
how it's going to work. But hey, I'm a geek.

J.

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:41:04 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
>5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
>changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
>metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
>when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
>around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
>indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
> It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
>miles.

Thanks.

It's a curious game, fun in some small, obscure way. Me, I'd prefer
to see the algorithm and a daily readout of all parameters, if that's
how it's going to work. But hey, I'm a geek.

J.

 

On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:41:04 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I suspect that your indicator will says time's up somewhere between
>5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first few oil
>changes early in hopes of flushing out the high concentrations and wear
>metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first two changes
>when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life, which happened at
>around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10% on the
>indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra safety margin.
> It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil changes every 6-8k
>miles.

Thanks.

It's a curious game, fun in some small, obscure way. Me, I'd prefer
to see the algorithm and a daily readout of all parameters, if that's
how it's going to work. But hey, I'm a geek.

J.

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote
<jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I suspect that your indicator will says time's up
>>somewhere between
>>5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first
>>few oil
>>changes early in hopes of flushing out the high
>>concentrations and wear
>>metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first
>>two changes
>>when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life,
>>which happened at
>>around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10%
>>on the
>>indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra
>>safety margin.
>> It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil
>> changes every 6-8k
>>miles.
>
> Thanks.
>
> It's a curious game, fun in some small, obscure way. Me,
> I'd prefer
> to see the algorithm and a daily readout of all
> parameters, if that's
> how it's going to work. But hey, I'm a geek.

You think it's geekiness, or more wanting to establish trust
in the design? The latter would be my interest. Still, at
present I would be very much inclined to trust the design,
based on my understanding of it.

 

"JXStern" <JXSternChangeX2R@gte.net> wrote
<jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>I suspect that your indicator will says time's up
>>somewhere between
>>5,000 and 10,000 miles. Personally I like to do the first
>>few oil
>>changes early in hopes of flushing out the high
>>concentrations and wear
>>metals found in new engines. With my TSX I did the first
>>two changes
>>when the oil indicator got down to 40% remaining life,
>>which happened at
>>around 3500 miles each time. Now I plan to go down to 10%
>>on the
>>indicator, but am using synthetic oil for a little extra
>>safety margin.
>> It looks like with my driving I will be doing oil
>> changes every 6-8k
>>miles.
>
> Thanks.
>
> It's a curious game, fun in some small, obscure way. Me,
> I'd prefer
> to see the algorithm and a daily readout of all
> parameters, if that's
> how it's going to work. But hey, I'm a geek.

You think it's geekiness, or more wanting to establish trust
in the design? The latter would be my interest. Still, at
present I would be very much inclined to trust the design,
based on my understanding of it.