More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
07-13-2003, 04:34 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
"Gary Seven AKA: "Mister head"" <garyluckynospam@nospa.yahoocom> wrote
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> Well, if we're going to nic pick the Mustang isn't really a Sports
> car... its a muscle car with OK handling.
If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just blather
on about what it _isn't_.
07-13-2003, 07:04 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
<BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
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> FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
> > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
blather
> > on about what it _isn't_.
Lol.....still can't do it I see.
You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
What is a sports car?
Blather away...
07-13-2003, 07:12 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:34:19 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>"Gary Seven AKA: "Mister head"" <garyluckynospam@nospa.yahoocom> wrote
>in message news:rv63hvchu6idmpg64lnkbipspmh6ehf7eu@4ax.com...
>
>> Well, if we're going to nic pick the Mustang isn't really a Sports
>> car... its a muscle car with OK handling.
>
>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just blather
>on about what it _isn't_.
>
You're right... come to think of it he won't be able to get a GT for
under $25,000 anyway.
<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
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>"Gary Seven AKA: "Mister head"" <garyluckynospam@nospa.yahoocom> wrote
>in message news:rv63hvchu6idmpg64lnkbipspmh6ehf7eu@4ax.com...
>
>> Well, if we're going to nic pick the Mustang isn't really a Sports
>> car... its a muscle car with OK handling.
>
>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just blather
>on about what it _isn't_.
>
You're right... come to think of it he won't be able to get a GT for
under $25,000 anyway.
07-13-2003, 09:07 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
you blather more than the rest of the posters on this thread combined! spit
it out, which under powered, under tired, poorly damped "sports car" do you
keep about?
"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
> > FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
> > > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
> blather
> > > on about what it _isn't_.
>
> Lol.....still can't do it I see.
> You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
> What is a sports car?
>
> Blather away...
>
>
it out, which under powered, under tired, poorly damped "sports car" do you
keep about?
"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> <BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
> > FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
> > > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
> blather
> > > on about what it _isn't_.
>
> Lol.....still can't do it I see.
> You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
> What is a sports car?
>
> Blather away...
>
>
07-13-2003, 09:13 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
"You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
to happen."
huh? says who? been driving turbo cars since '91 and never experienced a
turbo related failure.
i've busted plenty of due to the power from the turbo but the turbos
have never busted.
you've never owned a turbo have you?
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> "David & Caroline" <dcenos@Spam.Is.Evil.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > > It sounds like the Celica, WRX, and Altima are the best way to go?
> > >
> > > If you have any other opinions on what the best low-end sports coupe
> > > is, let me know - this is all great advice.
> >
> > If you want a sports coupe, then the Celica is the only coupe in the
lot.
> > And I would go with the Acura RSX-S over the celica
> >
> > Of the cars you listed, I would go with the WRX, hands down - crushes
the
> > others in all-season performance (i.e., conditions in addition to dry,
> > smooth pavement)
> >
> > If you need to carry lots of people often, then the Altima would
probably be
> > a good choice.
>
> You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
> to happen.
>
> Celica is OK, but visibility is poor. You have to use mirrors and can
> hardly see out of the back at all. The acura may have better
> visibility so I'd give that a shot.
>
> If you're considering an Altima, then you probably wouldn't like the
> cramped space, poor visibililty, and harsh ride of many sports cars.
> Try the Nissan SE-R sport sedan, or just the plain Nissan SE. Maybe
> the Civic EX, nice car and somewhat sporty. Miata's are great but
> very small.
>
> I would guess you'll end up with an Altima.
to happen."
huh? says who? been driving turbo cars since '91 and never experienced a
turbo related failure.
i've busted plenty of due to the power from the turbo but the turbos
have never busted.
you've never owned a turbo have you?
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> "David & Caroline" <dcenos@Spam.Is.Evil.comcast.net> wrote in message
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> > > It sounds like the Celica, WRX, and Altima are the best way to go?
> > >
> > > If you have any other opinions on what the best low-end sports coupe
> > > is, let me know - this is all great advice.
> >
> > If you want a sports coupe, then the Celica is the only coupe in the
lot.
> > And I would go with the Acura RSX-S over the celica
> >
> > Of the cars you listed, I would go with the WRX, hands down - crushes
the
> > others in all-season performance (i.e., conditions in addition to dry,
> > smooth pavement)
> >
> > If you need to carry lots of people often, then the Altima would
probably be
> > a good choice.
>
> You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
> to happen.
>
> Celica is OK, but visibility is poor. You have to use mirrors and can
> hardly see out of the back at all. The acura may have better
> visibility so I'd give that a shot.
>
> If you're considering an Altima, then you probably wouldn't like the
> cramped space, poor visibililty, and harsh ride of many sports cars.
> Try the Nissan SE-R sport sedan, or just the plain Nissan SE. Maybe
> the Civic EX, nice car and somewhat sporty. Miata's are great but
> very small.
>
> I would guess you'll end up with an Altima.
07-14-2003, 07:35 AM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>
><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>> FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
>> > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>blather
>> > on about what it _isn't_.
>
>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
>What is a sports car?
>
>Blather away...
>
Well...
If it's not a family saloon
If its not a luxury sedan
If it's not a hot hatch
If it's not a SUV
If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
engine....
It's possibly .. a sports car.
David
<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
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><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>> FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
>> > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>blather
>> > on about what it _isn't_.
>
>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
>What is a sports car?
>
>Blather away...
>
Well...
If it's not a family saloon
If its not a luxury sedan
If it's not a hot hatch
If it's not a SUV
If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
engine....
It's possibly .. a sports car.
David
07-14-2003, 03:11 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>
><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>> FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
>> > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>blather
>> > on about what it _isn't_.
>
>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
>What is a sports car?
>
>Blather away...
>
Here's how I classify them.
Sports car.
Has NO doors!
Has no roof (soft top or maybe a 'T' bar - no power)
Has 2 cozy seats - if you and your passenger total more than
25stone/158Kg you will probably be in contact.
Has a minimal mudguard or wheelarch height 2in/5cm and waistline to
match.
Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
Has RWD and manual gearbox.
Is very low to the ground and you just about sit on the floor so the
seat is about 1ft/30cm off the ground.
Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
The other rag top cars you may think are sports cars are 'roadsters'
or 'sports roadsters' as they have doors. They weigh a ton(ne) or
more and are a bit taller at the waistline but 'sports roadsters'
still have no more than 6in/15cm height from wheel arch to top of
bonnet directly above hub center.
The real Sports coupe.
Has 2 or 3 doors - if 3 door must be fastback.
Has a fixed roof.
Has 2 seats (if it is 2+2 it's a 2+2 Sports coupe)
Is sleek and low, overall height - height from wheel arch to top of
bonnet directly above hub center, is less than 59in (1.5m).
Is lightweight - less than 2480lb/1125kg (2+2 2755lb/1250Kg).
Has RWD and manual gearbox.
Has a ground to seat height less than 15in/38cm.
The cars listed in the subject are 'sports styled coupe' or
'performance saloon'. The coupes can't claim the label 'sports
coupe'. Any coupe based on a saloon or with FWD can only ever claim
the be 'SPORTS STYLED'.
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<sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
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><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>> FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>
>> > If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>blather
>> > on about what it _isn't_.
>
>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>
>What is a sports car?
>
>Blather away...
>
Here's how I classify them.
Sports car.
Has NO doors!
Has no roof (soft top or maybe a 'T' bar - no power)
Has 2 cozy seats - if you and your passenger total more than
25stone/158Kg you will probably be in contact.
Has a minimal mudguard or wheelarch height 2in/5cm and waistline to
match.
Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
Has RWD and manual gearbox.
Is very low to the ground and you just about sit on the floor so the
seat is about 1ft/30cm off the ground.
Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
The other rag top cars you may think are sports cars are 'roadsters'
or 'sports roadsters' as they have doors. They weigh a ton(ne) or
more and are a bit taller at the waistline but 'sports roadsters'
still have no more than 6in/15cm height from wheel arch to top of
bonnet directly above hub center.
The real Sports coupe.
Has 2 or 3 doors - if 3 door must be fastback.
Has a fixed roof.
Has 2 seats (if it is 2+2 it's a 2+2 Sports coupe)
Is sleek and low, overall height - height from wheel arch to top of
bonnet directly above hub center, is less than 59in (1.5m).
Is lightweight - less than 2480lb/1125kg (2+2 2755lb/1250Kg).
Has RWD and manual gearbox.
Has a ground to seat height less than 15in/38cm.
The cars listed in the subject are 'sports styled coupe' or
'performance saloon'. The coupes can't claim the label 'sports
coupe'. Any coupe based on a saloon or with FWD can only ever claim
the be 'SPORTS STYLED'.
--
Peter Hill
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07-14-2003, 07:13 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx,altima)
David wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
> <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>>
>>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>>
>>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>>>
>>blather
>>
>>>>on about what it _isn't_.
>>>
>>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>>
>>What is a sports car?
>>
>>Blather away...
>
> Well...
>
> If it's not a family saloon
> If its not a luxury sedan
> If it's not a hot hatch
> If it's not a SUV
> If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
> engine....
>
> It's possibly .. a sports car.
Ragtops are out?
> On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
> <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>>
>>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>>
>>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>>>
>>blather
>>
>>>>on about what it _isn't_.
>>>
>>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>>
>>What is a sports car?
>>
>>Blather away...
>
> Well...
>
> If it's not a family saloon
> If its not a luxury sedan
> If it's not a hot hatch
> If it's not a SUV
> If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
> engine....
>
> It's possibly .. a sports car.
Ragtops are out?
07-14-2003, 08:06 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
Dan Drake <ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote in
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> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
> <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
>
>>Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
>
> 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
> scales at 1,390lb.
How about a Lotus Elise?
http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
Now coming to the USA according to the website.
Alex Devlin
news:b8g6hvgutscjds625qa5mn3irmj1p3tkh1@4ax.com:
> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
> <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
>
>>Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
>
> 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
> scales at 1,390lb.
How about a Lotus Elise?
http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
Now coming to the USA according to the website.
Alex Devlin
07-14-2003, 09:59 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
a tr-6 is an underpowered, undertired, poorly damped rust bucket(check your
frame) and a damn fine excuse to buy an '88 fiero.
i could pull higher numbers on a skipad or put a chain on it and drag it
down the street-my pick. i did think it was cool when i was in junior high
but that was 1975.....
as my buddies who build prototype cars put it "the english car is the road
to ruin."
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> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
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> > David wrote:
> > > On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
> > > <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
> > >>
> > >>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
> > >>
> > >>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
> > >>>
> > >>blather
> > >>
> > >>>>on about what it _isn't_.
> > >>>
> > >>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
> > >>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
> > >>
> > >>What is a sports car?
> > >>
> > >>Blather away...
> > >
> > > Well...
> > >
> > > If it's not a family saloon
> > > If its not a luxury sedan
> > > If it's not a hot hatch
> > > If it's not a SUV
> > > If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
> > > engine....
> > >
> > > It's possibly .. a sports car.
> >
> > Ragtops are out?
>
> It seems a TR6 is not a sports car.
>
> Help us all.
>
>
frame) and a damn fine excuse to buy an '88 fiero.
i could pull higher numbers on a skipad or put a chain on it and drag it
down the street-my pick. i did think it was cool when i was in junior high
but that was 1975.....
as my buddies who build prototype cars put it "the english car is the road
to ruin."
"Stephen Bigelow" <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3F13390D.4000500@XXXX.optonline.net...
> > David wrote:
> > > On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
> > > <sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
> > >>
> > >>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
> > >>
> > >>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
> > >>>
> > >>blather
> > >>
> > >>>>on about what it _isn't_.
> > >>>
> > >>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
> > >>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
> > >>
> > >>What is a sports car?
> > >>
> > >>Blather away...
> > >
> > > Well...
> > >
> > > If it's not a family saloon
> > > If its not a luxury sedan
> > > If it's not a hot hatch
> > > If it's not a SUV
> > > If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
> > > engine....
> > >
> > > It's possibly .. a sports car.
> >
> > Ragtops are out?
>
> It seems a TR6 is not a sports car.
>
> Help us all.
>
>
07-14-2003, 10:12 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
alex, i did in fact see an elise on the street a couple of weeks ago.
"Alex Devlin" <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Dan Drake <ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote in
> news:b8g6hvgutscjds625qa5mn3irmj1p3tkh1@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
> > <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
> >
> >>Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
> >
> > 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
> > scales at 1,390lb.
>
> How about a Lotus Elise?
> http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
> Now coming to the USA according to the website.
>
> Alex Devlin
"Alex Devlin" <Alex@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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> Dan Drake <ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote in
> news:b8g6hvgutscjds625qa5mn3irmj1p3tkh1@4ax.com:
>
> > On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
> > <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
> >
> >>Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
> >
> > 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
> > scales at 1,390lb.
>
> How about a Lotus Elise?
> http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
> Now coming to the USA according to the website.
>
> Alex Devlin
07-14-2003, 10:16 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
I have - still driving an '82 Turbo, RWD and manual transmission, four
wheel ventilated disk brakes, large diameter sways bars, fuel injected -
all factory. Drove it today!
Turbos are like anything else - maintain them properly and they will
last, abuse them and they will fail quickly.
simpleton wrote:
> "You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
> to happen."
>
> huh? says who? been driving turbo cars since '91 and never experienced a
> turbo related failure.
> i've busted plenty of due to the power from the turbo but the turbos
> have never busted.
> you've never owned a turbo have you?
>
> "brianb" <bri1600bv@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>>"David & Caroline" <dcenos@Spam.Is.Evil.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
> news:<Q9qcnTo5LOA0U42iU-KYgg@comcast.com>...
>
>>>>It sounds like the Celica, WRX, and Altima are the best way to go?
>>>>
>>>>If you have any other opinions on what the best low-end sports coupe
>>>>is, let me know - this is all great advice.
>>>>
>>>If you want a sports coupe, then the Celica is the only coupe in the
>>>
> lot.
>
>>>And I would go with the Acura RSX-S over the celica
>>>
>>>Of the cars you listed, I would go with the WRX, hands down - crushes
>>>
> the
>
>>>others in all-season performance (i.e., conditions in addition to dry,
>>>smooth pavement)
>>>
>>>If you need to carry lots of people often, then the Altima would
>>>
> probably be
>
>>>a good choice.
>>>
>>You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
>>to happen.
>>
>>Celica is OK, but visibility is poor. You have to use mirrors and can
>>hardly see out of the back at all. The acura may have better
>>visibility so I'd give that a shot.
>>
>>If you're considering an Altima, then you probably wouldn't like the
>>cramped space, poor visibililty, and harsh ride of many sports cars.
>>Try the Nissan SE-R sport sedan, or just the plain Nissan SE. Maybe
>>the Civic EX, nice car and somewhat sporty. Miata's are great but
>>very small.
>>
>>I would guess you'll end up with an Altima.
>>
>
>
wheel ventilated disk brakes, large diameter sways bars, fuel injected -
all factory. Drove it today!
Turbos are like anything else - maintain them properly and they will
last, abuse them and they will fail quickly.
simpleton wrote:
> "You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
> to happen."
>
> huh? says who? been driving turbo cars since '91 and never experienced a
> turbo related failure.
> i've busted plenty of due to the power from the turbo but the turbos
> have never busted.
> you've never owned a turbo have you?
>
> "brianb" <bri1600bv@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:68a6629.0307131025.17e3ce7f@posting.google.co m...
>
>>"David & Caroline" <dcenos@Spam.Is.Evil.comcast.net> wrote in message
>>
> news:<Q9qcnTo5LOA0U42iU-KYgg@comcast.com>...
>
>>>>It sounds like the Celica, WRX, and Altima are the best way to go?
>>>>
>>>>If you have any other opinions on what the best low-end sports coupe
>>>>is, let me know - this is all great advice.
>>>>
>>>If you want a sports coupe, then the Celica is the only coupe in the
>>>
> lot.
>
>>>And I would go with the Acura RSX-S over the celica
>>>
>>>Of the cars you listed, I would go with the WRX, hands down - crushes
>>>
> the
>
>>>others in all-season performance (i.e., conditions in addition to dry,
>>>smooth pavement)
>>>
>>>If you need to carry lots of people often, then the Altima would
>>>
> probably be
>
>>>a good choice.
>>>
>>You definitely don't want a WRX. Anything turbo is a problem waiting
>>to happen.
>>
>>Celica is OK, but visibility is poor. You have to use mirrors and can
>>hardly see out of the back at all. The acura may have better
>>visibility so I'd give that a shot.
>>
>>If you're considering an Altima, then you probably wouldn't like the
>>cramped space, poor visibililty, and harsh ride of many sports cars.
>>Try the Nissan SE-R sport sedan, or just the plain Nissan SE. Maybe
>>the Civic EX, nice car and somewhat sporty. Miata's are great but
>>very small.
>>
>>I would guess you'll end up with an Altima.
>>
>
>
07-14-2003, 11:31 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx,altima)
Stephen Bigelow wrote:
> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3F13390D.4000500@XXXX.optonline.net...
>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
>>><sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>>>>
>>>>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>>>>
>>>>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>>>>>
>>>>blather
>>>>
>>>>>>on about what it _isn't_.
>>>>>
>>>>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>>>>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>>>>
>>>>What is a sports car?
>>>>
>>>>Blather away...
>>>
>>>Well...
>>>
>>>If it's not a family saloon
>>>If its not a luxury sedan
>>>If it's not a hot hatch
>>>If it's not a SUV
>>>If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
>>>engine....
>>>
>>>It's possibly .. a sports car.
>>
>>Ragtops are out?
>
> It seems a TR6 is not a sports car.
Actually, I never thought it was myself.
> "Liam Devlin" <LiamD@XXXX.optonline.net> wrote in message
> news:3F13390D.4000500@XXXX.optonline.net...
>
>>David wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:04:54 GMT, "Stephen Bigelow"
>>><sbigelowXLS@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>><BenDover@mailcity.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:3F11E4F6.6B9F848A@mailcity.com...
>>>>
>>>>>FWD 'Sportscar' is and oxymoron.
>>>>
>>>>>>If you're going to nitpick, you have to define sports car, not just
>>>>>
>>>>blather
>>>>
>>>>>>on about what it _isn't_.
>>>>>
>>>>Lol.....still can't do it I see.
>>>>You're still attempting to define it by what it _isn't_.
>>>>
>>>>What is a sports car?
>>>>
>>>>Blather away...
>>>
>>>Well...
>>>
>>>If it's not a family saloon
>>>If its not a luxury sedan
>>>If it's not a hot hatch
>>>If it's not a SUV
>>>If it's got 2 doors, a stiff suspension, a coupe design with a peppy
>>>engine....
>>>
>>>It's possibly .. a sports car.
>>
>>Ragtops are out?
>
> It seems a TR6 is not a sports car.
Actually, I never thought it was myself.
07-15-2003, 01:33 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx,altima)
Alex Devlin wrote:
> How about a Lotus Elise?
> http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
> Now coming to the USA according to the website.
Ick. Hope you have a big pocketbook for maintainence.
> How about a Lotus Elise?
> http://www.lotuscars.com/elise_announcement.html
> Now coming to the USA according to the website.
Ick. Hope you have a big pocketbook for maintainence.
07-15-2003, 06:26 PM
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Re: More Advice on a sports car purchase (celica, eclipse, rsx, ,wrx, altima)
On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:49:32 GMT, "Ron Loewy" <rloewy@transport.com>
wrote:
>
>"Dan Drake" <ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:b8g6hvgutscjds625qa5mn3irmj1p3tkh1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
>> <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
>>
>> >Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
>>
>> 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
>> scales at 1,390lb.
>
>You must have full weather equipment, a windshield, a spare tire and large
>wheels/tires for this. My Birkin is around 1,250lbs with 13'' panasports.
Not quite that much on it, but I never claimed it was a Superlight. I
have no idea what else I could possibly bolt onto it to take it up to
nearly 2.000lb, though.
--
Dan Drake
wrote:
>
>"Dan Drake" <ddrake@NOTTHIS.comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:b8g6hvgutscjds625qa5mn3irmj1p3tkh1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 20:11:56 +0100, Peter Hill
>> <peter@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Is lightweight, less than 1980lb/900Kg.
>>
>> >Look up Caterham/Westfield 7, Dax Rush and Kylama.
>>
>> 1,980lb??? Your Westfield may weigh that, but my Caterham tips the
>> scales at 1,390lb.
>
>You must have full weather equipment, a windshield, a spare tire and large
>wheels/tires for this. My Birkin is around 1,250lbs with 13'' panasports.
Not quite that much on it, but I never claimed it was a Superlight. I
have no idea what else I could possibly bolt onto it to take it up to
nearly 2.000lb, though.
--
Dan Drake