In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
"Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
> becomes disconnected.
>
> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
> brake pedal.

Close, but no cigar.

There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.

The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

 

In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
"Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:

> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
> becomes disconnected.
>
> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
> brake pedal.

Close, but no cigar.

There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.

The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
> "Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
>> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
>> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
>> becomes disconnected.
>>
>> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
>> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
>> brake pedal.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.
>
> The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
> acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
> juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
> forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
> to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
> before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
> driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
> car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
> the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

Thanks for the info. I just responded to this guy in the other group with
almost the same explanation that Paul gave. I was not aware of the Audi
"issue"...

I like learning new things... ;-)

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
> "Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
>> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
>> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
>> becomes disconnected.
>>
>> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
>> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
>> brake pedal.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.
>
> The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
> acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
> juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
> forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
> to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
> before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
> driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
> car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
> the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

Thanks for the info. I just responded to this guy in the other group with
almost the same explanation that Paul gave. I was not aware of the Audi
"issue"...

I like learning new things... ;-)

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
> "Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
>> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
>> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
>> becomes disconnected.
>>
>> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
>> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
>> brake pedal.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.
>
> The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
> acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
> juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
> forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
> to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
> before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
> driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
> car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
> the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

Thanks for the info. I just responded to this guy in the other group with
almost the same explanation that Paul gave. I was not aware of the Audi
"issue"...

I like learning new things... ;-)

 

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:52:04 -0500, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> In article <1166204121.139227.324170@16g2000cwy.googlegroups. com>,
> "Paul" <pstuart03@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The brake switch underneath the brake pedal is probably disconnected or
>> broken. Your foot may have kicked the switch behind the brake pedal by
>> accident, and over time, the switch becomes loose and eventually
>> becomes disconnected.
>>
>> The shifter locks as a precaution, because if the brake switch becomes
>> disconnected, NONE of your brake lights will work when you step on the
>> brake pedal.
>
> Close, but no cigar.
>
> There are TWO switches: brake lights, and shift interlock.
>
> The shift interlock came about as a result of the Audi "unintended
> acceleration" debacle whereby stupid Americans (who can vote! and be on
> juries!) were buying into this idea that cars can just suddenly LEAP
> forward without the driver doing anything. One way the automakers try
> to work around this is to force the driver to have his foot on the brake
> before moving the transmission lever out of park. This ensures that the
> driver is engaged in the process, and is doing so in a way such that the
> car CANNOT move, period. (No car can overcome its brakes like that, so
> the chances of the car "running away" are about zero.)

Thanks for the info. I just responded to this guy in the other group with
almost the same explanation that Paul gave. I was not aware of the Audi
"issue"...

I like learning new things... ;-)

 

Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
the owner's manual.

 

Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
the owner's manual.

 

Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
the owner's manual.

 

Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
the owner's manual.

 

Robert wrote:
> Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
> to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
> button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
> can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
> the owner's manual.

On my accord it's to the right of the shifter on the console, and is
labeled. I've never had to use it yet, or read the instructions, but
from the looks of it, you stick a key end, small screwdriver, etc
into that slot, and it releases the shifter.
MK

 

Robert wrote:
> Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
> to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
> button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
> can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
> the owner's manual.

On my accord it's to the right of the shifter on the console, and is
labeled. I've never had to use it yet, or read the instructions, but
from the looks of it, you stick a key end, small screwdriver, etc
into that slot, and it releases the shifter.
MK

 

Robert wrote:
> Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
> to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
> button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
> can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
> the owner's manual.

On my accord it's to the right of the shifter on the console, and is
labeled. I've never had to use it yet, or read the instructions, but
from the looks of it, you stick a key end, small screwdriver, etc
into that slot, and it releases the shifter.
MK

 

Robert wrote:
> Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
> to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
> button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
> can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
> the owner's manual.

On my accord it's to the right of the shifter on the console, and is
labeled. I've never had to use it yet, or read the instructions, but
from the looks of it, you stick a key end, small screwdriver, etc
into that slot, and it releases the shifter.
MK

 

On 16 Dec 2006 08:29:01 -0800, "Robert" <kraft.fhs@gmail.com> wrote:

>Not sure where the override button is exactly, but in order to drive it
>to a shop or something you should look for a "shiftlock override"
>button. On my Volvo it's right near the shifter, but on my Pilot I
>can't remember (the wife has it at the moment). It should mention it in
>the owner's manual.

Make, Model, Year might help.