On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam

Well, here are some suggestions:

1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
connector.
2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
device installed.
3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
will verify
6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

 

On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam

Well, here are some suggestions:

1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
connector.
2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
device installed.
3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
will verify
6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
service manager and tell us what they think about your car.

Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!

 

I didn't know Mercedes had bought MINI off BMW...

DAS

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>>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
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I didn't know Mercedes had bought MINI off BMW...

DAS

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[...]
>>
>>Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
>>http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
[...]

 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99D34F4A5D14Ategger@207.14.116.130...
> "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:
>
>>
>> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.
>>
>>
>> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
>> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
>> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I didn't write that comment. DougS did.
>
> And I'm not from the USA.
>
> --
> Tegger


You're right, sorry about that.

Cam

 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns99D34F4A5D14Ategger@207.14.116.130...
> "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in news:ffmutu$fgk$1@aioe.org:
>
>>
>> "DougS" <wdsims63@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
>>>
>>> Perhaps poor engrish grammar make your book looks like a scam.
>>
>>
>> Yup berry phunny Tigger, in any cases thanks for your input, you would
>> think I'm stupid enough to write the book on my own? hummm.. it's a
>> typical American's attitude, I guess.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> I didn't write that comment. DougS did.
>
> And I'm not from the USA.
>
> --
> Tegger


You're right, sorry about that.

Cam

 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam
>
> Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> connector.
> 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> device installed.
> 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> will verify
> 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>


Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
that tells you the MPG which is nice.

 

"EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
> On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
>> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>>
>> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
>> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
>> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
>> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>>
>> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
>> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
>> someone
>> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>>
>> Cam
>
> Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> connector.
> 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> device installed.
> 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> will verify
> 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>


Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
that tells you the MPG which is nice.

 

On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>
> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
> >> someone
> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> >> Cam
>
> > Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> > connector.
> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> > device installed.
> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> > will verify
> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the
FAQ's,
1. Will it void my car's warranty?
2. Is this damage my vehicle?
3. Will my car pass inspection?

 

On Oct 24, 2:41 pm, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1193240183.398113.325080@z24g2000prh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 4:23 am, "Cam" <Cam...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> "EdV" <systme...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googleg roups.com...
>
> >> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> >> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>
> >> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> >> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> >> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> >> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> >> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> >> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from
> >> someone
> >> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> >> Cam
>
> > Well, here are some suggestions:
>
> > 1. There are mpg measuring instruments that you plug into a cars ODB
> > connector.
> > 2. Can you hook up your device in some standalone electric generator?
> > Pour half a gallon, or lower, of gas and run the engine and measure
> > the time before it dies out. Compare it with the engine having no
> > device installed.
> > 3. Briefly explain the theory of your product.
> > 4. Get a DMV inspection before and after, and show the results
> > 5. The security seal on the tank is a great idea. Have some reputable
> > third party involvement like AAA. AAA WA will seal the tank and AAA CA
> > will verify
> > 6. Team up with bus companies where the driver / passenger will verify
> > the seal and mileage of your car from start to finish.
> > 7. Get a service from Infiniti or Mercedes Benz and talk to the
> > service manager and tell us what they think about your car.
>
> > Hope you like these suggestions and good luck!
>
> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

DMV and Manufacturer's comment is important. These are always in the
FAQ's,
1. Will it void my car's warranty?
2. Is this damage my vehicle?
3. Will my car pass inspection?

 

Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

[to "Tegger"]

>> And I'm not from the USA.

> You're right, sorry about that.


What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

 

Cam <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

[to "Tegger"]

>> And I'm not from the USA.

> You're right, sorry about that.


What you _should_ be apologizing for is being chauvinistic
about Americans, not mistaking somebody for one.



Geoff

--
"When his life was ruined, his family killed, his farm destroyed,
Job knelt down on the ground and yelled up to the heavens, 'Why,
God? Why me?' and the thundering voice of God answered, 'There's
just something about you that pisses me off.'" -- Stephen King

 

I live in S.W. Washington. I'd be willing to work with you.


"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ffitta$h8a$1@aioe.org...
> On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will
let
> you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My
question
> to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> scam.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Cam
> 20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> efficiency at the same time?
>
>
> Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway
driving
>

 

I live in S.W. Washington. I'd be willing to work with you.


"Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote in message news:ffitta$h8a$1@aioe.org...
> On city/highway driving, my Infiniti G20T now reached 65mpg - 73mpg. No
> battery required, and no stingy driving required. That's right, I will
let
> you put my car to test (if you belong to a media company), by driving from
> WA State to CA with 1 tank of fuel, 14-15 gallons. My Mercedes E320 also
> reached 51mpg mark, I could improve it a little bit better if I have the
> time. I'm thinking to write a book on how to increase the MPG, My
question
> to you is, would you think people will buy my book at $99 The problem is,
> not every one has the same skill in terms of car mechanic and computer
> program, the lack of their understanding could make my book looks like a
> scam.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Cam
> 20 years ElectroMechanic engineer.
> Why buy expensive hybrid when you can have luxury, safety, force and
> efficiency at the same time?
>
>
> Here is Info about Mercedes MINI Range,
> http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=194886
> Remember, 72.4 miles per imperial gallon translates to 60.28 miles per US
> gallon- and this is for the average figure of combined city/highway
driving
>

 

In article <ffmvdv$gph$1@aioe.org>, "Cam" <Cams18@nospam.com> wrote:

> "EdV" <systmengr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1193187638.374142.303720@q3g2000prf.googlegro ups.com...
> > Use the power of the internet. First, create a short ad in youtube to
> > show off your car. After that, people can comment if its a scam or not.
>
>
> Thanks Ed, I thought about that idea too but how can you prove to people
> that your video is not a scam? It can be manipulated like photos. You
> can't video all the way to 800-900 miles of driving, you have to stop and
> start the video, this is where people will have doubt.
>
> I thought about having someone put a security tape on my gas cap to
> guarantee that I will not refuel. This security tape must come from someone
> I do not know. What do you think about this idea?
>
> Cam
First you need to submit your vehicle to a well respected test agency,
to obtain an independent realistic report from their standard test
circuit.
Consumer Reports?

> Thanks for your suggestion, I like your idea for the most part, except that
> this theory isn't just a single device, it is the integration of new
> technology and the improvement of the old technology. It won't be easy to
> undo the work, because it took me 3 days to integrate and test them
> together, so it will take equal time to undo and redo to use your method of
> measurement. I used the Fuel meter and known distance to measure the
> performance along with my calculator. It's a simple math any one can
> understand, because Distance, MPG and hours to drive are all related, plus
> you know your Tank capacity. On the Mercedes, there is a built-in Computer
> that tells you the MPG which is nice.

Your last comments above have created doubt in my mind.
Sounds a bit like the French air car, which hasn't burned up the roads.