linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> On May 14, 10:57 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Charles wrote:
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>> Solenoids need a surge of current when first turned on to pull it in and
>>>> then considerably less to remain activated.
>>> I should also mention that if you have the solenoid connectors apart, measure
>>> the resistance of the solenoids to ground. They're usually less than a few
>>> dozen ohms. If they show several hundred ohms, they're bad. That increased
>>> resistance causes them to heat up more quickly. A hot solenoid core saturates
>>> magnetically and won't release leading to the flaring.
>> alternatively, solenoids that run hot cook their flyback diodes and in
>> turn fry the ecu. after a while anyway.
>
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse). After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
>
> May be he is right, may be he is wrong. I came back home. That's the
> end for now.
see how it goes.
>
> I found a forum post at http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=112967.
> This is exactly the same problem as I was/am facing:
>
> =========starts====================
> transmission flare when shifting
>
> Have a 96, 4.0 ohv, 114000 miles on it. Transmission flares when
> shifting from 2nd to 3rd under light load. This does not happen all
> the
> time, but enough to have me worried. Seems to happen only when trans
> is
> at operating temp, never when cold.
different type of transmission - has planetary gears and clutch bands.
adjusting the bands usually fixes that.
> Have read up on this problem, some
> say a bad gasket on the valve body or loose valve body bolts will
> cause
> this. I have a B&M Shift-Plus electronic shift kit that is supposed to
> tighten up the shift. Would it help to install it? I don't hot rod,
> just
> want max life out of the truck.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> ==========ends===================
>
> On May 14, 10:57 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Charles wrote:
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>> Solenoids need a surge of current when first turned on to pull it in and
>>>> then considerably less to remain activated.
>>> I should also mention that if you have the solenoid connectors apart, measure
>>> the resistance of the solenoids to ground. They're usually less than a few
>>> dozen ohms. If they show several hundred ohms, they're bad. That increased
>>> resistance causes them to heat up more quickly. A hot solenoid core saturates
>>> magnetically and won't release leading to the flaring.
>> alternatively, solenoids that run hot cook their flyback diodes and in
>> turn fry the ecu. after a while anyway.
>
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse). After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
>
> May be he is right, may be he is wrong. I came back home. That's the
> end for now.
see how it goes.
>
> I found a forum post at http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=112967.
> This is exactly the same problem as I was/am facing:
>
> =========starts====================
> transmission flare when shifting
>
> Have a 96, 4.0 ohv, 114000 miles on it. Transmission flares when
> shifting from 2nd to 3rd under light load. This does not happen all
> the
> time, but enough to have me worried. Seems to happen only when trans
> is
> at operating temp, never when cold.
different type of transmission - has planetary gears and clutch bands.
adjusting the bands usually fixes that.
> Have read up on this problem, some
> say a bad gasket on the valve body or loose valve body bolts will
> cause
> this. I have a B&M Shift-Plus electronic shift kit that is supposed to
> tighten up the shift. Would it help to install it? I don't hot rod,
> just
> want max life out of the truck.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> ==========ends===================
>
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> On May 14, 10:57 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Charles wrote:
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>> Solenoids need a surge of current when first turned on to pull it in and
>>>> then considerably less to remain activated.
>>> I should also mention that if you have the solenoid connectors apart, measure
>>> the resistance of the solenoids to ground. They're usually less than a few
>>> dozen ohms. If they show several hundred ohms, they're bad. That increased
>>> resistance causes them to heat up more quickly. A hot solenoid core saturates
>>> magnetically and won't release leading to the flaring.
>> alternatively, solenoids that run hot cook their flyback diodes and in
>> turn fry the ecu. after a while anyway.
>
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse). After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
>
> May be he is right, may be he is wrong. I came back home. That's the
> end for now.
see how it goes.
>
> I found a forum post at http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=112967.
> This is exactly the same problem as I was/am facing:
>
> =========starts====================
> transmission flare when shifting
>
> Have a 96, 4.0 ohv, 114000 miles on it. Transmission flares when
> shifting from 2nd to 3rd under light load. This does not happen all
> the
> time, but enough to have me worried. Seems to happen only when trans
> is
> at operating temp, never when cold.
different type of transmission - has planetary gears and clutch bands.
adjusting the bands usually fixes that.
> Have read up on this problem, some
> say a bad gasket on the valve body or loose valve body bolts will
> cause
> this. I have a B&M Shift-Plus electronic shift kit that is supposed to
> tighten up the shift. Would it help to install it? I don't hot rod,
> just
> want max life out of the truck.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> ==========ends===================
>
> On May 14, 10:57 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Charles wrote:
>>> Charles wrote:
>>>> Solenoids need a surge of current when first turned on to pull it in and
>>>> then considerably less to remain activated.
>>> I should also mention that if you have the solenoid connectors apart, measure
>>> the resistance of the solenoids to ground. They're usually less than a few
>>> dozen ohms. If they show several hundred ohms, they're bad. That increased
>>> resistance causes them to heat up more quickly. A hot solenoid core saturates
>>> magnetically and won't release leading to the flaring.
>> alternatively, solenoids that run hot cook their flyback diodes and in
>> turn fry the ecu. after a while anyway.
>
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse). After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
>
> May be he is right, may be he is wrong. I came back home. That's the
> end for now.
see how it goes.
>
> I found a forum post at http://www.fordforums.com/showthread.php?t=112967.
> This is exactly the same problem as I was/am facing:
>
> =========starts====================
> transmission flare when shifting
>
> Have a 96, 4.0 ohv, 114000 miles on it. Transmission flares when
> shifting from 2nd to 3rd under light load. This does not happen all
> the
> time, but enough to have me worried. Seems to happen only when trans
> is
> at operating temp, never when cold.
different type of transmission - has planetary gears and clutch bands.
adjusting the bands usually fixes that.
> Have read up on this problem, some
> say a bad gasket on the valve body or loose valve body bolts will
> cause
> this. I have a B&M Shift-Plus electronic shift kit that is supposed to
> tighten up the shift. Would it help to install it? I don't hot rod,
> just
> want max life out of the truck.
> Thanks,
> Jack
> ==========ends===================
>
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse).
Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
be exhibited when the system is cold.
By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
ohmmeter.
--
Chuck
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse).
Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
be exhibited when the system is cold.
By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
ohmmeter.
--
Chuck
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse).
Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
be exhibited when the system is cold.
By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
ohmmeter.
--
Chuck
> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> drive and also at reverse).
Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> pay too much attention while driving.
If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
be exhibited when the system is cold.
By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
ohmmeter.
--
Chuck
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
> ExtremeValue wrote:
> > I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> > and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> > drive and also at reverse).
>
> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>
It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
pressing the gas "unusually" low.
> > After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> > me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> > pay too much attention while driving.
>
> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
> be exhibited when the system is cold.
It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
> ohmmeter.
I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
>
> --
> Chuck
> ExtremeValue wrote:
> > I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> > and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> > drive and also at reverse).
>
> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>
It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
pressing the gas "unusually" low.
> > After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> > me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> > pay too much attention while driving.
>
> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
> be exhibited when the system is cold.
It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
> ohmmeter.
I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
>
> --
> Chuck
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
> ExtremeValue wrote:
> > I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> > and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> > drive and also at reverse).
>
> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>
It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
pressing the gas "unusually" low.
> > After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> > me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> > pay too much attention while driving.
>
> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
> be exhibited when the system is cold.
It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
> ohmmeter.
I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
>
> --
> Chuck
> ExtremeValue wrote:
> > I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
> > and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
> > drive and also at reverse).
>
> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>
It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
pressing the gas "unusually" low.
> > After that, he said "if you wanna believe
> > me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
> > pay too much attention while driving.
>
> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
> be exhibited when the system is cold.
It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
> ohmmeter.
I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
>
> --
> Chuck
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
>> ExtremeValue wrote:
>>> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
>>> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
>>> drive and also at reverse).
>> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>>
>
> It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
> pressing the gas "unusually" low.
>
>
>>> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
>>> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
>>> pay too much attention while driving.
>> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
>> be exhibited when the system is cold.
>
> It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
>
>> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
>> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
>> ohmmeter.
>
> I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
did you get the motor maintained so it's operating as well as it can?
>
>
>> --
>> Chuck
>
>
> On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
>> ExtremeValue wrote:
>>> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
>>> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
>>> drive and also at reverse).
>> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>>
>
> It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
> pressing the gas "unusually" low.
>
>
>>> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
>>> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
>>> pay too much attention while driving.
>> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
>> be exhibited when the system is cold.
>
> It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
>
>> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
>> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
>> ohmmeter.
>
> I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
did you get the motor maintained so it's operating as well as it can?
>
>
>> --
>> Chuck
>
>
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Re: linear shift solenoid goes bad too often
ExtremeValue wrote:
> On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
>> ExtremeValue wrote:
>>> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
>>> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
>>> drive and also at reverse).
>> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>>
>
> It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
> pressing the gas "unusually" low.
>
>
>>> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
>>> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
>>> pay too much attention while driving.
>> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
>> be exhibited when the system is cold.
>
> It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
>
>> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
>> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
>> ohmmeter.
>
> I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
did you get the motor maintained so it's operating as well as it can?
>
>
>> --
>> Chuck
>
>
> On May 16, 9:49 pm, "Charles" <electrochuckREM...@XXXatt.net> wrote:
>> ExtremeValue wrote:
>>> I took it to my mechanic and he took it for a test drive, opened hood
>>> and inspected something while somebody started the engine (put it in
>>> drive and also at reverse).
>> Did he experience the flare problem or did it not appear for him?
>>
>
> It seems that he did not feel the flare problem. It only occurs when
> pressing the gas "unusually" low.
>
>
>>> After that, he said "if you wanna believe
>>> me, your transmission and everything is fine". He also asked me not to
>>> pay too much attention while driving.
>> If there really is a problem, it will get worse. Perhaps the problem will even
>> be exhibited when the system is cold.
>
> It does not show when cold. Cold transmission shifts good.
>
>
>> By the way, you can have someone check the resistance of the solenoids even when
>> the transmission is cold. Bad ones will still show a very high reading on an
>> ohmmeter.
>
> I've adjusted my foot and now the problem seems to be disappearing.
did you get the motor maintained so it's operating as well as it can?
>
>
>> --
>> Chuck
>
>
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