dgk wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:44:22 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <wM6Qg.19582$KA6.4126@clgrps12>,
>> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
>>
>>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
>>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
>>>> one. That's just too much.
>>> With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
>>> test driven. Not a big deal.
>> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.
>>
>> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
>>
>> That's it.
>>
>> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
>> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).
>
> I was wondering about that. It was clearly stated as "used" and I was
> a bit nervous about that. Why would someone return a vehicle after 100
> miles? Maybe they discovered that there isn't a bike rack that will
> fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat
trailers, but still useful capacities. they have to change gears on
grades, but they still manage it ok. look at horse power per pound and
compare to a big rig.

>
> I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
>
>

 

jim beam wrote:
> dgk wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:44:22 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> > <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <wM6Qg.19582$KA6.4126@clgrps12>,
> >> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
> >>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> >>>> one. That's just too much.
> >>> With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
> >>> test driven. Not a big deal.
> >> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.
> >>
> >> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
> >>
> >> That's it.
> >>
> >> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> >> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).
> >
> > I was wondering about that. It was clearly stated as "used" and I was
> > a bit nervous about that. Why would someone return a vehicle after 100
> > miles? Maybe they discovered that there isn't a bike rack that will
> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!
>
> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat
> trailers, but still useful capacities. they have to change gears on
> grades, but they still manage it ok. look at horse power per pound and
> compare to a big rig.
>
> >
> > I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> > car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
> >
> >

Torque is also the bigger factor for towing. It's what gives whatever
you're towing the intitial push, then HP keeps it moving along.

 

jim beam wrote:
> dgk wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:44:22 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> > <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <wM6Qg.19582$KA6.4126@clgrps12>,
> >> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
> >>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> >>>> one. That's just too much.
> >>> With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
> >>> test driven. Not a big deal.
> >> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.
> >>
> >> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
> >>
> >> That's it.
> >>
> >> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> >> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).
> >
> > I was wondering about that. It was clearly stated as "used" and I was
> > a bit nervous about that. Why would someone return a vehicle after 100
> > miles? Maybe they discovered that there isn't a bike rack that will
> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!
>
> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat
> trailers, but still useful capacities. they have to change gears on
> grades, but they still manage it ok. look at horse power per pound and
> compare to a big rig.
>
> >
> > I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> > car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
> >
> >

Torque is also the bigger factor for towing. It's what gives whatever
you're towing the intitial push, then HP keeps it moving along.

 

jim beam wrote:
> dgk wrote:
> > On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 05:44:22 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> > <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <wM6Qg.19582$KA6.4126@clgrps12>,
> >> "Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I saw one advertised by a fairly local dealer (20 miles away), orange,
> >>>> used with 100 miles, for more than I was supposed to pay for a new
> >>>> one. That's just too much.
> >>> With 100 miles on it, it is still a new vehicle. It's obviously been
> >>> test driven. Not a big deal.
> >> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.
> >>
> >> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
> >>
> >> That's it.
> >>
> >> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> >> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).
> >
> > I was wondering about that. It was clearly stated as "used" and I was
> > a bit nervous about that. Why would someone return a vehicle after 100
> > miles? Maybe they discovered that there isn't a bike rack that will
> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!
>
> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat
> trailers, but still useful capacities. they have to change gears on
> grades, but they still manage it ok. look at horse power per pound and
> compare to a big rig.
>
> >
> > I also didn't want to end up in a contractual situation of buying a
> > car while under contract with another dealer so I just let it go by.
> >
> >

Torque is also the bigger factor for towing. It's what gives whatever
you're towing the intitial push, then HP keeps it moving along.

 

jim beam wrote:

> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

It's most likely for a bike rack. Kudos to Honda.

> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat

Well, you're forgetting that in Europe 99% of the drivers don't mind
shifting the
gears themselves. I don't see why would anyone want a 109hp car with an
automatic.
CVT is not offered on Fit or is it?

 

jim beam wrote:

> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

It's most likely for a bike rack. Kudos to Honda.

> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat

Well, you're forgetting that in Europe 99% of the drivers don't mind
shifting the
gears themselves. I don't see why would anyone want a 109hp car with an
automatic.
CVT is not offered on Fit or is it?

 

jim beam wrote:

> > fit it? I've been looking and I can't find one without installing a
> > trailer hitch. Ha, a trailer hitch on a vehicle with 107 hp!

It's most likely for a bike rack. Kudos to Honda.

> have you ever been to europe? over there, cars with a good deal less
> power than that tow trailers all the time - maybe not 5 ton boat

Well, you're forgetting that in Europe 99% of the drivers don't mind
shifting the
gears themselves. I don't see why would anyone want a 109hp car with an
automatic.
CVT is not offered on Fit or is it?

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-71C760.05442220092006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>
> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.

That's true.

> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.

Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle. I took the term
'used' to be a phrase the OP used to describe the vehicle with 100 miles on
its clock.

> That's it.
>
> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).

Also possible.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-71C760.05442220092006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>
> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.

That's true.

> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.

Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle. I took the term
'used' to be a phrase the OP used to describe the vehicle with 100 miles on
its clock.

> That's it.
>
> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).

Also possible.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-71C760.05442220092006@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
>
> Wait a minute here. "New" and "used" are legal terms.

That's true.

> If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.

Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle. I took the term
'used' to be a phrase the OP used to describe the vehicle with 100 miles on
its clock.

> That's it.
>
> Miles don't matter. You can have a 100 mile used car, and you can have a
> 5000 mile new car (no doubt driven by the dealership owner's daughter).

Also possible.

 

In article <P%hQg.33876$E67.9931@clgrps13>,
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> > If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
>
> Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
> miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle.

If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

 

In article <P%hQg.33876$E67.9931@clgrps13>,
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> > If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
>
> Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
> miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle.

If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

 

In article <P%hQg.33876$E67.9931@clgrps13>,
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote:

> > If it's never been titled, it's new. If it's been titled, it's used.
>
> Also true. I just don't consider that a vehicle on the lot with 100
> miles on it to be a returned previously purchased vehicle.

If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-0DE27F.17091920092006@nntp3.usenetserver.com...
>
> If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
> and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

That's true, too.

 

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-0DE27F.17091920092006@nntp3.usenetserver.com...
>
> If a salesman tells me "used," that connotates something very specific
> and factors greatly in the price I'm willing to pay.

That's true, too.